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[nachi019]

Question guys, im doing DD non crit based GX! And im @ Base 123 leveling with RC for now but when i reach 150 will start Mvp runs with DDnonCrit. 

Stat:
Str: 90

Agi: 100

Vit: 40

Int: 1
Dex: 70
Luk: 43

I watched youtube video of DD GX and it looks great, but the video is literally outdated like uploaded 3-4 years ago! The guy on the video only has 70 Dex and can hit almost all Mvp.

My question now is, is it still applicable to the renewal changes on mvp, flee, hit etc.. i hope someone can enlighten this, before i regret this DD path!

[Havenn]

Only issue with non-crit DD is that any MVP that Agi UP's you have to kill before they use it, or you can never hit them, even with 250 dex for most. There are also other MVPs that you would never hit anyway, like timeholder, with 770 flee.

 

DD-DA is nice and fun, I use my for Geffen Magic Tournament and a little ET, but not much more. I focus mainly on DD Crit since it never misses. It's fun to have both =P

[Ashuckel]

Jordy, you are misreading divine-pride.

770 flee is what you need to dodge that.
The hit rate required for him is actually pretty easy to achieve.

The mvps with the highest flee rate are Gertie,Cecil,Alpochio, etc

[nachi019]

Someone have mentioned to me this Agi-Up buff of MVP where they get boost in flee (Quit skeptical about this one), so its not wise to be full DD DA then! As i can predict it will take me long to do the full Build of DD Crit!

[fuyukikun]

and nightmare rideword

[Richkr]

Someone have mentioned to me this Agi-Up buff of MVP where they get boost in flee (Quit skeptical about this one), so its not wise to be full DD DA then! As i can predict it will take me long to do the full Build of DD Crit!

 

Unless you kill before they cast Agi-up, go for crit dd. Some of them have High Flee (mostly high end) even without Agi-up and that means you will miss 99.99% of the time.

[Necrohealiac]

the formula for mvp agi up is floating around the forums somewhere but basically not even a max dex ranger would be able to hit many of the mvps that agis up. crit or go home.

[Ashuckel]

DD DA can easily switch to katar to hit agi up mvps. Pls dont stop saying that everything now rellies at DDCrit.

Even a DD DA tho can reach 600+ hit rate w/o phreeoni or anything like this. Its doable and good, just be aware of your restrictions

[nachi019]

Thanks for your insights guys! Well im gonna sort this thing out! And probably make this sin Katar Crit and if got enough funds will do that DD Crit! But atm i enjoy farmin Boys Pure Heart! with this GX. XD

[Necrohealiac]

DD DA can easily switch to katar to hit agi up mvps. Pls dont stop saying that everything now rellies at DDCrit.

Even a DD DA tho can reach 600+ hit rate w/o phreeoni or anything like this. Its doable and good, just be aware of your restrictions

i didn't say u gotta go dd crit. just said you gotta go crit in those situations ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Ashuckel]

It wasnt for you necro :v

[29140916192629647]

Katar crit MVP isnt that bad too..  

[hotel]

It's not as convenient, but you can also always wait out the agi up before attacking the mvp again

[Richkr]

Katar crit isn't bad. With the current gears we have available, dd crit is just better than any other build if your goal is mvping. Not that everything now is centered in dd crit. Out of my 4 gx's, dd da/katar hybrid is still my favorite. Btw Dd crit off hand can still miss even at 100% crit rate.

[Akupuff]

DD DA/Katar Hybrid is the best one for absolute solo'ing, having optimal damage for RC, DA and Crit, as well as the wide coverage that these builds offer. For ET, the Hybrid is awesome.

 

100 AGI, 90 STR, 90 VIT, 90 LUK, 75 DEX is what I had for 150 and it worked wonderfully.

 

 

[Ashuckel]

If you can hit the mvp, and have access to Kiel mid, RC dps pair with a fully mvp decked DD Crit(non LK tho)

[nachi019]

Yes, im still on my DD DA/RC GX, but soon i might make another GX for DDCrit, if! got the money or some job class will steal my attention. Im eyeing on Rune Knight Crit tho... Pretty OP in Pvp with his parry!

Your suggestion guys is helpful, im main'n still my GX. XD
 

[dickies619]

DD DA/Katar Hybrid is the best one for absolute solo'ing, having optimal damage for RC, DA and Crit, as well as the wide coverage that these builds offer. For ET, the Hybrid is awesome.

 

100 AGI, 90 STR, 90 VIT, 90 LUK, 75 DEX is what I had for 150 and it worked wonderfully.

 

Hi! We almost have the same build but im confuse what skill to get . Can you give sample skill chart. Now im using RC for leveling.

[Ashuckel]

God why

[fuyukikun]

wear ROR or punk card to autocast quagmire to cancel agi up

[CadburyChocolate]

wear ROR or punk card to autocast quagmire to cancel agi up

Viable for agi UP MVPs?

[LiteAdi]

Mvp i can debuff u, u cant debuff me

[YangeWenli]

mvps give no fks(especially for mvp card =.=)​​

Edited by YangeWenli, 11 December 2015 - 12:14 AM.

[fuyukikun]

some said it works for mistress. the quagmire will cancel her agi up.
https://forums.warpp...vps-and-agi-up/
this thread said quagmire will half their flee, halving agi upped MVP flee is a nice deal

Edited by fuyukikun, 11 December 2015 - 12:25 AM.

[hotel]

quag reduces agi, not flee. at most (-50 agi) it'll reduce their flee by 100.