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#1 Kasumidoll

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 03:39 PM

Right now my 'lock is 111 / 31 with str 1, agi 1, vit 26, int 120, dex 70, luk 35. I'd really like to get her to max level, but I'm not sure what I need to round out my gear and what to level on.

 

Gears: +9 CoD (Keyron), +4 Orlean's Gown (Agav), +6 SoD (no card), +7 Nidhoggur (Raydric), Variants, Crimson Orb (Scaraba, +2 Int, +2 Dex, +200 hp), and a Bradium Earring. Shadow gear is +4 Spellflow set (all 3), +5 Magical Weapon, +4 Magical Earring.

 

Skill Build: reading spellbook, comet 5, crimson rock 5, freezing spell 5, chain lightning 4, jack frost 1

 

Please don't suggest MvP cards, god gears, or stuff that costs hundreds of millions of zeni per piece, as I can't afford those.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 03:54 PM

1.- Well as you said you cant afford much expensive gear, i will suggest a +9 HBP then, overall will give you a lot of benefits plus will give you more matk. +9FAWS will be optimal but, you can buy them later.

 

2.- If you are using spellflow set then drop the orleans gown because you dont need it, use an armor that wont increase your casting time, valk armor or any other thing that increase survivality will be nice.

 

3.- As you are having the magical set, have it complete, i will say upgrade it, but at least with the set you will have an extra pump to your MATK nothing impressive tho.

 

4.- As you have 120 INT, get a cheap temporal int with spell 5 and a crap enchant, that will be almost +80 matk and thats a lot, you can find some cheap ones for 20-30m i use to have some with speed of light, when they activate the spamabiliy of skills like SE is impressive :0.

 

5.- 500 valorous or bravery badges will give you acces to medal of honor, both are 5% matk enhance, is a good deal actually, i have it when i start playing, if you do enough TIs you maybe could farm those EMB to get those, otherwise Bradium earring for the cheapest option.

 

6.- Comet will drain a lot of your SP so i expect you have a lot of sp suplies xDD when you get to 120 get a thanatos staff, will give you a little relief on terms of SP usage.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 04:12 PM

Thanks for the fast feedback. I do have both FAW and HBP but they are both +0. I have been searching for the magical pendant to complete the set but no one is vending one lately. I was typically using ebone armor with Loli Ruri but I'm sure there is something better.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:07 PM

Personally in terms of armor, I would suggest a Diabolus Robe along with a diabolus Ring, this is because of the 10% aftercast delay reduction which is extremely useful early on since some of your wizard skills are still needed until late 130-140's when you pretty much drop them completely for your warlock skills.

 

I also do suggest if you dont mind carding the SoD, slot it with a Red Aruma card, this is because they way monsters calculate status effects like stone curse, freezing (which is effected by stats accordingly in a kRO forum I scoured a year back) and other such status effects are all calculated pre-renewal, meaning Luk is the overall stat used to resist most effects, effectively using Red Aruma you can curse the mobs your hitting, slowing them down and decreasing damage by 25% as a bonus to dropping the mobs Luk to 0 which will easily allow you to use your cripple skills such as Frosty Misty and Sienna Execrete if you choose to pick them up.

 

Personally I dont know why people say you dont need the extra range with Jack Frost and that Frost Nova is 9000 times better in comparison, but I have not seen any problem using Jack Frost at its max level, at all, but each to their own.

 


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:34 PM

FM+JF still works so, i dont know, i like my JF maxed out.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:38 PM

FM+JF still works so, i dont know, i like my JF maxed out.

 

You see? ^ Coming from an expert player in the field.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:38 PM

TSOD also reduces cast delay
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Posted 02 May 2016 - 06:55 PM

So Diabolus Robe & Ring, Red Eruma card (I was about to put a necromancer card in), and lots of safe certs to try to +9 HBP or FAW... I might be able to do that.

 

** I'm assuming Scaraba card in the ring, and what for the robe? Agav?


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 08:02 PM

You see? ^ Coming from an expert player in the field.

 

LMAO, i like a lot of skills that people basically ditch (drainlife, frost misty, jackfrost).


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 11:22 PM

Better to gather more opinions before attempting anything. Ive been told countless times my opinions are useless, and so noob i should go back to africa because im probably also a noob player as well.
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Posted 03 May 2016 - 03:17 AM

Depends on what you want, more dmg / more defense / faster killing.

 

 


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 04:48 AM

I want to get to 175/60 and start hunting rare items so I can kit out my other characters and do the same with them =D


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 04:55 AM

My opinion is simply helping to make the most of what this class has to offer, which is damage and crippling skills.
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Posted 03 May 2016 - 06:46 AM

TSOD also reduces cast delay

 

It also reduces the damage... a lot...  :p_swt:

 

But it's useful in many situations, nonetheless. A Skull Cap is a MUST with TSoD.


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 08:09 AM

+9 TSOD/Skull cap is crap.  You're going to spend twice the time trying to kill mobs, then using a +9 2-handed staff.

As a warlock, your job is to kill the mobs as fast as possible in the least amount of time without getting hit.  If you're stacking reduction gears for leveling, you're doing it wrong

 

Your stats:

120 INT/ 120 DEX

Then VIT

Lastly AGI

 

1. Temporal Dex boots > INT boots (preferably +9 Superior)

 

Mobbing require movement and cast speed.  When you have 15 mobs after you, the -0.5 fixed cast time works wonders for Frosty misty, jack frost, and chain lightning.  The INT boots will just slow you down.  Since you're not using FAW Spell 18,  your cast will be like molasses. 

 

2. 120 INT/120 DEX will make your character so much more versatile.  If you wish for damage, then you can equip the temp INT.  Leveling? use the DEX boots.  

 

3.  Replace Crimson Orb. Wear Orleans glove [scaraba] or bradium earring[scaraba] as suggested earlier.

 

Only wear it if you're using the full set or you have MAX enchants on it which u dont.  Also, forget the Medal of Honor and save those badges for KVM staff or Glorious Suit for the insane HP increase. 

 

4.  Drain Life is absolute Sh*t.  If you're too cheap to use pots or a heal clip, then warlock isn't for you.

 

5.  Skip the HBP.

 

Save your zeny for +9 FAW Spell 18 or 19.  Selling HBP's are a bi*ch because honestly FAWs are superior above every other garment.

 

6. Trash the Spell flow card set

 

Get an Int Glove [Phen] or even a Phen Clip.  Learn to phen switch.

 

7.  Trash the Crown of Deceit.  

 

Get +9 Ordinary magician hat caster [KK].  

 

If there is 1 last advice I can give you, MDEF is your worst enemy.  As you progress, MDEF will start becoming a problem. Some mobs won't even Freeze (JF) because their MDEF is so high.   

 

This is the bare minimum for Warlocks.  You can't afford!?!?   Make a Genetic to fund yourself or buy kafra shop. 

 

 


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 08:16 AM

Between a +12 SoD and +12 TSOD+Skull Cap, there's only a 48 matk and card slot difference '-'
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Posted 03 May 2016 - 08:32 AM

6. Trash the Spell flow card set

 

Get an Int Glove [Phen] or even a Phen Clip.  Learn to phen switch.

 

Yeah, that's right. Elviras are for dummies, pros switch Phen. :p_devil:

 

I used it a lot before renewal kicked in, though. Now it's an unaffordable tradoff.


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 09:19 AM


 

1. Temporal Dex boots > INT boots (preferably +9 Superior)

 

Mobbing require movement and cast speed.  When you have 15 mobs after you, the -0.5 fixed cast time works wonders for Frosty misty, jack frost, and chain lightning.  The INT boots will just slow you down.  Since you're not using FAW Spell 18,  your cast will be like molasses. 

 

2. 120 INT/120 DEX will make your character so much more versatile.  If you wish for damage, then you can equip the temp INT.  Leveling? use the DEX boots.  

 

3.  Replace Crimson Orb. Wear Orleans glove [scaraba] or bradium earring[scaraba] as suggested earlier.

 

Only wear it if you're using the full set or you have MAX enchants on it which u dont.  Also, forget the Medal of Honor and save those badges for KVM staff or Glorious Suit for the insane HP increase. 

 

4.  Drain Life is absolute Sh*t.  If you're too cheap to use pots or a heal clip, then warlock isn't for you.

 

5.  Skip the HBP.

 

Save your zeny for +9 FAW Spell 18 or 19.  Selling HBP's are a bi*ch because honestly FAWs are superior above every other garment.

 

6. Trash the Spell flow card set

 

Get an Int Glove [Phen] or even a Phen Clip.  Learn to phen switch.

 

7.  Trash the Crown of Deceit.  

 

Get +9 Ordinary magician hat caster [KK].  

 

If there is 1 last advice I can give you, MDEF is your worst enemy.  As you progress, MDEF will start becoming a problem. Some mobs won't even Freeze (JF) because their MDEF is so high.   

 

This is the bare minimum for Warlocks.  You can't afford!?!?   Make a Genetic to fund yourself or buy kafra shop. 

More dex makes sense. I have a clean FAW I can try to upgrade. By spell flow card set I assume you mean the shadow gear? Should I get caster or something instead? The other hat with KK is out of my budget for now. I've managed to get the diabolus robe/ring, HBP, temporal int boots, and everything else by selling HD eluniums as is. If I can sell my witch's pumpkin hat maybe I can try to get the rest of this.

 

Oh yeah I do have a bradium earring (phen) and an empty bradium earring I can put a scaraba in if that will work.
 


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 10:20 AM

Between a +12 SoD and +12 TSOD+Skull Cap, there's only a 48 matk and card slot difference '-'

 

If you're going to compare the 2, then make sure you add a skull cap equivalent.  Actually, there isn't so the best alternative is +9 Ordinary magician hat.  With this, it gives ~28% MDEF piercing.  

 

I understand its tempting to compare the two, but its apples to oranges.  The only reason to use TSOD combo is Kaahi leveling in Juperos or Scarabas.  

 

 

+9 Skull Cap/+12TSOD:  8% MATK, +280 MATK, 12% MDEF pierce, -18% Delay reduction, -10% Var.CastTime

+9OBMH/+12SoD        : 11% MATK, +280 MATK, 28% MDEF pierce, -50% MA cast time (10% element skills are left out due to reports not working *sigh)

 

 

By spell flow card set I assume you mean the shadow gear? Should I get caster or something instead? 

 

I was referring to Bloody butterfly card mage card set lmao.  Very out-dated.  I should've known better. Your shadow set is fine.  heck im still using the free shadow set you get from the bugs.  Don't invest too much into shadow sets since they are the last thing you should focus on gear-wise.  High-cost, low-value.

 

Sell the clean FAW and your HBP for heavens sake lol.  Enriched hammer is only for the rich, both IRL and iRO, and already geared people.  You could easily spend 200 mill trying to +9 your +7FAW and have a +4 to show for it, losing basically everything.

 

Instead, buy a +9 FAW ASAP.  Any enchant will do.  Reset it.  Then get it to AT LEAST Spell 17. 1 million zeny resets any unwanted enchants.  This way, you're relying less on RNG.

 

Raydric is highly recommended.  Don't fall for the specialty card trap!  That is unless you love taking 4k/hit damage against most upper level mobs!  I know I said reductions gears are dumb for leveling, but its inevitable you'll be hit by mobs at times and this card is pretty much required for leveling.  


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 10:45 AM

More dex makes sense. I have a clean FAW I can try to upgrade. By spell flow card set I assume you mean the shadow gear? Should I get caster or something instead? The other hat with KK is out of my budget for now. I've managed to get the diabolus robe/ring, HBP, temporal int boots, and everything else by selling HD eluniums as is. If I can sell my witch's pumpkin hat maybe I can try to get the rest of this.

 

Oh yeah I do have a bradium earring (phen) and an empty bradium earring I can put a scaraba in if that will work.
 

 

If you got a witch pumpkin hat, just keep it, it is good for cheap healing.

 

Since what i understand from your post is, warlock is your main and you hope to achieve end-game with it. Like every newbie warlock topic, i suggest you to second a gene with sera homunculus. Focus on getting good gear on them. Or just ditch warlock for awhile, get your gene to the point where you can do hazy with 1 hand. then comeback to your WL.
 


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 10:51 AM

If you got a witch pumpkin hat, just keep it, it is good for cheap healing.

 

Since what i understand from your post is, warlock is your main and you hope to achieve end-game with it. Like every newbie warlock topic, i suggest you to second a gene with sera homunculus. Focus on getting good gear on them. Or just ditch warlock for awhile, get your gene to the point where you can do hazy with 1 hand. then comeback to your WL.
 

I have a genetic but she is cannon/bomb build with a vani>eira. I'm working on a second alchemist for pure potting (going agi/vit homunculus until she rebirths), planning for filir>eleanor. I guess that idea should be scrapped.

 


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 11:27 AM

I have a genetic but she is cannon/bomb build with a vani>eira. I'm working on a second alchemist for pure potting (going agi/vit homunculus until she rebirths), planning for filir>eleanor. I guess that idea should be scrapped.

 

My point is, it is hard and not cost+time effective to make a living with warlock class unless you don't mind spending cash like selling bradium as you said. If you wish to generate 100% income from ingame way, warlock sucks at it. I forgot to mention since too many leech gear around, GXes might be good.

 

Sera homun is for easy cheap +2k damage reduc deducted after all reduction modifier. Sera+allice valk+abysmal helm can help you solo ET until Egnigem cenia with -_- gears. And since you got interest in brewing, that is another plus income.
 

 

If you want to get advice on how to farm your own MVPs with warlock, you need to summon the 2 strongest warlocks on the server.


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 11:44 AM

If you want to get advice on how to farm your own MVPs with warlock, you need to summon the 2 strongest warlocks on the server.

 

Haseo seems to be one of them. Who is the other?


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 11:45 AM

Sounds like I shouldn't max out my warlock first, but my geneticist(s, but that I guess needs to go in the other section.


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 11:48 AM

Haseo seems to be one of them. Who is the other?


On a pvm perspective, no :v
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