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[Ashuckel]

Agreeing with me u just contradict with all u were defending lol

Edited by Ashuckel, 08 June 2016 - 04:57 PM.

[Jezs69]

I agreed on progression, meaning an rpg has to progress with it's content including progressings items available in game.

Therefore, with the tempest shadow set, it would progress players ability to improve their PVM experience.

That's not contradicting at all.

[mrricebox]

That's definitely not the point he was getting at but if it makes you feel better about yourself then sure.

[Ashuckel]

player progression

effort and time spent are rewarded acordingly

[Jezs69]

player progression

effort and time spent are rewarded acordingly

 

Why would the Tempest Shadow set stop player progression?

 

I'm not going to stop playing the game and hunting for the MVP cards I want If we get the Tempest Shadow set.

[WarlockFier]

True, I won't be able to match Zayaan's damage if he has those MVP cards but with the Tempest set it will be easier for me to kill the MVPs who drop those cards.

 

I want the Tempest Set to make my PVM experience better Geez.
 

 

It's already so easy to kill all the current MVPs that exist in the game right now even without gods/ mvps/ broken shadow gears tho... 175 level cap already make that so much easier and better for you.

 

I have seen players without gods/ mvps, or OP Shadow set beat fully decked players before. :y Havenn being a prime example, and look where he is today.

[Jezs69]

It's already so easy to kill all the current MVPs that exist in the game right now even without gods/ mvps/ broken shadow gears tho... 175 level cap already make that so much easier and better for you.

 

I have seen players without gods/ mvps, or OP Shadow set beat fully decked players before. :y Havenn being a prime example, and look where he is today.

 

The tempest shadow set will make it EVEN MORE better.

 

 

Don't care about PVP/WOE. Tempest Shadow Set is AGAIN for PVM only.
 

Edited by Jezs69, 08 June 2016 - 05:49 PM.

[ZeroTigress]

Welp, people wanted the developers to do something about WoE and now they are. They're killing it off. :U Along with the rest of the game.

Bummer.

[WarlockFier]

The tempest shadow set will make it EVEN MORE better.

 

 

Don't care about PVP/WOE. Tempest Shadow Set is AGAIN for PVM only.
 

 

The thing is these shadow sets are never meant to be for PVM only.

[Jezs69]

The thing is these shadow sets are never meant to be for PVM only.

 

The tempest shadow set is specifically made for pvm only.

[Toxn]

Players usually fall under the description of "normal monsters"

The exclusion in the saying of "normal monsters" is the boss protocol.

[Jezs69]

Players usually fall under the description of "normal monsters"

The exclusion in the saying of "normal monsters" is the boss protocol.

PVM only.

 

Magic Demi-Human Shadow Weapon

It gives you the ability to increase your potential of attack to mount these gloves in your weapon.
Adds 5% magical defense bypassing on demi-human monster.(Except player type)
Each 2 refines increase magical defense bypassing on demi-human monster by 1%.(Except player type)
[+ Tempest Shadow Pendant & Tempest Shadow Earring]
MATK + 5.
If the amount of the entire set of refine is equal or superior 25, adds complete magical defense bypassing on demi-human monster.(Except player type)
Class: Shadow Equipment
Location: Weapon Weight :0
Required Level :1
Applicable Jobs :all jobs

[Toxn]

The tempest accessories themselves do not have that exception.

And regardless of if it affects WoE or not is irrelevant. a power creep through $$$ is still a power creep.

The entire future of the game is leaned on PVM. kRO has practically thrown WoE out the window.

So how about we don't screw up the only thing the game has left?

Edited by Toxn, 08 June 2016 - 06:46 PM.

[mrricebox]

I'm not sure if the dictionary has a definition for "spoonfed" but if it doesn't I'll be sure to add your name there.

[KamiKali]

make mvps drop mvp shadow sets problem solved

[PeeJay27]

Hey Oda, just letting you know that looking at kRO update schedule from two years ago, we should be getting nightmare mode glast heim instance within two months. Sadly many friends have gone to play other games since nightmare toy factory was delayed, paramarket ignored, and no interesting updates so far, how about rushing kRO to send us the good stuff before more players get bored?

 

We've been working to get a big push for updates to get way more caught up with updates and content during the summer time. 

 

I agree to this^^^.Where are these missing updates?.You should ask KRO or you will lose players.Instead of adding boring updates, you should think how to put these delayed updates.

 

 

P.S You are missing the good ones!!

[Jezs69]

The tempest accessories themselves do not have that exception.

And regardless of if it affects WoE or not is irrelevant. a power creep through $$$ is still a power creep.

The entire future of the game is leaned on PVM. kRO has practically thrown WoE out the window.

So how about we don't screw up the only thing the game has left?

 

Oh Please! The Devs in Gravity are working hard to make this game survive. This is their cash cow.

 

There are a lot of new and exciting content coming up such as the Cat class, Star Lord/Emperor something, Rebel Awakening etc.

 

The Tempest Shadow Set is not power creep.

 

It improves the PVM experience.

 

This game will live on until I die (lol) and this game is always exciting.
 

[Toxn]

Right, a shadow set that rivals an MVP card affect at no cost but your money is totally an improvement to the health of the game.

 

Maybe the health of the developers wallets, but not the game's liveliness.

Edited by Toxn, 08 June 2016 - 07:17 PM.

[Jezs69]

Right, a shadow set that rivals an MVP card affect at no cost but your money is totally an improvement to the health of the game.

 

Maybe the health of the developers wallets, but not the game's liveliness.

 

It would improve player pvm experience therefore it will improve the game's liveliness duh.
 

[WarlockFier]

It would improve player pvm experience therefore it will improve the game's liveliness duh.
 

 

"improve pvm experience" seems to be your only argument wanting these broken gears... Thing is making the game easier does not means improving the game's experience. When players have nothing left to achieve because game 2ez, that's when it gets boring and people leave. duh.

 

Also, look up the description of Power Creep.

[Toxn]

Removing the difficulty (what is left of it anyways) is not a PVM improvement.
Removing goals from the game, like the worthiness of MVP cards, is not a game improvement.
Breaking the game into absurdity is not a PVM improvement.

An improvement to your own experience is not an improvement to the game's health as a whole. I could sit here and beg for Thanatos Shadow Sets or Upgrade Weapons, or shadow sets of every single MVP card in the game and reap it's benefits to all my hearts content. But do you know why I don't? Because that mentality is the destruction of the game.

[RaveMaster]

or put MVP cards in kafra shop as chakri said and problem solved.

[Jezs69]

"improve pvm experience" seems to be your only argument wanting these broken gears... Thing is making the game easier does not means improving the game's experience. When players have nothing left to achieve because game 2ez, that's when it gets boring and people leave. duh.

 

Also, look up the description of Power Creep.

 

Of course it is, I only play PVM content remember? duh.

 

New content will always come up to make the game better. Again this game is their CASH COW. They will always improve this game.

 

When players do not get their game experience improved, it gets boring and people leave duh.
 

[mrricebox]

Oh so the game should cater to you and you only. Everything you say is completely bias and solely in your own interest. You want nothing but the easy way out for everything, even if that is at the cost of long term server stability. Improve player experience? Game's liveliness? What other bs reasons are you gonna come up with, that MVP shadow sets are gonna make this game the biggest MMO of 2016 and forever? Sets like this do nothing but serve the spoonfed playerbase that seems to be growing by the minute. If new players want to get rich and loaded like veterans, they need to play smart and work hard to get to that point. There's nothing that says the game has to cater to new players so they can stand on equal ground with the long time players.

[Jezs69]

Removing the difficulty (what is left of it anyways) is not a PVM improvement.
Removing goals from the game, like the worthiness of MVP cards, is not a game improvement.
Breaking the game into absurdity is not a PVM improvement.

An improvement to your own experience is not an improvement to the game's health as a whole. I could sit here and beg for Thanatos Shadow Sets or Upgrade Weapons, or shadow sets of every single MVP card in the game and reap it's benefits to all my hearts content. But do you know why I don't? Because that mentality is the destruction of the game.

 

The tempest shadow set will not do all of what you've said.

 

The game retain it's difficulty. People will still work get the True KK card. And it will not break the game.

 

KRO and JRO are still healthy despite having all these so called OP shadow sets. That's because the DEVS are working to improve this game. Again this is their CASH COW.