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#76 7922150906050818863

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 09:58 PM

change spotlight. how much will it still continue? not the best spotlight, but it has been going on for nearly two months
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#77 Ompong15

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 10:01 PM

Change rybio to elder..so combination with freezer..freeze then lightning bolt..lol..Just kidding


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#78 ZeroTigress

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 10:15 PM

Because event NPC is suddenly not so event NPC.


Gramps TIs was originally an event before it became permanent. Seems to be the trend on iRO these days.
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Posted 31 August 2016 - 10:17 PM

Because event NPC is suddenly not so event NPC.

 

^this


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 10:20 PM

change spotlight. how much will it still continue? not the best spotlight, but it has been going on for nearly two months


Spotlight

  • Aldebaran and Lutie Spotlight: Clock Tower, Nightmare Clock Tower and Toy Factory will be spotlit in addition to field maps. 

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 12:06 AM

Enriched hammer pls :(


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 01:20 AM

I hope with this meeting with kRO staff, long overdue bug fixes will finally be addressed.. And some more sentiments and suggestions from thee community be aired out to these RO "BOSSes".


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 01:23 AM

bring back abyss3 high ti pls >:D


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 01:41 AM

Get rid of the spooky machine finally :X

 

Why?? they should leave it forever, its an incentive for login daily and creates the chance that you log on some random char and feel like playing suddenly,


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 02:37 AM

Why?? they should leave it forever, its an incentive for login daily and creates the chance that you log on some random char and feel like playing suddenly,

yes, for less thn 30 secs. what a precious time to improve your bond with your char.
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Posted 01 September 2016 - 03:27 AM

It's an incentive for me to log out next to the machine and never move anywhere else.
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#87 Ashuckel

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 03:40 AM

Thats the situation im in like 40 characters lol
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Posted 01 September 2016 - 05:03 AM

I still don't understand the appeal of the paramarket. From what I can deduce, you have two prominent scenarios.

 

One, all items in the paramarket are readily available for purchase from other players at lower prices.

Two, one or more scarce items are available in the paramarket filling a gap in the player driven supply.

 

In the first scenario, paramarket is completely innocuous, providing no legitimate function and having no impact on the game.

In the second scenario, paramarket is speculatively ripe for botting exploitation.

 

The concern with second scenario could be mitigated by eliminating botting (how's that coming along, WP?), allowing the paramarket to serve a positive function.

Another option to address this potential exploitation would be for WP to constantly manage and update prices and/or available items in the paramarket, in which case, you're back to the first scenario. Also an unlikely happening.

 

So, does the appeal lie with paying higher than average price for items that are readily available or with the potential for bots to buy up the scarce items?

I suppose in the second scenario, if monopolies are created for any given item, it would incentivize players to farm said items to take advantage of the high prices, but eventually you'll get enough competition to drive prices down until you reach the first scenario again.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 05:39 AM

If the kRO guys are in town, show them this; https://forums.warpp...ead/?p=1496988

and ask them to fill in the gaps.

 

^ This. So much this.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 05:51 AM

Since the discussion is on it, is there a list of items that would be sold in the paramarket?


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 06:09 AM

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 06:34 AM

Here's a list, in red are items that would damage the market the most according to past discussion. The rest, are either botted anyways, or don't matter.

 

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 06:40 AM

Since the discussion is on it, is there a list of items that would be sold in the paramarket?

 

Whatever WP feels should be sold, in whatever quantity, with whatever frequency, at whatever price (though Campitor said 150-300% markup).

 

We can control the following

 

Items Sold

Prices Items are Sold

Amount of items sold

Days items are sold

Times items are Sold

Calendar Day items are sold

We are going to implement it, however since the items act as an effective price cap we will be pricing the items based upon their current Market value. The goal is to set the prices (depending on the item) to somewhere around 150-300% of what it currently costs. We always want the first choice for these items to be purchasing from other players and the prices should reflect this, as well as providing a realistic zeny sink should someone choose to buy these items.

 

We will be posting a comparison of the kRO and iRO prices for commenting in this thread. We will also review what items are available and may need to purge them if they are meant to be truly rare.

 


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#94 Kusanagisama

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 06:47 AM

Ideally, everyone is expected to progress in their RO career, and in the future the ones that are now "poor" will become "rich" (like, i had close to nothing 2 years ago) and some decisions can harm their own future.

The key thing is not actually the cost for poor, but accessibility. If they can make their own stuff by spending more time but less money, thats what they do, because it's just the best option for them atm. For someone well estabilished the time spent doing certain thing to obtain a certain item could be better used doing something else, that would net them mroe money, so instead they just buy from the "poor" hardworker ppl. It's actually a really simple thinking

 

Ash... accessibility and price are directly related... you know... SUPPLY!!! (Always wanted to say that to you :gg:) About the rest of your reasoning, maybe we're thinking about different items. You're right in this argument, but I was thinking about mid to high end gears that are too expensive for most newcomers and become more accessible everytime there's a hammer event. Maybe you were thinking on topic, about items available on the Paramarket (and people are still talking about it... XD), and if this was the case, I agree with you. It just wasn't clear in your former statement.

 

change spotlight. how much will it still continue? not the best spotlight, but it has been going on for nearly two months

 

WAT?!?! They just changed it. Where have you been in the past week? In Klapeida?

 

Why?? they should leave it forever, its an incentive for login daily and creates the chance that you log on some random char and feel like playing suddenly,

 

Seriously, though, even though it's not anything costy, and I'm aware that I don't need to use it, I'm pretty tired of this event. I always stay longer than originally planed to try to get boo cards for the next day, and more often than not, it doesn't end as planned. I have some chars with a lot of O cards, and one with a lot of B cards...


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 06:57 AM

@richie and meli, thanks for the posts/quotes/images. 

 

Have a meme as a gesture of my thanks:

 

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 07:26 AM

If every item price in the game was related to hammer avaiability yes, but its not like that :v
When you make an item +7>+9, you increase its value, but doesnt means more zeny was created, its just speculation value. But the prices of everything in the game arent tied to the real zeny in the server but the speculated zeny, aka creating more "fake value" gears makes decreases the value of actual zeny, and then you need more zeny to buy the same item that was cheaper just a while ago.
Now anything that is not related to hammer gets harder and harder to buy, unless its something very accessible through farming, and the ppl that bought gears for cheaper, are further away from getting it.(unless rngesus smile upon you)
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Posted 01 September 2016 - 07:27 AM

Enriched Hammer please  :p_love:


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 07:40 AM

Enriched Hammer please  :p_love:

 

 

Enriched hammer pls :(

 

 

Giff Enriched Hammer I need some of dem elunium dust to snort

 

 

also Enriched Hammer please :D it's time to upgrade and enjoy our new crimson weapons!

 

 

Just enable enriched hammer, he seems new for us:/

 

 

Enriched Hammer and double vip would be great!

 

so please xD


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:27 AM

bring back abyss3 high ti pls > :D

yes please bring back AL3! I think the players have learned their lesson about changing from good high TI maps to sh1tty ones :(


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:32 AM

Is shadow event refine stay?
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