73 replies to this topic

[Xellie]

Satan Morroc is everywhere! 

 

And green plants...

 

sorry i'll stay still

[Rastaban]

Not only is my client totally vanilla, I still play with effects on and (mostly) stock BGMs that aren't muted.

 

Sometimes I feel like I'm some kind of freak.

[Myzery]

I think QoL edits are okay, I think ones that let you cheat mechanics are not. I like to think of them as add ons much like WoW has :X

 

Being able to change your cursor color should be something that is added to the game. Things like that would help a ton of people and as for the WoW thing, even people there take addons to far. lol
 

Edited by Myzery, 15 March 2017 - 08:27 PM.

[Ashuckel]

The better your pc is, the worse it is to run RO. I tought that was pretty clear already.

[Shippou22]

i guess the real question is, if some of these QoL edits are acceptable, why arent they made more readily available to the general public? since way back i have noticed that trying to edit anything in RO locally can be a pain in research and dealing with gibberish named files. something as simple as editing your aura involves dealing with unmanageable filenames and stuff from what i remember, we really need an iROwiki page dedicated to making these as friendly as possible so everyone has access to the accepted edits, because lets face it, the initiative doesnt seem like it will come from high up.

 

most of what these edits do, should be options available ingame, and the way most ro skills work it is almost impossible to properly tell which tiles are affected, even for stuff that seems clear as day, like sanctuary tiles, you can be healed while being outside the shiny tiles.

[Myzery]

Because they are allowed, but not supported. It isn't very hard to learn how to do some simple edits yourself if you choose to.

[needmorezleep]

kro would probably get iro into deep -_- if they were to publicly tell people how to modify grfs...since kro doesnt believe anyone can open grfs yet somehow

[MalakGalthana]

More on target I think at the end of the day some of these edits should be editable client side with an on off, like no shake for instance. But that would require 30 minutes of detailed coding and a head nod from kro.

Naturally impossible.

[ChakriGuard]

I used to see only big TT Rangers in WoE and few +14 KVM suras. Now I see everyone big in WoE because they all run with +14 KVM/+15 KVM and equipped with Gods and MvPs lol

[PervySageMarty]

So i take it im not allowed hentai edits to enrich the experience of a childrens online game?

[allygator1]

So i take it im not allowed hentai edits to enrich the experience of a childrens online game?

well... according to CM Astra's post, its technically not against the rules as its merely a graphical edit.

[Ashuckel]

as long as you dont present it to children, go on

[Nirvanna21]

Being able to change your cursor color should be something that is added to the game. Things like that would help a ton or people and as for the WoW thing, even people there take addons to far. lol

 

Absolutely, I had a classmate who made some of the real big time addons for WoW, some that are still popular to use til this day... and they really screw up the game for most due to the competitive edge they gave for things :X

 

i guess the real question is, if some of these QoL edits are acceptable, why arent they made more readily available to the general public? since way back i have noticed that trying to edit anything in RO locally can be a pain in research and dealing with gibberish named files. something as simple as editing your aura involves dealing with unmanageable filenames and stuff from what i remember, we really need an iROwiki page dedicated to making these as friendly as possible so everyone has access to the accepted edits, because lets face it, the initiative doesnt seem like it will come from high up.

 

most of what these edits do, should be options available ingame, and the way most ro skills work it is almost impossible to properly tell which tiles are affected, even for stuff that seems clear as day, like sanctuary tiles, you can be healed while being outside the shiny tiles.

 

It's like the CC formula, they know it, but they can't say it because kRO are pretty secluded in their development and asset process. They need a wakeup call but EH.

 

kro would probably get iro into deep if they were to publicly tell people how to modify grfs...since kro doesnt believe anyone can open grfs yet somehow

 

kRO logic suggests that it is hard for people to Google the information. 10/train.

[aaadvanced]

GMs please add /effect2 with minimal AoE effects (minimal SG, LOV, MS, Magnificat, Angelus, Gloria & more)

[Xellie]

there's some edits I think warpportal should adopt, for example

• big card - why is such a potentially important item so hard to see?
• noshake for classic
• proper mini-effects for wizard AoE
• cursor and aura colour changes

 

and then there's some edits that are flat out gross but purely cosmetic such as

• some cast circles
• Asura animation

 

Some that provide an advantage that the staff *think* are purely cosmetic

• Minimaps for missing ones (this advantage in WoE to people that have to tab and look up flags! Everyone should have it or nobody)
• More visible status effects (again this should be all or nothing)
• Buff timers in WoE (RCX timers are disabled in WoE for this reason!)

 

 

And then there's cosmetic edits that provide a distinct advantage

• hide indicators
• bright red grimtooth
• enhanced stalker footprints

 

 

As a player people have to kind of "guess" if things are okay (note the rules thread still says nothing about MP hack despite that being a client edit in the same category as zoom hack) And some (in that third list) should be all or none since they DO provide an advantage.

 

RCX is kinda like that too. It's taken me months of getting that stupid program to finally work (I had to replace my dinput.dll for anyone that is interested and it was a fresh install so wtf?) and it causes fps drops and it's ugly and it doesn't look "ROish" but I have to use it because I need to know where gutterlines are to command my guild effectively and well everyone else has that information because their third party program worked fine!

[PervySageMarty]

I think warpportal should adopt naked character edits, its being descriminative to nudists....children have the right to know before there were clothes, there was nakedness.

Thats my 2 cents arguement.

Pneuma timers are downright stupid, any budding priest player should be able to micromanage their pneumas as well as others, its part of surveying the landscape. If we make such an edit allowable, it would only bring down the already low skillplay of AB's, and im running into an awful lot of them.

Edited by PervySageMarty, 16 March 2017 - 02:58 AM.

[squirreI]

I think WP should adopt greyworld.

[Ashuckel]

No

[Xellie]

gross

[squirreI]

There is an official method for showing gutterlines.


I don't see why they shouldn't. RCX provides a bigger advantage than greyworld.

Edited by VModCinnamon, 16 March 2017 - 02:54 PM.
Merged post for a cleaner look

[Xellie]

RCX is BS too imo

[KingOfBabylon]

Unfair advantage mods shouldn't ever be allowed.  But mods that don't give advantages, people only pretend to care if it's someone they're beefing with

[ShinobiEX3]

The age of modding the games u play and listening to opinions of other players on how to play the game u love. Welp you all might as well just make ur own video game and play by ur self. -.- that will solve everything

[Xellie]

I think the GM team should define "advantage", because that is a really loose term. (e.g: improving visibility of debuff on a target could be seen as an advantage?)