179 replies to this topic

[yamasakai90]

A dramatic change of policy or trend, there is always winner and loser.  dont use stock as example, stock shared is limited. Spilt has to do with original share, OCP8 isnt.

I dont want to start fiat $ vs gold , silver topic.  I already brought near 100EDA from market, "i am trader, I will adopt"

 

Just make cylinder 4000 KP on KP shop like vana hat, that will solve problem once for all. 

 

Thanks, please adopt. Looking from the trends (First syringe and now cylinder and EDA), surprise that no one QQ over Evil Dragon Armor Price, from 400m-500m down to 80m - 90m. Thats around the same 80% off like cylinder.

 

Now we all know that QQ-ing will not stop them from re-releasing it if the sales are well. Not with Syringe, not with Cylinder. As long as ppl continue to spend KP on the items, losing one whale while gaining a lot of new buyers helps with their profit.

 

You want to really QQ and make an effect? Make ppl stop buying kp!   If the effect is large enough to affect their profit, then they will listen. Otherwise, as you mention, just adopt.

[PoySanity]

Thanks, please adopt. Looking from the trends (First syringe and now cylinder and EDA), surprise that no one QQ over Evil Dragon Armor Price, from 400m-500m down to 80m - 90m. Thats around the same 80% off like cylinder.

Now we all know that QQ-ing will not stop them from re-releasing it if the sales are well. Not with Syringe, not with Cylinder. As long as ppl continue to spend KP on the items, losing one whale while gaining a lot of new buyers helps with their profit.

You want to really QQ and make an effect? Make ppl stop buying kp! If the effect is large enough to affect their profit, then they will listen. Otherwise, as you mention, just adopt.

Yes "Adopt". They only rant about this cylinder because the item is too op and they all get a profit by selling it at billions but then price drop hurts. They cant accept it especially those hoarders. Lol

[mattxor]

Yes "Adopt". They only rant about this cylinder because the item is too op and they all get a profit by selling it at billions but then price drop hurts. They cant accept it especially those hoarders. Lol

 

To me this does not make any sense at all because if you drop the price the hoarders have the billions to buy them all up. Your statement contradicts itself.

 

My advice is to keep all OP gear that is exclusive at a high price. If you sell it low, you are helping drain that item from the market and into the hoarders hands. Most of these players have been botting for years and they have more funds than you can imagine waiting for a moment like this.

 

From what I understand and I could be wrong, the items contained in the boxes never will be able to make it to the Kafra shop for a direct purchase.

[Demeris]

To me this does not make any sense at all because if you drop the price the hoarders have the billions to buy them all up. Your statement contradicts itself.

My advice is to keep all OP gear that is exclusive at a high price. If you sell it low, you are helping drain that item from the market and into the hoarders hands. Most of these players have been botting for years and they have more funds than you can imagine waiting for a moment like this.

From what I understand and I could be wrong, the items contained in the boxes never will be able to make it to the Kafra shop for a direct purchase.

Exactly, hoarders will buy it all cheap and resell it once the price is right. High prices keeps hoarders away from taking all of the desired items from the market

[vividort]

errrrrm and then plebs wont get their hands on them right? since the cheap we`re talking about is like 600m which atm arent even available on vending anymore ¬¬' Well i guess ill have to spend this month trying to buy one at a reasonable price with the feeling that it wont end my way since i cant get to sell my stuff because no one cares anymore and only wants to buy cylinders. Ok im done with my rage, sorry for that.

[PoySanity]

To me this does not make any sense at all because if you drop the price the hoarders have the billions to buy them all up. Your statement contradicts itself.

My advice is to keep all OP gear that is exclusive at a high price. If you sell it low, you are helping drain that item from the market and into the hoarders hands. Most of these players have been botting for years and they have more funds than you can imagine waiting for a moment like this.

From what I understand and I could be wrong, the items contained in the boxes never will be able to make it to the Kafra shop for a direct purchase.

Idk why i say hoarders when i meant to say is op sellers. Lol. My fault (Giving comments while its 4am is bad)

[mattxor]

LOL It's all good. Nothing against you, I am just trying to do my best to be as cut and dry on these forums as possible.

 

I know there will be a time where I don't makes sense at all and I hope someone would explain why I am wrong instead of just finding a reason to throw insults.

Edited by mattxor, 17 July 2017 - 04:43 PM.

[PettyCash]

Btw peeps, good news, cylinder price is stabilised at 800m~900m. Lets celebrate? Yes? No?

[matizsahsa]

ouH tHe priCe is staBilizing BetTer buy them MoB sCarF's NAOW!"11

[Diskence]

Pretty much tells you don't bother spending on OCP ranked S gears. Just wait till it comes back out in 2-3 month in another box so you can get it for 1/4 the price. I have personally decided to stop buying OCP boxes.

[mattxor]

From my experience, It is better to just sell KP than open OCP's. I hope others have better luck than me.  

[yamasakai90]

800-900m is still an acceptable price. But its still +40% more. Someone cleared the market and then vend 900m before I went to bed yesterday.

 

Anyway, its a fight between those with a large reserves and wants to buy cheap cylinders vs people who kept opening boxes. 'Demand' vs Supply. When cylinder is 'too' expensive for the current market, people will just open OCP to get it. At a rate of 1/10* right now. It seems cheaper to open it.

 

 

*I honestly believe its 1/20 but 6k wpe is still 1.2b? 

[zilahmonsan]

definitely cheaper to open a box.

I have no sympathy to the hoarders and resellers QQ because they are losing money. Players are suffering because of your OP price.

Karma is just a bitch.

 

Thor's rate:

300M = 1k WPE

box is around 90m

 

as long as you don't get the trash (elu, hunting, bb), you earn a profit.

Edited by zilahmonsan, 17 July 2017 - 05:38 PM.

[mikkotinamide]

definitely cheaper to open a box.

I have no sympathy to the hoarders and resellers QQ because they are losing money. Players are suffering because of your OP price.

Karma is just a bitch.

 

I thought you wanted cylinder prices to stay high?

 

I kinda dodge a bullet there. I was able to buy one for 600m the day before they went up to 900m

Edited by mikkotinamide, 17 July 2017 - 05:38 PM.

[zilahmonsan]

I thought you wanted cylinder prices to stay high?

 

I kinda dodge a bullet there. I was able to buy one for 600m the day before they went up to 900m

 

I know how to adapt to market changes I don't really care about the market prices. 

 

Sold mine for 1b+ before the OCP8 

Edited by zilahmonsan, 17 July 2017 - 05:41 PM.

[PervySageMarty]

Many od us do not really care too much about underpricing the market in all honesty, but i am just a perverted greedy arsehole myself and love my zenny.

[PoySanity]

Many od us do not really care too much about underpricing the market in all honesty, but i am just a perverted greedy arsehole myself and love my zenny.

Greedy sellers do care.

[XanneAgain]

So you guys are saying that someone's buying "cheap" cylinder for 500-600m? What are they gonna do with 100ish cylinder they hoarded? Even if they sell it at the "normal" price after OCP 8 is gone, the price difference from what they spent and what they gain won't cut it. People already have their own cylinders by then. They will get stuck with so much supply of cylinder and close to no demand. Not to mention the posibility or a firesale and boxter. I think that's kinda counter intuitive and childish.

[mattxor]

No, they were buying them for 300. When the time is right, they will sell them over a bill.

Edited by mattxor, 18 July 2017 - 09:44 AM.

[XanneAgain]

Yeah that's what I was saying. I'm talking about hardcore hoarders here, those who have too much zeny and automatically buy CHB at 500-600m vending like what i understand reading this thread

[mattxor]

I am happy with 600m+ per because at 300m they would get double the amount that they were planning on buying.

[BlackMeow]

Lol

[MikeWolf]

I don't think some people in this thread don't understand what the consequences are that if you keep pissing the people that put up money(Cash,Moolah,Dollars) like this, like pervysage stated you are going to create a culture of non-trust between customer and company because they screwing up the way an SSS item is being released. It's like buying a Rolls Royce $200k but then few months later Rolls Royce decides to sell the same item at a fraction of the price, how do you want the customer to feel? 

[ShinobiEX3]

None of this wouldn't be a problem if they never placed gears with effects on them in the OCP to begin with. If they just gave costumes and consumables and let the items generate from monster spawns, the game would have been alot more steady. Of course that means more man power in fighting bots then again nothing is easy if u want to succeed. Apparently gravity is succeeding in ro players money so who needs hardworking or man power to fight bots eh?

[MikeWolf]

I agree with you on that on so many levels.

None of this wouldn't be a problem if they never placed gears with effects on them in the OCP to begin with. If they just gave costumes and consumables and let the items generate from monster spawns, the game would have been alot more steady. Of course that means more man power in fighting bots then again nothing is easy if u want to succeed. Apparently gravity is succeeding in ro players money so who needs hardworking or man power to fight bots eh?