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#51 Xellie

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:50 PM

there is no delay for using pots for nobody. also there is no delay in using these not rare blues for nobody. there is absolutely no reason to punish monks. you could pot all time since monks exist to bypass the 5-minute-reg-break. thats not new. bluepots were no factor for highlevel players even without woepots. woepots or crafted top10 blues doesnt matter. good woe monks had unlimited spstuff all time. so its just no argument.  i think you want to make all classes as weak as possible but your assa wont be better then. we talk again when assa-x is op and you defend it against everybody with the same lazy arguments. zZzzZ

 

Back when 2-2 was first put in blues were damned hard to farm, strawberries didn't even exist.  The skill was not created around infinity sp items. 

 

Unless of course you can back up your rhetoric and explain to me how monks, on a premium server, in pre-trans, had infinite blue pots? The answer is they didn't. Maybe they had a botting problem on euro in pretrans?

 

It'd be like putting EDP in the cash shop (which is a terrible idea, EDP is balanced around it requiring a lot of work to farm and create)


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#52 hansibaer

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:59 PM

How to get unlimited SP Stuff for WoE? Dont be lazy. Write less in forums, farm more. Sorry. I feel trolled that i have to explain to you how to prepare for woe. Seems weird to me. Its absolutely no problem to farm some hundred blue herbs and make pots out of it every week. Thereover you get berries and seeds from tb and mvping. sorry but i never had less sp items. and if you spread rumors about bot problems on p2p server you are damn wrong. if you cant imagine a guild prepares together for woe farms stuff e.g. while you prefer to sit around and tell stories its your problem. but its fact.

it was possible to have unlimited sp items in woe while the skill had NO 10 seconds delay. and you know what? nobody whined about that...

 

 

so all in all the change they made on this server is absolutely senseless. monks need to counter uber strong knights. the faster they can asura the better. it will balance woe...nobody can def a <Thingy> right now. and lokis wont change this until knight can be killed fast enough. isnt that the truth?

 

ok. you edited. its also np to have as much edp in woe as you need. if you think about wasting for every <rabbit>. thats not the points but in important situations assa-x could edp as much as needed and champs could asura as much as needed. thats it. do you want delay on EDP? i dont think so.

 

and if i could chose... i would chose no woepots and no delay....


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#53 Jewpac

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:06 PM

i mean u guys r tryin to b 2 logical here. gfist is supposed 2 b a move where u spend everything u have to take a homie out. u think goku can run around n throw another spirit bomb after he takes some1 out? they r not gonna change it n xellie is givin reasons y it make sense, but u dues fail 2 realize this aint 10 years ago. u should be glad u dont have renewal cast times.


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#54 Xellie

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:09 PM

How to get unlimited SP Stuff for WoE? Dont be lazy. Write less in forums, farm more. Sorry. I feel trolled that i have to explain to you how to prepare for woe. Seems weird to me. Its absolutely no problem to farm some hundred blue herbs and make pots out of it every week. Thereover you get berries and seeds from tb and mvping. sorry but i never had less sp items. and if you spread rumors about bot problems on p2p server you are damn wrong. if you cant imagine a guild prepares together for woe farms stuff e.g. while you prefer to sit around and tell stories its your problem. but its fact.

it was possible to have unlimited sp items in woe while the skill had NO 10 seconds delay. and you know what? nobody whined about that... but hey, you are here.....

 

 

so all in all the change they made on this server is absolutely senseless. monks need to counter uber strong knights. the faster they can asura the better. it will balance woe...nobody can def a <Thingy> right now. and lokis wont change this until knight can be killed fast enough. isnt that the truth?

 

ok. you edited. its also np to have as much edp in woe as you need. if you think about wasting for every <rabbit>. thats not the points but in important situations assa-x could edp as much as needed and champs could asura as much as needed. thats it. do you want delay on EDP? i dont think so.

 

and if i could chose... i would chose no woepots and no delay....

 

You are so rude. Even if you farm all those things there's a limited amount of time between woes and other guilds to compete for it.

 

source: I led a successful guild back in the day. What's your source? Theory craft and maybe "I know a guy" ?

 

edit: about EDP: they changed it so it goes away if you change weapon. Which is kinda worse than having a delay. Renewal how does it work. 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:14 PM

The big picture is Those delay are added to address in Ballancing 3rd class Job. Monk werent the only been "punish". All the characters was also affected ...

By the way this way also render Client edit and modication useless...
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:16 PM

n also some1 like xellie could complain about edp cus it only makes auto atks strong n u cant just run ^ n sonic blow 1 shot ne more


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:23 PM

source: I led a successful guild back in the day. What's your source? Theory craft and maybe "I know a guy" ?

 

 

Which one?
 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:26 PM

Which one?

 

Does it matter? You're from euro aren't you?

 

I've been leading my guild for almost 13 years now (with breaks taken helping lead other ones) there's a reason we're not a "small" guild. 

 

The point is if you have to hunt the items, they are limited. Only X number can exist. It's not hard to understand. 

 

Now my turn to ask a question

 

back up your rhetoric and explain to me how monks, on a premium server, in pre-trans, had infinite blue pots? 

 

 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:00 PM

Keep it on topic please.


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#60 hansibaer

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:18 PM

Hunting items is not limited on our server. Mobs respawn instantly. Not enough players to limit the mobhunting in any way. You also dont need infinite. "Enough SP Items" is already okay. if your monks never had enough spitems with them okay. i have another experience. in this einbrochsetting we have its very easy to farm sp items. i just think that more guilds could maybe invest a castle or do something which is not bitching 2 hours, when defending get pushed. monk will make defs stronger, so id like to remove the delay to counter knights, woesage, and soon crusader barde dancer. there will be more asura needed soon.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:33 PM

Okay, that didn't last long. Locking thread!   :p_swt: 


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