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#126 DieNasty

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:01 PM

Anyone tested the Celine's Brooch on a Genetic? Is it worth it or is this a magic class item only?


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:40 PM

The matk part of acid bomb gives a huge advantage of celine brooch/ribbon hype
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:53 PM

not enough to beat other gear choices out there, aka proper atk/ranged boosting acc and headgear. The perma sacra can be nice if you solo.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:49 PM

not enough to beat other gear choices out there, aka proper atk/ranged boosting acc and headgear. The perma sacra can be nice if you solo.


For some reason with all my wl gears Here is my set up.
Fixed cast time redux: 50% from Celine brooch and ribbon, 25% from radius and 15% from weapon which will total up 90%
Variable Celine ribbon 10% FAW 30% Celine brooch 10, laphine shield 10% temp shoes 10% magi glove 10% mob scarf 9%

My matk is 1500 thou with this set up

And my cast is nowhere close to instance cast =_=


Even when I add sacra buff the cast still far from instant

Edited by Handersen, 13 October 2017 - 02:51 PM.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:52 PM

For some reason with all my wl gears Here is my set up.
Fixed cast time redux: 50% from Celine brooch and ribbon, 25% from radius and 15% from weapon which will total up 90%
Variable Celine ribbon 10% FAW 30% Celine brooch 10, laphine shield 10% temp shoes 10% magi glove 10% mob scarf 9%

My matk is 1500 thou with this set up

And my cast is nowhere close to instance cast =_=

 

General percentage FCT redux category never stacks (it stacks some time in the past during bugged fenrir card effect in early GMT days), you only get 50% fixed cast redux, lesser redux from radius skill and the weapon will be ignored
 


Edited by DataDrain, 13 October 2017 - 02:58 PM.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:53 PM

For some reason with all my wl gears Here is my set up.
Fixed cast time redux: 50% from Celine brooch and ribbon, 25% from radius and 15% from weapon which will total up 90%
Variable Celine ribbon 10% FAW 30% Celine brooch 10, laphine shield 10% temp shoes 10% magi glove 10% mob scarf 9%

My matk is 1500 thou with this set up

And my cast is nowhere close to instance cast =_=

 

I explained the fixed cast time to you already :I

 

The only time where it can be achieved 100% via fixed % if if it is specifically for a skill, for example Spirit King Ring reduces fixed casting time for Warmer by 50% per ring, this stacks for instant cast.

 

Variable casting is the same.

 

((Variable Cast Time - Flat VCT Reduction) * VCT Stat Mulplier) * FCT % Reduction

 

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:56 PM

I explained the fixed cast time to you already :I

The only time where it can be achieved 100% via fixed % if if it is specifically for a skill, for example Spirit King Ring reduces fixed casting time for Warmer by 50% per ring, this stacks for instant cast.

Variable casting is the same.

((Variable Cast Time - Flat VCT Reduction) * VCT Stat Mulplier) * FCT % Reduction

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Are you sure?
My db rk can get instant DB with temp dex and 100% variable redux it's instant db
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:59 PM

Are you sure?
My db rk can get instant DB with temp dex and 100% variable redux it's instant db

 

Yep, but...

 

A- DB has 0.5 fixed cast, so Temp Dex Boots NULLIFY IT :U

B- 100% variable redux is better than the 89% you posted prior.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:01 PM

Yep, but...

A- DB has 0.5 fixed cast, so Temp Dex Boots NULLIFY IT :U
B- 100% variable redux is better than the 89% you posted prior.

so I should work to get that 11% to get nearly instant?

I guess I can get 109% with 2x di card but I hate di coz it reduced my hp

Edited by Handersen, 13 October 2017 - 03:02 PM.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:03 PM

so I should work to get that 11% to get nearly instant?

I guess I can get 109% with 2x di card but I hate di coz it reduced my hp

 

That will fix your VCT, but it won't fix your FCT, therefore it will still not be 100% cast.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:04 PM

That will fix your VCT, but it won't fix your FCT, therefore it will still not be 100% cast.


Another thing

Which one is better 100% mdef ignore with 600/700 ish matk

Or

50% mdef ignore with 1600 matk?
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM

Another thing

Which one is better 100% mdef ignore with 600/700 ish matk

Or

50% mdef ignore with 1600 matk?

 

Situational, mind you 50% MDEF is pretty useless, 90%+ is where it actually does something for the most part.


Edited by Nirvanna21, 13 October 2017 - 03:08 PM.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:08 PM

Situational.


Overall. all situation which one is better?

Can you give a better explanation by situational?

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:10 PM

Honestly at the end of the day, you will probably be better off with 50% and 1600, I mean it is literally more than double MATK as is. The only way it could be better is if you had 1000+ MATK and 100% MDEF Bypass.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:16 PM

I'm not sure the pororoca shoes combo with lacryma matk is but the iggnore mdef part only when performing a certain magic.

So my main gear is kardui laphine staff and shield with my top matk is close to 1600

So if I get poro and lacryma will I performing better or my laphine set is way better than lacryma

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:18 PM

I'm not sure the pororoca shoes combo with lacryma matk is but the iggnore mdef part only when performing a certain magic.

So my main gear is kardui laphine staff and shield with my top matk is close to 1600

So if I get poro and lacryma will I performing better or my laphine set is way better than lacryma

 

Lac+Poro with a Level 10 Frost Nova learned is 50% MDEF Bypass, + Magician's Glove that makes for 100% MDEF Bypass.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:24 PM

Lac+Poro with a Level 10 Frost Nova learned is 50% MDEF Bypass, + Magician's Glove that makes for 100% MDEF Bypass.

What's the top matk can you get from those lacryma and poroca?
I never owned it so I can't compare it.

With the same stat like I have I was estimating it will cut my current matk by half

Edited by Handersen, 13 October 2017 - 03:25 PM.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:53 PM

I missed the last 4 OCP can anyone recommend must buy items for gene/warlock/ranger? thanks


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:57 PM

I missed the last 4 OCP can anyone recommend must buy items for gene/warlock/ranger? thanks

 

Flame Dragon Armor (OCP VIII), Medical Scrubs (OCP IX), Luminous Blue Stone (OCP X)
 


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 03:03 PM

Thankss magicians glove looks fire also! 


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 03:09 PM

That's OCP VII, If I remember correctly. I thought you mentioned last 4 OCP including OCP XI :P

 

Yeah, that must have items too for most spellcasters not just warlock alone


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 03:10 PM

damn they come out fast lol


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 12:58 AM

That's the main issue with this kind of thing called OCP. If you've been away to the game long you'll probably lost track of what came out when and what's good now. If this keeps going... we will be needing a dumpster to keep the things that are unnecessary away. Oh wait, Granma is already doing that. :heh:

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:33 AM

Another thing

Which one is better 100% mdef ignore with 600/700 ish matk

Or

50% mdef ignore with 1600 matk?

 

1600 MATK/50% Bypass will roughly even to 700 MATK/100% bypass at 333 enemy's MDEF, but if you're talking about warlocks, it changes, as Recognized Spell will greatly favor Weapon MATK, specially Weapon MATK Variance, and in this case the calculation will be more compex. That's why he called it situational.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:08 AM

1600 MATK/50% Bypass will roughly even to 700 MATK/100% bypass at 333 enemy's MDEF, but if you're talking about warlocks, it changes, as Recognized Spell will greatly favor Weapon MATK, specially Weapon MATK Variance, and in this case the calculation will be more compex. That's why he called it situational.


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