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#626 Ashuckel

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 12:37 PM

if you use actual good reductions, you can make it hit lower than 30k :X


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 01:27 PM

if you use actual good reductions, you can make it hit lower than 30k :X

 

Yep, Glorious set is dead for years.

 

The max i was able to hit was 35k~40k (using some buffs) as far as i remember, against someone using a entire full reduction (75% ranged and 84% human).

 

Using Anti Material Blast i was able to one shot that target (69k HP and the reductions).

 

But it's kinda fun to see Slug Shot doing the large damage, gravity is lazy.


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 03:10 PM

DT should be stronger with kvm


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 03:52 PM

i hope they lower the slug bullet's weight 


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 03:55 PM

Nope, its fixed 

 

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 04:20 PM

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i went to sakray today and tested some stuff,
so this RK is wearing some reduction items, but sadly there is no CK in Sakray, so i substitute it with using Halagas Runestone ( stone skin ),  since im not using Thana or SS card, just a normal Hydra card.  i do believe Defense will be included into damage calculation.
 
RK's equipments are :
- Abysmal Knight Helmet ( -10% damage from Demi-Human )
- Hockey Mask ( -5% )
- Glorious Suit / +9 Kardui Robe ( -7%  )
- +9 Cranial Immuke Shield ( -30% damage from Demi-Human, -30% damage from Long range attack )
- Glorious Shoes / Lian Shoes ( -4% )
- +12 Anti Sniping Hero Cap ( -34% Neutral Resist, -10% Long range attack )
- you will able to improve the rings, i forgot but there is an ocp ring that able to reduce 4% Demi-Human, total will be 8% )
 
noww 
i didnt change Rebel equipments , i used same with that gif with sura on it. 
 
so the total reductions i have :
- 56% Demi-Human, - 34% Neutral Resist, -40% Long range attack, and Halagas Stone Skin effect. 
 
and im using neutral property pseudo Slug Shot, 
also there is no skill damage increase since im using Hit Barrel, not Platinum Altar.
 
here is the difference between Mounted RK and normal one. 
 
Normal unmounted RK ( Medium Size )  :p_idea:
 
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Mounted RK ( Large Size )  :p_hi:

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KvM Shotgun is really bad, base weapon atk is the one that makes slug shot damage jump, since this kvm has low atk ( 110 base ), the damage is even lower than Hydra DF ( 400 base )  :p_sad: .
however KvM Grenade Launcer is really good, with +14 KvM GL, Dragon Tail ( 330 base ) damage is stronger than SS without MvP card ( specter / thana ).
well from the beginning Shotgun x Grenade build a thing :p_laugh: .
 
btw my replay file kinda weird, the mounted Rk is the same RK with the same stats and same equipment, 
her hair color is not blue and there is no abysmal helm sprite. (._. ?)
 
but  i can assure you, this is the same RK wearing same equipments :heh: .

 

You can use elemental converter with this skill right?


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 04:41 PM

yap, all rebellion hard hitting skills are .

 


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 04:42 PM

how to get 75% ranged and 85% demi-human reduction ? o__o

 

let me test that with dragon tail. 


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 05:17 PM

complete woe set, noxious, 2x aligators, imuke.


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 05:45 PM

 the ones you get from Investment ?

 

if that so, i dun want to do that, too lazeh  :heh:  :heh:

 

but ill test with DA later, another 80% ranged reduction


Edited by Silvianna, 03 December 2017 - 05:46 PM.

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Posted 03 December 2017 - 05:47 PM

RK just needs to use millenium shield for 100% reduction...


Okay i’ll see myself out :P
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Posted 03 December 2017 - 05:54 PM

Didn't know you will be considered as large size mod when you mount


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 06:35 PM

Didn't know you will be considered as large size mod when you mount

 

Yeah. this is news to me as well, if this is true then Skel Worker Cards would loose some of its usefulness in PvP?


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Posted 03 December 2017 - 07:22 PM

yap, all rebellion hard hitting skills are .


Does it miss if you have 100pd?

Or Does it miss if you have high flee? Like GX halluci walk?
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Posted 03 December 2017 - 09:02 PM

i havent tested it but the skill itself has their own accuracy setting.

 

reduced 6 per cell after first 3 cells, one thing that weird

if you shoot a poring from afar, you will miss even if your hit rate is close to 700.

 

however if you tank and shoot agi-up mvps, it hits 

i tried it many times with agi up ktullanux, mistress and hatii.

 

so answering your question, based on this incomplete theory,  if this skill has its own accuracy setting 

then it wont miss vs 100pd or having high flee as long as your position is not too far from the target.

 

unless , you can describe me about what equipments you are using to get 100 pd, something like that.

then i can help with test data.

 

 

 

i was just curious about how reduction works, thats why i tested slug shot damage in pvp area.

even though the result has no or never has benefit on me since im pvm player :heh: .


Edited by Silvianna, 03 December 2017 - 09:04 PM.

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:09 AM

perfect dodge doesnt affect skills '-'

and since the skill loses a % of hit rate as you distance yourself, yes you will pretty much miss anything regardless of your hit rate if you shoot from far
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:54 AM

Question about Card Desocketing
1. This is just evnt or forever NPC
2. Can I desocket every item and card without brakeing both of them ? (In case fail desocketing)
*I need to put card in my bio5 hat and flattery*
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:57 AM

Question about Card Desocketing
1. This is just evnt or forever NPC
2. Can I desocket every item and card without brakeing both of them ? (In case fail desocketing)
*I need to put card in my bio5 hat and flattery*

 

 

With the new update:

  • Any piece of equipment can be desocketed, including accessories and middle headgear. Lower headgear cannot be desocketed, just because..
  • Enchants, refine and cards are always preserved upon a successful attempt.
  • Chance of success is based on the ingredients used, there is chance to fail but nothing is lost in the process.
  • The New NPC will be taking Jeremy's job, Jeremy will bid us farewell.

 

This is not an event, it is an update to the existing desocket NPC.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:12 AM

good day everyone, i know some of you still curious about desocketing update

but you are just lazy to read some previous posts 

 

i have come with good idea~~.

tadaaaa~

 

by removing my signature gifs and replaced it with detailed answer from VMCinnamon

 

now, 

before you ask the same question again again again again and again.  :ani_glare:

before that question sparks a flame and burn the thread completely~~  :p_devil:

 

see the answer from VM or look at my signature.  


Edited by Silvianna, 04 December 2017 - 02:17 AM.

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 04:09 AM

perfect dodge doesnt affect skills '-'

and since the skill loses a % of hit rate as you distance yourself, yes you will pretty much miss anything regardless of your hit rate if you shoot from far


So this is basic range skill? Like AS, Cart cannon etc?
Its not like one of those skills that don’t miss even if you have 100pd like GFist?
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 04:27 AM

Hey.
I wanna ask about decarding.
Is it safe?
Will i lose my equipment?
How about the enchant?
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 04:28 AM

you can dodge Crushing Strike with 100pd because it is not a skill, but a buff for your next attack . still counted as normal attack

 

i can test if you can describe me the equipments to achieve 100pd, if you still curious on it.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 04:42 AM

no need to test i have ur answer. You can dodge it with PD, guard, kylie eleison, parrying and every single block skill you can think of. Crush strike is a buff to RK’s next melee hit so it’s technically not a skill but a selfbuff. Once it misses its still considered as used.


edit: o just realized you’re talking about slug. Also no need to test though. Straight attack Skills don’t get affected by PD at all, but it can miss by flee though, and that’s what ash is talking about. At further range, it suffers such a huge hit penalty that the skill just misses, not due to PD but by flee mechanism

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 05:39 AM

Afaik pdodge cant dodge crit. Dunno if the crush strike is delivered when it crits, pdodge will not be ableto dodge it.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 05:47 AM

good day everyone, i know some of you still curious about desocketing update
but you are just lazy to read some previous posts

i have come with good idea~~.
tadaaaa~

by removing my signature gifs and replaced it with detailed answer from VMCinnamon

now,
before you ask the same question again again again again and again. :ani_glare:
before that question sparks a flame and burn the thread completely~~ :p_devil:

see the answer from VM or look at my signature.

On mobile so can’t see signature? Will I lose gear? Can gear break? Should I decard? Why I want to decard? What should I decard? Please.

Edited by DieNasty, 04 December 2017 - 05:47 AM.

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