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#1 evotec

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:21 AM

Alright. I am so fed up off this looting going on. The way a first hit counts as everything to get priority.

Even if I win and get the MVP tag I cant pick up loot unless I first hit. Just like I MVP for the extra exp on a 99 char or a stupid ygg seed. What kind of <system> is this?

This NEEDS a re-work. And im guessing looting is not a bannable offense since nothing seems to be an offense. 

I have lost several 100s m zeny in items to people looting me by now and Im trying so hard not to sink to their level.

What if a card drops, and I win and cant loot it? 

 

Is the only solution really me sliding down to be a <potato merchant>?

 

Camp had some great ideas how to not make this any more toxic then what it is. Any updates on that?

Rewards as in pieces for rideword hat and flapping wings etc.

 

I have videos and screens on alot of what I call offenses if you would like to review that.

 

No CM responses please. 

 

 


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:31 AM

Hello, please do not bypass word filter. If you believe an user is being ill-mannered, please submit a support ticket. Campitor and Magus are not available until monday.


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#3 evotec

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:34 AM

edit* 

Just get a response.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:43 AM

The ticket system does work, most of the details I can't share, but it does indeed work effectively. The drop system is a bit more complex, and this ultimately requires the studio to change how loot priority works, and this could potentially have unintended results on normal monster loot, if it can be fixed, it's not an easy or fast fix.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:47 AM

The ticket system does work, most of the details I can't share, but it does indeed work effectively. The drop system is a bit more complex, and this ultimately requires the studio to change how loot priority works, and this could potentially have unintended results on normal monster loot, if it can be fixed, it's not an easy or fast fix.


LOL. The ticket system is trash.
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:51 AM

Iuno if I agree passion, 16 weeks to give you guys money. Id call that a trash system aswell, sorry. But this issue is not about that failure system. Keep it on topic.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:59 AM

The MVP system always has been lacking but at the same time it's only designated for killers not people supporting killers should MVP parties be out hunting.

I can't offer any suggestions other than comments to how the system needs to be overhauled but I'm so used to it being this way for so long I'm not sure it's worth changing.
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:08 AM

I have heard that comment for a long time now. "Its how it alwz was". 

I played on chaos for 10years~ and we never had these issues, mind you I mvpd alot back then aswell. I dont know. If you did loot someone the server knew about it. Guilds would not take you in etc.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:17 AM

Announce a new server and all the p server players want to get in on it. Can't expect anything better from those people. Sad thing is that it rubs off on their guild members to make matters worse. Then you have a full guild of bad apples running around the server.

 

Whats that saying if you can't beat them, join them. I don't mean join them. I mean stoop to their level.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:19 AM

I'm still waiting for a response from camp on that other thread about mvps. He just refuses to speak on it which I don't get.
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:39 AM

As some of the only few people MvPing in that server:
This is an actual problem and needs to be looked at. People abuse it way too hard and there is not really a way to „outplay“ that, because first one finding the MvP will loot 80% of the time, even though he might only do a quarter of the MvP's (player) damage.

 

edit: made it more clear


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:48 AM

It may be easier to make a party with shared loot on a second account.  Get the first hit use the second char to get the loot if you get to it in time. That sounds better than losing the loot every time.

 

I am OK with first hit.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:01 PM

It may be easier to make a party with shared loot on a second account. Get the first hit use the second char to get the loot if you get to it in time. That sounds better than losing the loot every time.

I am OK with first hit.


You have zero clue
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 01:30 PM

It may be easier to make a party with shared loot on a second account.  Get the first hit use the second char to get the loot if you get to it in time. That sounds better than losing the loot every time.

 

I am OK with first hit.

Sorry, you do have no clue. I am NOT ok with first hit. 


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:08 PM

Greed scrolls or a greed bag.   Get the first hit.  Just how it is sadly.   


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:53 PM

Maybe just try harder and do better
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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:04 PM

Maybe just try harder and do better

Okay! Thanks for the advice, cant believe I did not think of that!

 

Nah srsly, put that spoon somewhere dark and post if you got something relevant to say. That kind of comment just pisses me off.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:26 PM

Okay! Thanks for the advice, cant believe I did not think of that!

Nah srsly, put that spoon somewhere dark and post if you got something relevant to say. That kind of comment just pisses me off.

No problem I hope it helps you get more loot in the future, another tip, avoid zenorcs, I hear they pick up loot and may cause your loot to fall into another person's hands

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:34 PM

I think a culture developed early on in the Restart server to just loot first and worry about who got Mvp later.  It's definitely something that could be passed along to kRO in order to get a better system implemented.  The question is: what is to be done in the mean time?  Might want to consider disabling the MVP drops entirely until this can be solved. 


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:58 PM

I've gotten MVP on a few before and not get the loot.   Didn't see me on the forums crying over it.   


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

Keep it civil people, if you are not going to say anything useful to the conversation, please don't say anything, we want the staff to see all points of view and arguements.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:08 PM

The first tag should get the loot.  How I feel.  It sucks when you don't get it, but it makes it far to the other classes that MvP in the game.    


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:16 PM

I agree that I don't have a clue. Maybe because I do not MvP.

 

What I do know is that your up against auto teleport till monster is found and possibly even auto target.

 

Anyone playing legit will not find it as fast unless they get that lucky teleport.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:01 AM

BUMP

 

Alright its tuesday. That "not in the office" comment no longer stands.

Lets get an official answer.

 


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:13 AM

You realize its too early for them still? lol  I still believe the first hit gets it.    No reason to MvP on anything else other than a Monk if it goes by damage.   I'm not in the mood to leech a monk to 99 just so I can MvP.     Granted I forget to half the time anyways but still.  


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