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#176 zeywei

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:13 AM

Please remove  Brewer's range system .

 

And let brewers compete with their own routine / sales  - themself (like ... Brewing Instance ?)

 

1#st 's slim  goes beyond stellar price now (from 3000z to 3500 , then 4500z within months ) .

 

Over 10,000 alchemists in the game , why let only 1-4 people monopolized the market ???

 

I cant understand this mechanism at all .

 

I paid VIP like them , i played Alchemist like them .

I spent the same amount of ingredients per slim like them . Why only their slims got extra healing ???

 

Because they're veteran brewers and made more slims ?? They invested on God Items for extra DEX ??

New players cant brew stuffs like them because  they didnt have zeny to invest ??

 

This truly - absurd system should be removed .

People logged to this game to be FREE. 

Not to get locked inside another capitalism .

 

 

Please renew Brewing system.

 

Or just adding slims "home made" effect. 

 

- Characters in the same account got extra healing from brewer's slims

   (as the same amount of the 1#st range)

 

- Married Characters also share the same effect

 

 

 

People will create their own brewer for their  personal use , and then true competition begin if they want to make a fortune from slims.

 

- More Brewers  , more competition .

- Benefits to new players .

- You can made it to VIP only feature .

- WP lose nothing , only get more new players and more $ from VIP.

 

Please let me cook stuffs with enough Nutrient and feed my family instead of buying  expensive can foods. Thanks.


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#177 ShinobiEX3

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:48 PM

Please remove  Brewer's range system .
 
And let brewers compete with their own routine / sales  - themself (like ... Brewing Instance ?)
 
1#st 's slim  goes beyond stellar price now (from 3000z to 3500 , then 4500z within months ) .
 
Over 10,000 alchemists in the game , why let only 1-4 people monopolized the market ???
 
I cant understand this mechanism at all .
 
I paid VIP like them , i played Alchemist like them .
I spent the same amount of ingredients per slim like them . Why only their slims got extra healing ???
 
Because they're veteran brewers and made more slims ?? They invested on God Items for extra DEX ??
New players cant brew stuffs like them because  they didnt have zeny to invest ??
 
This truly - absurd system should be removed .
People logged to this game to be FREE. 
Not to get locked inside another capitalism .
 
 
Please renew Brewing system.
 
Or just adding slims "home made" effect. 
 
- Characters in the same account got extra healing from brewer's slims
   (as the same amount of the 1#st range)
 
- Married Characters also share the same effect
 
 
 
People will create their own brewer for their  personal use , and then true competition begin if they want to make a fortune from slims.
 
- More Brewers  , more competition .
- Benefits to new players .
- You can made it to VIP only feature .
- WP lose nothing , only get more new players and more $ from VIP.
 
Please let me cook stuffs with enough Nutrient and feed my family instead of buying  expensive can foods. Thanks.


Work harder to take over the spot. -.-
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#178 ParkWonJae

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:55 PM

does that improve marriage system contains expanded class baby type? small taekwon/small super novice/small rebel and ninja?


That's depends on kRO. The Improve Marriage have new family skill.
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#179 zeywei

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:06 PM

Work harder to take over the spot. -.-

 

 We come to play , not come to WORK .

 We have real job to work for , ( not gonna become job less like someone who keep inviting people to join ponzi scheme around ).

 

Food / comsumables exist for individuals , not only for singularity.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:16 PM

Another post of I work therefore I should be able to get the benefits that others work hard in game for.

 

Seriously, there are 10 -_- spots, brew them yourself and get on the board, only like the top five tend to actually try to be active on there, the others do it because why not.


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#181 zeywei

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:28 PM

Another post of I work therefore I should be able to get the benefits that others work hard in game for.

 

Seriously, there are 10 -_- spots, brew them yourself and get on the board, only like the top five tend to actually try to be active on there, the others do it because why not.

 

Actually many new brewers work much harder than the tops.

 

They hunting ingredients themself instead of sitting in town and let money work for them.

 

Do you need to join food competition just to make spaghetti for your kid  ??

 

Foods and comsunable is basis for living , in game its also the basis for playing.

 

The current Brewing system involved too much long past works (How long have you been playing this game ? / How many billion you have on gears / How long have you been selling your named potion ) .  This locked the whole competition and become permanent monopoly.

 

Outside of competition , many individuals just want to enjoy the brewing content . Making potions and  compete with their own . Rewarding from their own effort. 

 

In reality , people aging and gone -  thats what the rule of nature make it fair for new born .

In game , characters last there forever , if you apply the same traits it would only obstruct the new players from playing the content . Thats why you need law to control competition for everlasting entities like companies / organization.

 

You can only monopolized something when you have a patents. 

I cant see any patents inside those slim's ingredients. Everyone spent the same for 1 slim.

 

 

 


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#182 Nirvanna21

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:49 PM

Actually many new brewers work much harder than the tops.

 

They hunting ingredients themself instead of sitting in town and let money work for them.

 

Do you need to join food competition just to make spaghetti for your kid  ??

 

Foods and comsunable is basis for living , in game its also the basis for playing.

 

The current Brewing system involved too much long past works (How long have you been playing this game ? / How many billion you have on gears / How long have you been selling your named potion ) .  This locked the whole competition and become permanent monopoly.

 

Outside of competition , many individuals just want to enjoy the brewing content . 

 

In reality , people aging and gone -  thats what the rule of nature make it fair for new born .

In game , characters last there forever , if you apply the same traits it would only obstruct the new players from playing the content . Thats why you need law to control competition for everlasting entities like companies / organization.

 

You can only monopolized something when you have a patents. 

I cant see any patents inside those slim's ingredients. Everyone spent the same for 1 slim.

 

This is a game, not real life. People can and will play how the want. A hell of a lot of work goes into making the sheer amount of slims that the top tiers do. They are entitled to the bonus that comes with their goods. If you wanna get that bonus, do as they do, take the time to make stuff with bought ingredients rather than self farming and creating less.


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#183 zeywei

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:58 PM

This is a game, not real life. People can and will play how the want. A hell of a lot of work goes into making the sheer amount of slims that the top tiers do. They are entitled to the bonus that comes with their goods. If you wanna get that bonus, do as they do, take the time to make stuff with bought ingredients rather than self farming and creating less.

 

I have a simple question .

 

- How could 1000 Alchemists fitted in to those tiny 10 spots

- With the same Effort - How could the 2nd grant the same effect as the 1st ?

 

People can quit as they want either.  Singularity system should be removed . 

 

Instances exist to remove those system , everyone compete with their own.

Not devouring the others.

 

 

 


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:00 PM

I have a simple question .

 

- How could 1000 Alchemists fitted in to those tiny 10 spots

- With the same Effort - How could the 2nd grant the same effect as the 1st ?

 

People can quit as they want either. We saw it .

 

A- It doesn't matter, it's a ranking system, the whole POINT is that it is a competitive element with a reward to boot

B- What do you mean?

 

Of course people quit, but RO has proven time and time again that it is a digital phoenix.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:03 PM

Rune-Midgard is not a socialist kingdom, the kingdom supports a free and open market where hard work is rewarded and encouraged with equal opportunities for all adventurers.

Should you wish for handouts from the kingdom and strict regulations upon business and trade, the kingdom advises turning in your adventurer's credentials and becoming a No Proceeds Citizen, or NPC for short. NPCs are provided with wares to sell to adventurers on behalf of the kingdom and all proceeds from those sales are managed by the kingdom with dividends paid out between all NPCs equally.
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#186 ChakriGuard

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:04 PM

I say, you remove slims and put slim in Cash shop. End of the story.

 

I hate being poor in real life. Worse to be poor in game too.I'd probably shove a shotgun in the ass and blow myself up from this messed up world  :heh:


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#187 zeywei

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:07 PM

A- It doesn't matter, it's a ranking system, the whole POINT is that it is a competitive element with a reward to boot

B- What do you mean?

 

Of course people quit, but RO has proven time and time again that it is a digital phoenix.

 

A - Monopolization is not competition .

 

B - You told me to [do as they do] .

 

    2 persons did the same will they got the same reward ?

100 persons did the same will they got the same reward ?

 

 

 


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:09 PM

 We come to play , not come to WORK .

 We have real job to work for , ( not gonna become job less like someone who keep inviting people to join ponzi scheme around ).

 

Food / comsumables exist for individuals , not only for singularity.

your right and  just like u work ur butt off for food in real life dont expect a game which is pretty much simulating real life in some aspect of fantasy to just drop in the ur whims because of your opinionated feelings. Just like people do hours and hours in a shooter/rpg/and mmo games and feel a sense of accomplishment, dont reign down on their parade because its a tad bit too hard for you. >.> sheesh


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:12 PM

 We come to play , not come to WORK .

 We have real job to work for , ( not gonna become job less like someone who keep inviting people to join ponzi scheme around ).

 

Food / comsumables exist for individuals , not only for singularity.

 

I'm dumb at programming but is it possible to bot brewing? :p_devil:  :p_devil:  :p_devil:


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:13 PM

your right and  just like u work ur butt off for food in real life dont expect a game which is pretty much simulating real life in some aspect of fantasy to just drop in the ur whims because of your opinionated feelings. Just like people do hours and hours in a shooter/rpg/and mmo games and feel a sense of accomplishment, dont reign down on their parade because its a tad bit too hard for you. >.> sheesh

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:13 PM

A - Monopolization is not competition .

 

B - You told me to [do as they do] .

 

    2 persons did the same will they got the same reward ?

100 persons did the same will they got the same reward ?

 

A- Aside from Ren, who has made their RO life a slim provider, no one else monopolises anything, they put in the work, it's a competition essentially for the other 9 spots because no one is gonna beat Ren.

 

B- Ahh, if everyone did the exact same thing then it would be who is better, who wishes to sacrifice more time for their ranking. It's not like 10+ people are gonna spend 24/7 of their lives brewing. Not even enough materials in game to support this xD


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:15 PM

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Me engrishu is parfect fuyu shank u


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:19 PM

"I have a job and have less time to play an online game and stay competitive in a ranked system. Therefore, the logical solution is to abolish the said system because it does not suit my schedule."


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:19 PM

A- Aside from Ren, who has made their RO life a slim provider, no one else monopolises anything, they put in the work, it's a competition essentially for the other 9 spots because no one is gonna beat Ren.

 

B- Ahh, if everyone did the exact same thing then it would be who is better, who wishes to sacrifice more time for their ranking. It's not like 10+ people are gonna spend 24/7 of their lives brewing. Not even enough materials in game to support this xD

 

 

A - I'm not interesting in webboard politics.  If you want to debate please debate with pure reason.

 

B -  Please answer me simply [YES] or [NO]  ?


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:23 PM

A - I'm not interesting in webboard politics.  If you want to debate please debate with pure reason. Instead of bringing gangsters around.

 

B -  Please answer me simply [YES] or [NO]  ?

 

And we are done.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:26 PM

A - I'm not interesting in webboard politics.  If you want to debate lease debate with pure reason. 

 

B -  Please answer me simply [YES] or [NO]  ?

A:  - Your reason makes no sense, therefore you should get nonsensual answers.

 

B - I haven't played ro for almost or close to a year since i have a new career. I am still in the career but i am able to make time to relax and play a game. yet i still remember how hard it was to be considered the #1 food brewer in ro. right now i cant go back to it since it is too much work for me to do so, but i think it is asinine to suggest that things be easier as you say simply because i chose to have a full work schedule and now the game is to time consuming to reach anyway. I think you should read the entitlement theory. Maybe that will increased your opinions and thoughts. And on that note I disagree with you.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:34 PM

I didnt asking you .


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:41 PM

I didnt asking you .

And that is why you aren't taken seriously

Anyway on that note ill just say what a wise woman once said in this type of situations

 

KEKMAO

 

 

P.S. The correct sentence is, I didn't ask you!

You're welcome.

 

Credit to Fuyu and Nirv ^.^


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:18 PM

 

 

P.S. The correct sentence is, I didn't ask you!

You're welcome.

 

i'm proud of you, son...


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:30 PM

o_o; ....

 

Uhm, just gonna throw this out there:

 

The alchemist ranking gets reset on a semi-regular basis, so the current top 10 are at least somewhat recently active. This isn't decades of cumulative points on the /alchemist list right now. It was reset early last year IIRC. I can also think of 3 other brewing systems. The old school food cooking system, Geneticist +20 foods and SinX create EDP. If you think the ranked potion market is too hard to break into, try one of the other 3. Find out what else in demand and make it/farm it. Outside of brewing there's like 3,000 ways to make zeny on iRO and many of them don't involve setting foot outside of town/Eden. :P


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