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#1 SoulL1

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:00 AM

What's with the sudden price surge of Safe Certificates?

 

Is there some sort of an upcoming event?


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#2 JadeMountain

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:16 AM

not suddent,  you are too late to smell the change in the air

WPE/KP price up 's ripple effect finally reach lowest fruit of OCP items--->BM BB Gum cert

(throught u can get cert from eat gear, but major source are still OCP and HD box)  -- 

 

you can still farm ET or upgrade medusa's whip to trade with eat gear as 'self efficient' way


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#3 yamasakai90

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:53 AM

Rising price of KP/WPE Its now around 350m-400m+ per 1k on eden chat , inflation on almost every item, like +9 FAW worth 1b-1.3b+.

 

Increase cost of cash item (including safe certs) so it went up. Its like when the price of sugar increases, a lot of food items that consume sugar increases as well.


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#4 MikeWolf

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 11:28 AM

I honestly hope they re-release FAWs with a decent drop rate. Because Jesus Christ those prices way to much =_=

Rising price of KP/WPE Its now around 350m-400m+ per 1k on eden chat , inflation on almost every item, like +9 FAW worth 1b-1.3b+.

 

Increase cost of cash item (including safe certs) so it went up. Its like when the price of sugar increases, a lot of food items that consume sugar increases as well.

 


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#5 Amongluttony

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:39 PM

Rising price of KP/WPE Its now around 350m-400m+ per 1k on eden chat , inflation on almost every item, like +9 FAW worth 1b-1.3b+.

 

Increase cost of cash item (including safe certs) so it went up. Its like when the price of sugar increases, a lot of food items that consume sugar increases as well.

 

This happen in RE:Start the price increase from 250M to 450M~500M but at that point players stop buying kp stuff and WPE so the price decrease a little now the price is 300~350M.


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#6 ChaoticRK

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:54 PM

Cert shouldn't have a price increase. It's fake. Don't buy them. Just make your own.

 

I'd like to show some calculations but I'm too lazy. Just do it. It's not that hard.

 

Just like Oris on Chaos' it's too damn OP.


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#7 Amongluttony

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:39 PM

Cert shouldn't have a price increase. It's fake. Don't buy them. Just make your own.

 

I'd like to show some calculations but I'm too lazy. Just do it. It's not that hard.

 

Just like Oris on Chaos' it's too damn OP.

 

Is not fake at all, the price of Weapon cert is because the Oridecon price increase as well, and since players want to upgrade rods, staffs for the new OCP stuff and of course the slotted Gelerdria (i not sure if is the correct name of the RK weapon) so at least Weapon certs will increase for sure.


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#8 ChaoticRK

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:01 PM

Is not fake at all, the price of Weapon cert is because the Oridecon price increase as well, and since players want to upgrade rods, staffs for the new OCP stuff and of course the slotted Gelerdria (i not sure if is the correct name of the RK weapon) so at least Weapon certs will increase for sure.

 

Nope, doesn't work that way.

 

How much is the cost of each cert?

 

The economy is a lie. There is no increase or decrease of demand.

 

Will you trade a weapon cert for a body cert?

 

To each their own.


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:37 PM

Nope, doesn't work that way.

 

How much is the cost of each cert?

 

The economy is a lie. There is no increase or decrease of demand.

 

Will you trade a weapon cert for a body cert?

 

To each their own.

 

 

If you were to hunt your own safe certs, how much would you sell them for?


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:42 PM

safe 10 cannot be farmed hehe
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#11 mamagochi

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:54 PM

Be man, who uses cert when refining nowadays
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Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:16 PM

If you were to hunt your own safe certs, how much would you sell them for?

 

I don't. I buy them.


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:06 PM

I don't. I buy them.

 

So there is an economy. And there are prices I assume you will and won't buy for dependent on how much you think certs are worth. Unless you plan to buy them all, which means you have unlimited demand for certs. Or you buy the cheapest ones available, meaning that you will have to wait more because less certs are available at that price. If you buy for "average price" you are simply buying at the level most people are willing to do so.

 

Just because you chose to operate on either end of a normal distribution doesn't disprove the rule.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:07 AM

So there is an economy. And there are prices I assume you will and won't buy for dependent on how much you think certs are worth. Unless you plan to buy them all, which means you have unlimited demand for certs. Or you buy the cheapest ones available, meaning that you will have to wait more because less certs are available at that price. If you buy for "average price" you are simply buying at the level most people are willing to do so.

 

Just because you chose to operate on either end of a normal distribution doesn't disprove the rule.

 

As someone who farms them by doing ETs, I can totally agree. I don't see the incentive to sell for less or quickly. When people keep buying as soon as you put them up for sale, you know you can mark it up slightly higher and they still buy it. 

 

With the current inflation, not many people would be a Mr. Nice guy and say i'll keep it maintain at X price, cause thats what I feel it should be.

 

If thats the cause, gum should still be at 2m , bmx at 6m etc.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:52 AM

WIth more OCP gears in the server for upgrading the only stable economy currently is not hoard Enforcer Shoes (Lol) or any other items but Safe Certs.

And you can always farm/buy cheap weapon Certs and boxter them for the Body ones.
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#16 Schizzler

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:24 PM

As someone who farms them by doing ETs, I can totally agree. I don't see the incentive to sell for less or quickly. When people keep buying as soon as you put them up for sale, you know you can mark it up slightly higher and they still buy it. 

 

With the current inflation, not many people would be a Mr. Nice guy and say i'll keep it maintain at X price, cause thats what I feel it should be.

 

If thats the cause, gum should still be at 2m , bmx at 6m etc.

 

Haha, I see what you are saying. BMXs are so necessary to level with later on...  20 mill? Pfft.


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#17 Ward20th

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:25 PM

some people still vend there own items  with 50/50 no plans on selling them at all.(temporary or abandoned account) that's why they set the price by 300%.

when the real seller run out of stock, what left behind is the ppl what i'm mention. (mistaken as major price).

 

VIP service should take advantage of this (bcoz newbie noobs & hard core who buy few KP in there life time are taking advantage of this...they quickly catching up accounts who supports the game simply as that), aside from that old vip benefit "double Kafra storage"

 

they should add Non VIP cant vend more than -99m, where vip have -999m vend limit and (for vip active) cashop coupon(KP??) can vend -99B+. :heh: 

 

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there's no negative effect on this, because the free loader will end using the trading method via forum. 

if they get tired on this hassle method, they have no choice but to sacrifice the thing inside their wallet for them to afk vending in a amount of 999m gap limit.  it is same as the concept of VIP Exp/warp bonus where non VIP will double its works and effort to play. 

 

imagine they gonna purchase another VIP for that extra client just to sell the real 999m worth of item.


Edited by Ward20th, 07 March 2018 - 07:28 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:59 PM

Be man, who uses cert when refining nowadays

 

High Risk, High Return. Man Up and being ballsy is the true RNG way  :heh:
 


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 05:02 AM

high risk high return is when i smashed my only weapon from +9 to 10 using E.Elu thinking the rate increased

 

...it wasn't

 

and it was all risk in the end 


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#20 PervySageMarty

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 03:22 PM

 

[Poring]

I also agree that high risk gives high rewards. Yamasakai would know, they watched me upgrading.

And i try sell my wpe cheaper than the rest, if even i wouldnt buy it for its price, how can i expect people to buy from me? We all love a good deal and if i can charge less and end up eith a high rep, i think its a pretty good gain in the longrun, at least my customers will only increase, not decrease or be "one time buyers".


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:56 AM

On a related note, what is up with the crazy increase in BMX3 prices. Does anyone has insider knowledge that BMX3 from badges being removed?  /tin-foil-hat-equip


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:36 AM

ppls are just smarter nowadays. I for myself have like 30 safe to 10 certs right now from last months OCPs, and I won’t sell them with the current price tag. Instead I will wait till it hasn’t been in OCP boxes for a while, also refine event will affect when to sell boarded safe certs as well.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:01 PM

[Poring]

I also agree that high risk gives high rewards. Yamasakai would know, they watched me upgrading.

And i try sell my wpe cheaper than the rest, if even i wouldnt buy it for its price, how can i expect people to buy from me? We all love a good deal and if i can charge less and end up eith a high rep, i think its a pretty good gain in the longrun, at least my customers will only increase, not decrease or be "one time buyers".

 

The yolo upgrade....

 

Anyway I'm keeping most of my certs now. Who knows they might go higher?


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:13 PM

hoarding just means you will die rich instead of have fun now


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