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#26 theRagnarokDude

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 05:44 AM

Okay first lets define what were talking about.

According to the server files I have GFist has the following settings (In milliseconds if everything is consistent)
Fixed Cast Delay
0

Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000, 500, 1000, 1000, 1000, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
3000, 2500, 2000, 1500, 1000

Single Post Cast Delay
0

I have requested these same settings files from Thai for a comparison.

 

 

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#27 Ryuuz0

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 08:21 AM

@Campitor you did understand it wrong, i didnt mean that.
I was talking about , you cant use any Skill for 10 sec after using Gfist. It makes you just useless for whole 10 sec, and at that time every trans class gonna kill you.

Thats why the Thai server has just a 2-3 Delay instead of 10 sec , so i hope you can change it to 2-3 sec


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#28 Varcieh

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 12:30 PM

@Campitor you did understand it wrong, i didnt mean that.
I was talking about , you cant use any Skill for 10 sec after using Gfist. It makes you just useless for whole 10 sec, and at that time every trans class gonna kill you.

Thats why the Thai server has just a 2-3 Delay instead of 10 sec , so i hope you can change it to 2-3 sec


You can actually, you just cant get SP by any means possible. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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#29 Kashural

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 12:48 PM

You can actually, you just cant get SP by any means possible. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not even via profs soul exchange?

Will lvling in bio 3 even be possible then?
Kill - wait 10 sec - soul exchange - kill?

Would make the whole area lot less attractive.

Edited by Kashural, 14 March 2018 - 12:50 PM.

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#30 Patsu88

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 02:03 PM

Okay first lets define what were talking about.

According to the server files I have GFist has the following settings (In milliseconds if everything is consistent)
Fixed Cast Delay
0

Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000, 500, 1000, 1000, 1000, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
3000, 2500, 2000, 1500, 1000

Single Post Cast Delay
0

I have requested these same settings files from Thai for a comparison.

 

This answer shows you don't know things about the server you run, and thats embarrassing to say the least


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#31 Campitor

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 04:43 PM

This answer shows you don't know things about the server you run, and thats embarrassing to say the least

If someone asks me about cool downs I will let them know what the cool downs are. If someone asks about what the debuffs on a skill are we can talk about debuffs.

 

Testing what we can configure on our end there were two hopeful files for removing the debuff from the skill. Unfortunately they did not pan out when tested on Sakray. The studio has officially been asked for information on what the other REVO/RESTART servers have done with the skill.

 


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#32 Ryuuz0

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 05:08 PM

Just try to get it, before trans comes out. Remove the debuff please thanks!
or just ask the Thai server about it


Edited by Ryuuz0, 14 March 2018 - 05:09 PM.

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#33 Campitor

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 05:21 PM

Based on what the studio shared with me right now.

 

The Thai settings for the skill are as follows

 

Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
1000100010001000, 1000

 

SP Recovery Debuff 

3000, 3000, 3000, 3000, 3000,

 

 

I am asking what the time line would be to get the skill changed would be and we will conduct feedback polls about the skill so we have an idea of how long changes would take.


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#34 Ryuuz0

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 05:34 PM

Nice thanks man, that sounds really good. Makes the class not that useless


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#35 Kashural

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:29 AM

Based on what the studio shared with me right now.

 

The Thai settings for the skill are as follows

 

Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
1000100010001000, 1000

 

SP Recovery Debuff 

3000, 3000, 3000, 3000, 3000,

 

 

I am asking what the time line would be to get the skill changed would be and we will conduct feedback polls about the skill so we have an idea of how long changes would take.

 

Wouldn't it be possible to make the SP Recov Delay a map based one?

3 Sec debuff are still anoying for biolabs, ET, MvP etc.

 

Removing the debuff completly would overpower champs in WoE (for everyone wihtout a ghosty).

 

Why not make it a 0 sec delay in all maps but the WoE maps and make it a 3 sec delay there?
 


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#36 MyVictories

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:58 AM

Based on what the studio shared with me right now.

 

The Thai settings for the skill are as follows

 

SP Recovery Debuff 

3000, 3000, 3000, 3000, 3000,

 

 

I am asking what the time line would be to get the skill changed would be and we will conduct feedback polls about the skill so we have an idea of how long changes would take.

 

Yes, please. 3 seconds SP debuff (in woe) and maybe 2 seconds in every other map is pretty good, as the Thai settings show.

 


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#37 de1ls0n

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 12:48 AM

@Camp

 

 

Yea, GFist basically triggers that 10 seconds "buff" that locks sp restore (which was implemented after Renewal and mostly due the existence of +9 Glorious Fist, which makes GFist instant cast and Fury to instantly autocast Zen, making the skill ridiculously spammable). So it's basically being requested to either 1) lower that 10 second thing to 3~5 seconds OR 2) transform that 10 seconds into a GFist cooldown, which would allow sp to be regenerated and other skills to be used. Being useless for literally everything for 10 seconds is a lot...

exactly this, reduce wait time for sp recovery after using the gfirst ability in 5s, 5s is GOOD time.


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