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[Asmrow]

Things that bypass accuracy check:

Crits

Magic attacks

Perfect Hits

Cart Cannon

Dragon Breaths

iRO's item scripts

[Silvianna]

But what is actually broken about the 50% fixed cast time?

 

my problem is not on -50% fixed cast time,

after all i can easily nullify fixed cast time,

 

also Sacrament gives 50%, Celine has the same effect 

im okay with them, cause they are on their own effect.

 

this is one is not, this is BUG, this shouldnt exist.

however it can exist as long as it has benefit ?

 

my problem is,

first, this Item is Archbishop's Item, supposed to buff Archbishop

and exclusive for Archbishop, reducing Oratio  fixed cast time by 100%, thats pretty good for them

 

then its bugged, WP cant fix it so either to change or to fix

 

IF you want to change them, keep make it exclusive for Archbishop cause from the beginning the reason for the item

to exist is to Buff Archbishop.

can be changed to Heal skill, C Heal skills, etc as long as its for AB

 

what happened, WP changed it so everyone can get the effect, that devalue the item itself

another Free -50% fixed cast time to all skills for all classes, while the real effect supposed to buff ONLY one skill.

or if you want to change -50% fixed cast time, make it only AB can get the effect. 

 

second, WP made a change but not stated here, having Hidden effect ?

if no one test this before, no one would talk about this and the bug will exist Forever.

 

[CadburyChocolate]

It is not a bug if it was deliberately put on there. But yeah, the description should be corrected

[Nirvanna21]

Fair enough, if they can't get it to work I suppose the should remove it, they did it for other items.

[yosummer]

You Fixed The Def penetration? you sure?...

 

Every item that has def pene is not working when it exceeds 100 percent... those items are intended to stack because that's how they we're made if exceeds the limit it will miss...

 

Setting the Def penetration to 100 percent is not a good idea because most of the items are made for def penetration like Abusive, Pdemon, BSG, Enforcer Shoes and KVM weapons...

 

You just made the wrong decision to fixed the def pene to 100 percent because it will make other items CRAP!....

 

I think you should just cap def penetration to 175-225 because that is the most those gears with def pene will reach!

 

100 CAP is sure so wrong and unfair, but

[MrLekkz]

Campitor, dont listen to them. Valkyrie Drop is working as intended, i guarantee.

[CadburyChocolate]

Fair enough, if they can't get it to work I suppose the should remove it, they did it for other items.

or they can add the feature or customize just like what they did for flattery robe with cloak of survival or with the july 4th HG. Why not?

[Nirvanna21]

A nice idea could be to do it like so

 

Arch Bishop Only Effect

Reduces fixed cast time by 50%.

If Sacrament is Maximum level,

Reduces fixed cast time by 100%.

 

This would let early level ABs get 50% that they would otherwise get from Sacra, and then get full reduction for later levels.

[angelopaol1011]

if this will be fixed i expect the enforcer cape to get fixed also

[CadburyChocolate]

A nice idea could be to do it like so

 

Arch Bishop Only Effect

Reduces fixed cast time by 50%.

If Sacrament is Maximum level,

Reduces fixed cast time by 100%.

 

This would let early level ABs get 50% that they would otherwise get from Sacra, and then get full reduction for later levels.

Yup, a very feasible one.

 

WP should start considering buffing instead of just nerfing since Camp now knows how to edit item scripts

[Silvianna]

I dont have a problem with the reduction, they can include 100% fixed cast reduction item in the next ocp box

 

im okay with that but the problem here,

 

let me ask, to GX players, would you still agree IF, just IF, Enforcer Shoes bugged then they changed to effect to grant all classes lv 10 meteor assault skill 

you must feel hurt cause its supposed to be your exclusive buff and then WP gave to all classes.

 

even some RK players blame kRO about how easy they give their exclusive skill called Frenzy to GX and Ranger,

 

its important to keep exclusiveness in this matter.

 

Edited by Silvianna, 22 March 2018 - 07:16 PM.

[BlackMeow]

here we go again 

[CadburyChocolate]

I dont have a problem with the reduction, they can include 100% fixed cast reduction item in the next ocp box

 

im okay with that but the problem here,

 

lets me ask, to GX players, would you still agree IF, just IF, Enforcer Shoes bugged then they changed to effect to grant all classes lv 10 meteor assault skill 

you must feel hurt cause its supposed to be your exclusive buff and then WP gave to all classes.

 

even some RK players blame kRO about how easy they give their exclusive skill called Frenzy to GX and Ranger,

 

its important to keep exclusiveness in this matter.

okay so this is again about fenrir card

 

Bad logic though,

 

50% fixed cast time is something everybody should be able to get just as with variable casting, cast delay and aspd

Frenzy is not something you buff every player with

and i dont even know why you are talking about MA, the logic is way too off

[Silvianna]

Its not about Fenrir Card

 

its about, one item is bugged, the bugged part is supposed to buff one class

then you changed to buff every classes thats the nonsense part,

 

if the bugged part is for one class, if you want to change, change it to also buff that one class

 

if Soul Breaker effect on Enforcer Cape is bugged, change to buff Sonic Blow or whatever as long as it is for GX

cause its supposed to buff GX.

 

if the bugged part is for every classes, the replacement effect is should be every classes as well.

 

[CadburyChocolate]

Its not about Fenrir Card

 

its about, one item is bugged, the bugged part is supposed to buff one class

then you changed to buff every classes thats the nonsense part,

 

if the bugged part is for one class, if you want to change, change it to also buff that one class

 

if Soul Breaker effect on Enforcer Cape is bugged, change to buff Sonic Blow or whatever as long as it is for GX

cause its supposed to buff GX.

 

if the bugged part is for every classes, the replacement effect is should be every classes as well.

Then let it be the start, it's not a bad thing. Only you don't like it

[Silvianna]

 only Buff AB or no Buff at all

[SoulL1]

How about a compromise? Make it half for all classes like from 50% to 25% then increase the SP recovery to double from 50% to 100% SP Recovery each and make them able to stack.

[CadburyChocolate]

Nirvana has already one and he's just hurting over some nerfed OCP items he wanted so he's shouting for nerf in every single other OCP item whenever he has the chance

[ChakriGuard]

I dont have a problem with the reduction, they can include 100% fixed cast reduction item in the next ocp box

 

im okay with that but the problem here,

 

let me ask, to GX players, would you still agree IF, just IF, Enforcer Shoes bugged then they changed to effect to grant all classes lv 10 meteor assault skill 

you must feel hurt cause its supposed to be your exclusive buff and then WP gave to all classes.

 

even some RK players blame kRO about how easy they give their exclusive skill called Frenzy to GX and Ranger,

 

its important to keep exclusiveness in this matter.

 

Meanwhile, can you kindly ask Camp to make Imperial Feather and Imperial Glove RG exclusive items and make sure it is 2 after cast delay reduction now? Every RG will be happy to start spamming OB now xD

But yes, I understand where you're coming. I'm very neutral on this issue becasue even if it gives free sacra, I wont even use this acc. because I prefer nuke damage ie 2m+ cannon spear. So I will focus on offensive acc.s 

[CadburyChocolate]

let's make also the atk part of imperial set RG exclusive 

[SyrupRoast]

I think I'm with OP on this one; it really is unfair that the free sacra effect is available to everybody. Sort of makes AB's less needed and lowers the 'bar' that you need to reach before you can solo without one. 

 

50% FCT reduction was rare outside Sacra (unless you had lots of money to throw at celine set); now you can get it for the relatively low price of 70m. And it gives huge SP recov to boot.

 

Restrict it to ABs only?

A nice idea could be to do it like so

 

Arch Bishop Only Effect

Reduces fixed cast time by 50%.

If Sacrament is Maximum level,

Reduces fixed cast time by 100%.

 

This would let early level ABs get 50% that they would otherwise get from Sacra, and then get full reduction for later levels.

Good idea making it play around Sacra, but I think 50 - 100 is too strong. Maybe 20 -50 (ie, you don't need to cast sacra on yourself anymore if you have it maxed) would be better. Or 0-50; and everyone else gets 50% sp recov.

[Amongluttony]

Bugs, bugs and more bugs while in kRO ABs get a Giant fly wing skill to allow the AB to summon all his party to where he is (if they are in the same map), Adoramus and Renovatio skills become AoE skill, etc... i envy kRO players, they are test players too but they get fast fixes and new content fast u.u

[4853121207141913140]

why would 50-100 be too strong?

 

dps-wise 

 

holy light and judex 's fixed cast can be completely removed by temporal dex.

adoramus is all variable, with a 1 second cooldown

magnus has a huge damage delay between ticks

duple magic is a buff

 

as for buffs and debuffs, the more important and more used ones (Lex A. Ress. Stat Rec. Lauda/Fiber lock (bio5)

doesn't have fixed cast on them, mostly cooldown or huge aftercast delay

i ask again, why would it be 'too strong' ?

[mikkotinamide]

Even outside of AB, does this even buff any skill/class given that there are tons of OP accessories out there? And it doesn't even stack with +% fct, right?

[Nirvanna21]

The only two that jump out as being buffed would be Rebel and GX.