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#76 ENTIDADE

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:29 AM

Chakri have a point, if we have have 3 sets (one for magic, one for melee, one for ranged), player skill will be needed, and that's more balanced. So let's make GoH ranged reduction works properly hahaha


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 05:47 AM

Chakri have a point, if we have have 3 sets (one for magic, one for melee, one for ranged), player skill will be needed, and that's more balanced. So let's make GoH ranged reduction works properly hahaha


90% of people that plays this game don’t know what player skill is nor how to use fingers - 1 hot key is what they call “fun”. Lol FeelsBadMan
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:49 PM

Sad But True bro...


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:31 PM

Umm correct me if I'm Wrong, Ain't a skill called Magic Crasher there. Also for the sake of argument you go ahead and remove the GTB card effect how many players are going to be affected 100 or max 200 (On a very high scale).. In a server population of 1200 where x amount which is like 50% is bots and vend char. Also the fact that WOE is Dead. PVP players are like 60 out of which 20 max would be GTB users.

 

 

Now what will this nerf do? 
 

P.S: GTB card holders do share it along with some friends who want to go MVP hunting or Farming. 

 

So my end question is Just for a meager amount of people you cannot face in PVP you want to nerf a card. Bro you need to either learn to switch class and kick that person ass or you need to sit and Cry. 

Tomorrow Ranger class will get up and say Remove the skill of Pneuma from game or lang range Redux,..

 

BTW i once knew a Wizzie who would log in to a GX and Kill the GTB user... No Pun Intended


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:39 PM

i don't know lol. some people just red eye for gtb user? since u guys already said bring the op class shadow eq set but why not just keep the gtb?

 

as i already said before ? gtb user? just switch others class to kill that user?! but is useless to argue further anymore since already got immune ranged attack


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 06:23 AM

+1 to this nerf

 

makes woe and pvp more enjoyable


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 02:36 PM

Umm correct me if I'm Wrong, Ain't a skill called Magic Crasher there. Also for the sake of argument you go ahead and remove the GTB card effect how many players are going to be affected 100 or max 200 (On a very high scale).. In a server population of 1200 where x amount which is like 50% is bots and vend char. Also the fact that WOE is Dead. PVP players are like 60 out of which 20 max would be GTB users.

 

 

Now what will this nerf do? 
 

P.S: GTB card holders do share it along with some friends who want to go MVP hunting or Farming. 

 

So my end question is Just for a meager amount of people you cannot face in PVP you want to nerf a card. Bro you need to either learn to switch class and kick that person ass or you need to sit and Cry. 

Tomorrow Ranger class will get up and say Remove the skill of Pneuma from game or lang range Redux,..

 

BTW i once knew a Wizzie who would log in to a GX and Kill the GTB user... No Pun Intended

 

Loled on Ranger part.


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 07:21 AM

"Blablabla switch classes... GTB numbers based on nothing (info source??)... Remove pneuma from the game..."

 

Again, poor arguments that has already been discussed. Lets focus in the facts:

 

GTB nulifies magic and doesn't have a physical counterpart,

 

If you use Pneuma or SW wrong (cheaters don't count), or missclick a cell, u're probably dead,

 

With GTB you can move freely, with no consequences, and still can use SW or Pneuma with that,

 

All classes have some counters to pneuma and SW, if you can't kill the player, you still can debuff or let it stuck,

 

Sorc Spell Fist is the only hope, since Earth Strain divest has been nulified with no reasonable motive.

 

I think we can start with that.

 


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 07:29 AM

Talk that to illusion gear which is also nullified ranged
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Posted 15 July 2018 - 07:47 AM

 

"Blablabla switch classes... GTB numbers based on nothing (info source??)... Remove pneuma from the game..."

 

Again, poor arguments that has already been discussed. Lets focus in the facts:

 

GTB nulifies magic and doesn't have a physical counterpart,

 

If you use Pneuma or SW wrong (cheaters don't count), or missclick a cell, u're probably dead,

 

With GTB you can move freely, with no consequences, and still can use SW or Pneuma with that,

 

All classes have some counters to pneuma and SW, if you can't kill the player, you still can debuff or let it stuck,

 

Sorc Spell Fist is the only hope, since Earth Strain divest has been nulified with no reasonable motive.

 

I think we can start with that.

 

Since you basically just chosen to not listen to what any actually experienced player in interacting with the card has to say. I'll hop into what you want. If there was a phys counterpart for GTB, it would have the exact same use limitations, but reversed. But now you are immune to phys damage, you will get absolutelly wrecked by magic, because thats how much damage you take if you dont wear reductions, and you lose on many other perks. Nice card!


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 10:30 AM

Who gets wrecked by magic? Minus gioa. That card shouldn't exist.


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 12:43 PM

Magic damage is pretty darn strong atm(and even in the past), Gioia or not.


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 01:07 PM

Not that strong to justify GTB card, so we are in the start again.


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 01:15 PM

if all you can utter is that over and over and over, you have never played in a competitive scenario then. Wich means the validity of anything you say is just not existant. But keep going bro, if it makes you happy :)


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#90 Haroichi

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 04:01 PM

I even wear alice on many magic using boss since their damage is too dang high without alice lmao

There are many perks for a gtb user

Con is..

Non-gtb users who fail to see its limitations and just choose to whine tend to want to nerf it
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#91 ENTIDADE

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 05:36 AM

We're not talking about PVM here, focus.


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Posted 25 July 2018 - 10:31 AM

GTB card in Zero

 

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(Korean text means "reduce physical defense by 90%")


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Posted 25 July 2018 - 11:52 AM

you are 4 months late to this :T


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Posted 25 July 2018 - 02:35 PM

GTB card in Zero

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(Korean text means "reduce physical defense by 90%")


That card should not be nerfed that badly! Im all for nerfing the card, but doing that will drop its value to a few billion zenny. I can only hope that nerf never comes to thor and chaos.
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Posted 25 July 2018 - 02:40 PM

what is Ragnarok Zero stay at Ragnarok Zero! what is IRO Chaos stay as Chaos ! what is IRO Thor stay as Thor! as if the server not bad enough already! every hour got pub scammer in eden! eden population worse than ever!


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Posted 26 July 2018 - 04:59 AM

THIS PAGE ONLY TALKED BY PPL NONE GTB USER N ENVY PPL WHO HAVE GTB......hell yeah,...WHY U GUY NO JUST HARD WORK FOR THATS MVP CARD RATHER TALK ABOUT NERFED....

TOLD U WHY NOT NERFED OTHER GEAR TO IF NERFED GTB???

OTHER MVP HAVE OTHER POWERFULL FUNCTION..

TAO GUN KA DOUBLE HP...WHEN USED BY SUPPORT DORAM VERY2 POWERFULL

2X KIEL...SPAMMING SKILL...VERY2 FAST KILLING

GLOOM...INCREASE DEMAGE SO MUCH....

LK.....LOOK VIDEO 1M++ / HIT BY GX

 

HOW ABOUT OCP GEAR NOW?

DIDN'T TO POWERFULL TO?N STILL ASKING GTB TO CRAZY?WITH THATS PRICE NOW??

REQUEST BLOCK THIS PAGE PLEASE...

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 09:19 PM

im in for the nerf but not so much nerf.

 

90% magic damage reduction + debuff immunity seems fair.

 

or just stay as it is but put a better penalty other than making x2 sp cost.


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Posted 26 July 2018 - 09:41 PM

We're not talking about PVM here, focus.


Nerfing a card involves both pvm and pvp scenario tho o.o"


Your hatred for gtb is just plain biased, strategies were made to counter this card more than a decade ago if we're talking bout woe/pvpand here you are in 2018 still qq'ing about it lol


Git gud mate
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Posted 26 July 2018 - 11:51 PM

gotta make billion alts and run ET billion times bruh while jumping July leveling is in. you'll get one eventually. There's nothing you can do with nerfing the card since it's a game feature lol. I bet the developer regretted in creating the card on the first place.


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Posted 27 July 2018 - 01:08 AM

Try tanking a WL or Sorc without GTB and we will know why we have GTB hahaha
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