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[ChaoticRK]

100% ranged damage consistently is way better than 350% every 4 minutes.

Ok, I will rephrase it- It is a balance.

Although, if that could be done in the future. What would be the cost? Damage increasing buff needs a length. A timer. It shouldn't be just a buff that lingers. Well, coincidentally it's called No Limit. Maybe it's like a self-provoke skill? The swordie quest skill berserk? That when your hp% reaches a certain N% it goes in effect? Or every hp lost or hp total - current hp = damage increase%, that would be awesome.

[DataDrain]

Make no limits an active buff, make it 100% ranged damage as opposed to 350%.

 

Make edp force poison endow.

 

 

You do realize that what you quoted was a nerf not a buff?

 

 

100% ranged damage consistently is way better than 350% every 4 minutes.

 

 

Ok, I will rephrase it- It is a balance.

Although, if that could be done in the future. What would be the cost? Damage increasing buff needs a length. A timer. It shouldn't be just a buff that lingers. Well, coincidentally it's called No Limit. Maybe it's like a self-provoke skill? The swordie quest skill berserk? That when your hp% reaches a certain N% it goes in effect? Or every hp lost or hp total - current hp = damage increase%, that would be awesome.

 

Make No Limit Boost Trap damage too asides from Ranged Modifier, something like making bomb cluster damage mod from 700% to 7000%, Fire and Ice Traps 7x final skill damage modifier.

 

We need Trapper ranger build players regeneration besides Fuyuki, make it more appealing at least 

 

 

If Ranger damage is joke. What do you call Mech and RG damage?

 

MechaGodzilla and RektGod

Edited by DataDrain, 19 May 2018 - 06:16 AM.

[frosch99]

WL: Water, Earth, Fire, Air. Only the warlock can master the four elements, but when the world needed him most, He disconnected.

 

Doram: Every domesticated cat's wet dream

 

Sura: "What doesnt kill you makes you stronger"

 

Super Novice: ​T H E    M O S T   U S E L E S S   C L A S S  I N  T H E  E N T I R E    G A M E

 

Rebel: "I Can 360 no scope kill. but i can only do it 10 shots".

 

lol. super novice is not useless. they were fun to play
 

[ChaoticRK]

lol. super novice is not useless. they were fun to play

[Hissis]

Balance patch on RO in 2018 

 

 

TOP 10 :

 

1- SURA

 

2- DORAM

 

3~10 - REPEAT

[ChakriGuard]

Balance patch on RO in 2018 

 

 

 

TOP 10 :

 

1- SURA

 

2- DORAM

 

3~10 - REPEAT

 

No GX? Where is SC? lol

[LunaMoonBunny]

1st place - Doesn't matter because PVP and WOE are dead and PVM is an actual joke because of all the broken gear available regardless of what class you play

[Nirvanna21]

How to balance Sura? Apply reductions to the HP portions of the damage, you know, like how they did to DB? OR make the HP portions work like how Doram does. Period.

 

How to balance Doram? Make them susceptible to PLAYER reductions/effects.

 

How to balance SC? Add a 0.1 second CD to MASQ.

 

It's not hard guys. It's just hard for them.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 19 May 2018 - 09:23 PM.

[icchigosan]

Whats shield ?

 

already 2018 you dont use shield anymore.

you kill before killed, as simple as it is.

 

 

GX doesnt use shield = they must be weak
SC doesnt kill in WoE = they must be weak

 

i would really like to see all gene,rg and all other classes those use shield,made their skills only be casted with 2h weapons like gx,gunslinger

 

lets analyze

 

1> gx
can't wear shield
need edp to stay relevant [considering rc and crs]

weight issues

slow walk unless you cloak exceed

very small aoe of 5x5

skills doesnt ignore flee

only reduc is the armor and garment

nerfed ocp

 

2> gene

can wear shield

dmg in par with edp gx if not more

free gym pass

attached kafra storage with you all the time [cart]

infinite speed potion

aoe is ranged

skills ignore flee

have homun with epic reduc [pk] or epic buff[pyroclastic]

cylinder - instant cast and mostly huge sp consumption reduc

 

3>Rg

can wear shield

dmg in par with edp gx if not more

walks faster than gx

tons of aoe options with relatively high range

epic ocp set

tons of reduc from just skills

huge hp pool

 

 

it is clear why rg and gene skills should only be casted with 2h weapons like gx,gunslinger to balance the game

 

Edited by icchigosan, 21 May 2018 - 01:08 AM.

[icchigosan]

How to balance Sura? Apply reductions to the HP portions of the damage, you know, like how they did to DB? OR make the HP portions work like how Doram does. Period.

 

How to balance Doram? Make them susceptible to PLAYER reductions/effects.

 

How to balance SC? Add a 0.1 second CD to MASQ.

 

It's not hard guys. It's just hard for them.

 

How to balance RG? make max damage reflections caped at 30%,cap DA to 30% reduction with huge penalty on aspd 

How to balance pvp and woe? ban all mvps and gods

[Nirvanna21]

How to balance RG? make max damage reflections caped at 30%,cap DA to 30% reduction with huge penalty on aspd 

How to balance pvp and woe? ban all mvps and gods

 

MVP and Gods aren't the issue :U

[Bohem]

i would say 

 

1. gx

2. sura

3.rg 

4. whoever has more MVP card & OCP items

5. doesn't really matter at this point

6. still reading?

7. you must have a lot of time on your hand..

8. who is excited for next OCP?

9. may be i could put HIGH NOVICE here

10. poring

 

just my 5 cents

Edited by Bohem, 21 May 2018 - 06:08 AM.

[ChakriGuard]

How to balance RG? make max damage reflections caped at 30%,cap DA to 30% reduction with huge penalty on aspd
How to balance pvp and woe? ban all mvps and gods

Do you even play RG? :v

[DataDrain]

How to balance RG? make max damage reflections caped at 30%,cap DA to 30% reduction with huge penalty on aspd 

How to balance pvp and woe? ban all mvps and gods

 

 

Do you even play RG? :v

 

Icchigosan with his huge zangetsu and tattered clothes definitely not part of King Schmidt Prestigious order of RGs :v

[Hissis]

No GX? Where is SC? lol

 

Oh i forgot about SC, he is number 3

 

How to balance Sura? Apply reductions to the HP portions of the damage, you know, like how they did to DB? OR make the HP portions work like how Doram does. Period.

 

How to balance Doram? Make them susceptible to PLAYER reductions/effects.

 

How to balance SC? Add a 0.1 second CD to MASQ.

 

It's not hard guys. It's just hard for them.

 

Pretty much that, can be easily done in 5 minutes but takes 10 years to gravity.

 

It's sad to even think about how easy this is.

[MrNaise]

for me: (After OCP/True Cards)

1. Shura 

2. Physical Doram

3. IB RK (3 True Seyren on Tens Red = RIP

4. RG [EB] / CS RK (both can always one shot you if it crits)

5. CR WL (have 4 True KK cards and you can mostly one shot anyone)

6. CI/CRS GX (same with CR WL, better to dual wield to maximize damage of CI)

7. SC (When I play DB RK I always run whenever I see them)

8. Sorc 

9. Tetra WL

10. Ranger (Only if NL is activated after that, meh..)

 

Before Cats/OCP and True Cards

1. Shura

2. EB RG/CS RK

3. Tetra WL

4. DB RK

5. Sorc

6. SC

7. Ranger

 

 

[mamagochi]

GM

[ChakriGuard]

i would really like to see all gene,rg and all other classes those use shield,made their skills only be casted with 2h weapons like gx,gunslinger

 

lets analyze

 

1> gx
can't wear shield
need edp to stay relevant [considering rc and crs]

weight issues

slow walk unless you cloak exceed

very small aoe of 5x5

skills doesnt ignore flee

only reduc is the armor and garment

nerfed ocp

 

2> gene

can wear shield

dmg in par with edp gx if not more

free gym pass

attached kafra storage with you all the time [cart]

infinite speed potion

aoe is ranged

skills ignore flee

have homun with epic reduc [pk] or epic buff[pyroclastic]

cylinder - instant cast and mostly huge sp consumption reduc

 

3>Rg

can wear shield

dmg in par with edp gx if not more

walks faster than gx

tons of aoe options with relatively high range

epic ocp set

tons of reduc from just skills

huge hp pool

 

 

it is clear why rg and gene skills should only be casted with 2h weapons like gx,gunslinger to balance the game

 

How did i Miss this post lol

 

1> gx

can't wear shield

Why you need a shield when monsters drop dead in a second?

need edp to stay relevant [considering rc and crs]

Ok

weight issues

So does every class

slow walk unless you cloak exceed

Learn how to backslide

very small aoe of 5x5

But no cast time, small after cast delay = constant realiable DPS

skills doesnt ignore flee

But Crit ignores

only reduc is the armor and garment

Back to #1. Why do you need reducs when you kill monsters in few seconds?

nerfed ocp

Like other class OCPs

 

3>Rg

can wear shield

At cost of ASPD

dmg in par with edp gx if not more

Go try solo RG ET without Gods and MvPs and come tell me if you can finish it. I can just lend my friend GX and it will be my first time to do ET with GX and I bet that i will go much farther than RG. I might even compete ET without Gods and MvPs.

walks faster than gx

Ride vs Backslide? Backslide wins if you know what you're doing.

tons of aoe options with relatively high range

Yes. Cannon spear 2 seconds fixed coodown, has to line up, people complain of failing to hit miss due to aiming. OB, yes 2 seconds after cast delay. Nothing here is spammable.

epic ocp set

You mean the epic nerf that they simply removed 2 second after cast delay reduction from Imperial Glove?

tons of reduc from just skills

Yes, at a cost of low damage. So R G has reduc skills jsut tot ank and die anyway when they run out of slims to pot because they cant kill or kill Agi-up monsters. Only Pinpoint works but it has a long cooldown.

huge hp pool

Doesnt GX and RG have the same HP pool?https://irowiki.org/wiki/Max_HP

 

I thought I was crazy to think that GX was OP because they're everywhere. Then I realized, most people who dont play GX also think the same.

Mind you, maybe you're right that GX is weak and that's why only few smart people dont play such a weak class like GX and the rest is dumb because they pick noob class GX      

 

Edited by ChakriGuard, 21 May 2018 - 07:19 PM.

[Nirvanna21]

 

How did i Miss this post lol

 

1> gx

can't wear shield

Why you need a shield when monsters drop dead in a second?

Not all do

need edp to stay relevant [considering rc and crs]

Ok

Both Correct

weight issues

So does every class

What issues, this class gets 120str usually :I, trying playing a Ranger

slow walk unless you cloak exceed

Learn how to backslide

Chakri's Correct

very small aoe of 5x5

But no cast time, small after cast delay = constant realiable DPS

Chakri's Correct

skills doesnt ignore flee

But Crit ignores

Completely irrelevant considering you are talking about RS above, even if you used MA or CRS, there is no way for these skills to perfectly hit unless you own certain items.

only reduc is the armor and garment

Back to #1. Why do you need reducs when you kill monsters in few seconds?

Again, not every monsters die that quickly

nerfed ocp

Like other class OCPs

Only five items to date have had a nerf applied. Some effects are irrelevant because jRO and iRO have different mechanics.

 

3>Rg

can wear shield

At cost of ASPD

dmg in par with edp gx if not more

Go try solo RG ET without Gods and MvPs and come tell me if you can finish it. I can just lend my friend GX and it will be my first time to do ET with GX and I bet that i will go much farther than RG. I might even compete ET without Gods and MvPs.

walks faster than gx

Ride vs Backslide? Backslide wins if you know what you're doing.

tons of aoe options with relatively high range

Yes. Cannon spear 2 fixed coodown, has to line up, people complain of missing it. OB, yes 2 seconds after cast delay. Nothing here is spammable.

epic ocp set

You mean the epic nerf that they simply removed 2 second after cast delay reduction from Imperial Glove?

tons of reduc from just skills

Yes, at a cost of low damage. So R G has reduc skills jsut tot ank and die anyway when they run out of slims to pot because they cant kill or kill Agi-up monsters. Only Pinpoint works but it has a long cooldown.

huge hp pool

Doesnt GX and RG have the same HP pool?https://irowiki.org/wiki/Max_HP

 

I thought I was crazy to think that GX was OP because they're everywhere. Then I realized, most people who dont play GX also think the same.

Mind you, maybe you're right that GX is weak and that's why only few smart people dont play such a weak class like GX and the rest is dumb because they pick noob class GX      

 

 

TLDR, Gene's have plenty of Pros and GX is not the be all end all, but even Gene's can suck (looking at Toxic Chimera).

[ChakriGuard]

TLDR, Gene's have plenty of Pros and GX is not the be all end all, but even Gene's can suck (looking at Toxic Chimera).

Well Gen is OP but at least people are not trying to buff it or say Gen sucks or something f lol

[Nirvanna21]

Well Gen is OP but at least people are not trying to buff it or say Gen sucks or something f lol

 

How to perfect perfection?

[awesomegeek]

Make edp force poison endow.

iRO Renewal Balance Suggestion of The Year. LMAO.

(to clarify I'm being sarcastic not hating)

[ChakriGuard]

How to perfect perfection?

Born Spartan

[raykayser]

^{1) Gx can solo all} 

^{2) Ranger with correct build U can get the best dps in the game}

^{3) RG High DPS, High Defence}

^{4) Warlock 4x4} 

^{5) Rebell Glass Cannon but Hyper DPS}

^{6) Gene mid dps but can solo all too}

^{7) Maestro / Gypsy Pretty High DPS and have a lot of buffs}

^{8) Chasser Need a lot of money to start do good dps}

^{9) Mechanic}

^{10) Kageru}

[YongkySH]

Gene at 6??