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#1 bielzinpk

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Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:30 PM

Guys, ragnarok mobile made me want to come back again despite the issues I have with ping so here we are.
I'm a 148 DB RK and with all the new and old RK gears I'm a bit lost on gear progression so I want to ask you guys for help with that.
Right now I have:
+7 Cursed Book
Dark Blinder
Toy Syringe
+9 Evil Dragon Armor {Evil Druid Card}
+6 Thanatos Hammer {Hunter Fly Card} (For now, I still haven't tested to see how well it works, I have a +0 Tae Goo with EA3 on storage)
Some Racial Shields
+9 Giant Faceworm Skin Scale {Special Vit, Vit 10, Raydric Card}
+4 Temporal Dex Boots {Expert Archer 4, Muscle Fool}
Ur's Seal {150sp, Spore Card}
Rock Ridge Sheriff Badge

Right now I've set a store with about 400-500m in loot so I may have that amount available to spend in some time.
I want tips, recommendations and ideas on how to follow with the build, what should I upgrade step by step on a priority order, and if I may ask, recommendations on how to farm more money as a DB RK(I have a 172 GX which share most of the gear but the thing is I have a connection problem which makes it almost impossible for me to spam RC or potions, reducing my efficiency too much so I don't like playing with him, that's why I chose RK).

Right now I'm pondering if getting the storm stone combo is a good idea, not sure what to do.
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Posted 26 July 2019 - 12:57 AM

+7 fafnir scale --- 50% HP/SP 50% DB 30% Range(DB) 30% Cast Delay (WDB) something to aim for

+9/10 Mysterious Muffler[1] almost have the damage of FAW but a little affordable

+9 temp dex[1] and put firelock for the footgear.

for weapon you can have mace[4] and put Archer Skeleton Card for damage then swap to your thanatos for hp leach when needed

for accessory either fairy leaf powder[1] for range damage and cast delay or valkyrie drop[1] for sp regen, cast delay and cast time but ur seal[1] works fine

 

nothing much recommendation but dont aim for too much cast delay reduction at the beginning since it wont help, you cant chain at that level much worst if you cannot do it. and toy syringe works wonder. you can purchase slims at guild area in north prontera during weekends at almost 4k each???


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Posted 26 July 2019 - 01:16 AM

use this on your GX to spam RC

 

https://forums.warpp...ng-rc-using-q2/


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Posted 26 July 2019 - 12:59 PM

+7 fafnir scale --- 50% HP/SP 50% DB 30% Range(DB) 30% Cast Delay (WDB) something to aim for

+9/10 Mysterious Muffler[1] almost have the damage of FAW but a little affordable

+9 temp dex[1] and put firelock for the footgear.

for weapon you can have mace[4] and put Archer Skeleton Card for damage then swap to your thanatos for hp leach when needed

for accessory either fairy leaf powder[1] for range damage and cast delay or valkyrie drop[1] for sp regen, cast delay and cast time but ur seal[1] works fine

 

nothing much recommendation but dont aim for too much cast delay reduction at the beginning since it wont help, you cant chain at that level much worst if you cannot do it. and toy syringe works wonder. you can purchase slims at guild area in north prontera during weekends at almost 4k each???

 

I tested the Thanatos one today and although SP almost never runs out it's kinda weak on the HP leech unfortunately, so i guess i have to pick a 4xHF weapon. After that i'm thinking about going straight to Fafnir then as it seems to be a very huge damage boost and isn't too much expensive right now at least, thanks for answering.

 

use this on your GX to spam RC

 

https://forums.warpp...ng-rc-using-q2/

 

That's actually really helpful, works with slims too, thank you.


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Posted 26 July 2019 - 11:25 PM

Ok guys, i've quickly realized that i lack damage on anything that's not weak to water/fire if i use a malicious weapon, i have a 3xAS RTE with EA4 so i'm fine.

 

Here's the thing though, i don't have a malicious set and/or a blood sucker/tengu scroll to compensate for the loss of hunter fly/thanatos, EDA by itself doesn't proc enough or heals enough to be worth using.

 

Since that's the case, i thought about getting rid of the EDA, switch my Enforcer Shoes for a Temp STR, get some more money and just straight up get a RBDH and just rely on potions/switching for a 4xHF weapon. Is that a good idea? I wish i could just straight up get a Fafnir Scale but i'm unemployed living in Brazil(economy has been stagnated for about 10 years, 13% unemployment rates, right now we're waiting for a possible pension reform approval so we can have other reforms and start growing again, -_-'s wild) and so i can't buy KPs(sorry for the venting). Anyway help me please.


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Posted 27 July 2019 - 05:26 AM

get +9 vana if you can't one hit, cath von blood if you can kill mobs in 1-3 hits. 

i don't use rbdh for leveling except when i'm on a party with a wandy (for gypsy's kiss) for bio4 leveling. 


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Posted 27 July 2019 - 05:52 AM

it's not about 1shotting, Cath usage depends solely on resources spent vs mobs killed within that amount. Even if you had to use the skill 10 times, if you group enough monsters to trigger the effect in that, it will still be worth it.


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 08:17 AM

Is mysterious muffler better than faw?


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 12:42 PM

Yes it is. Dmg wise is unnoticeable and it offers additional goodies
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Posted 06 September 2019 - 12:17 AM

+9 or higher Mysterious give Moonlight card effect  (always have moving speed same as on Increase Agi)

 

so you can running around and DB 


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Posted 06 September 2019 - 01:58 PM

you also get cloaking level 3


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Posted 07 September 2019 - 08:01 AM

Cloaking Lv.3 require to +10 it  but on RK case  it's not necessary  since you're running around and spam DB   so at least +9 for Move speed   

 

save Zeny to buy other stuffs


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Posted 07 September 2019 - 08:34 AM

+10 Mysterious Muffler is for cowards GoH Suras  :heh:

 

For your SP issues you can try +9 Vana Helm or Catherina Von with Carat as some players said already but as you mentioned, you have around 500m which means these headgears aren't accesible for you yet.. which means you will have to work to get the zeny for your gears.

 

Some ways to get zeny are Guild Dungeon investment system (for zeny you get various mats or supplies) that can be reselled for good zeny or join an active pvm guild is a good idea, usually they run ET,bio4/5, malangdo, OGH or instances.


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Posted 08 September 2019 - 12:13 AM

Best thing to aim for would be the +7 fafnir it is single handley the biggest boost to DB dmg they are currently go for around 3.5b-4b its def worth its cost.


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Posted 09 September 2019 - 09:06 PM

Best thing to aim for would be the +7 fafnir it is single handley the biggest boost to DB dmg they are currently go for around 3.5b-4b its def worth its cost.

 

Dragon breath damage just sucks without it  -_-"


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 01:57 AM

not really


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 02:24 AM

DB has been more than fine for many years prior to it even existing '-'
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Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:21 AM

not really

Well,  in away that is true, is just that every thing else was blown up - monster health , monster damage . 

With OCP gears ( forced meta ) for each classes unless they are equipped with them they are not able to do  TI's.

 

I am a level 137 RK with 53k HP - 2.8k SP   - with hp/sp increas pots and even with all that i do barely 13k damge per hit on TI mobs.

 

I under the impression in the past Dragon breath formula ignored monster defences which is why it was able to do consistent damage regardless .

 

On a 100% elemental damage  say like a neutral damage type .. i do something lik 26-K damage . 

 

It would have been fine if i did the same consistent damage on all monsters .

 

Anyone saying DB damage is fine hasnt played DB without OCP gears - RECENTLY - with Recently being the Operative word.


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:54 AM

uhhhhhh



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Posted 10 September 2019 - 02:45 PM

uhhhhhh



wat

 

Is that not how it worked before ?

 

I only knew of it  from experience in woe , never played one before


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 02:49 PM

DB RK has been a solid pvm class for many years, of course it is the strongest it's ever been right now, but it was always more than capable of being a very good pvm class. At most, in the much further past, when delay reduction wasnt as avaiable as it is now, the difference between a top1% with kiel cards and someone who didn't was indeed much larger, but that's about it.


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 03:02 PM

Well,  in away that is true, is just that every thing else was blown up - monster health , monster damage . 

With OCP gears ( forced meta ) for each classes unless they are equipped with them they are not able to do  TI's.

 

I am a level 137 RK with 53k HP - 2.8k SP   - with hp/sp increas pots and even with all that i do barely 13k damge per hit on TI mobs.

 

I under the impression in the past Dragon breath formula ignored monster defences which is why it was able to do consistent damage regardless .

 

On a 100% elemental damage  say like a neutral damage type .. i do something lik 26-K damage . 

 

It would have been fine if i did the same consistent damage on all monsters .

 

Anyone saying DB damage is fine hasnt played DB without OCP gears - RECENTLY - with Recently being the Operative word.

 

"Forced meta" doesn't exist lol and 13k damage with your current HP/SP pool depends of which monster element are you fighting (could be water or holy).

 

We can help you with your RK if you want but i don't know what are you looking for exactly, more damage, more dps?


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 03:17 PM

"Forced meta" doesn't exist lol and 13k damage with your current HP/SP pool depends of which monster element are you fighting (could be water or holy).

 

We can help you with your RK if you want but i don't know what are you looking for exactly, more damage, more dps?

 

in the past did DB not do same damage regardless of element ?

 

will using Provoke on monsters affect DB damage?

 

current high TI , Skogul - shadow , lichtern - water 


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 03:40 PM

dragon breath treats all def as soft def, technically provoke will increase the damage, in like 2 digits tops.

In the past as in like 6 years ago already? Back then pretty much every class had a lot, lot, LOT, lower damage. Even if DB wasnt as high, it was still high enough to be able to kill stuff in pvm without much effort. It's damage being "static" aside HP/SP also meant that the entire gear set you would strive for was different. RKs running full leech sets with 4x hunter fly weapons and things like that made them extremely durable pvm classes, as if the class defenses and HP wasnt enough.


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 04:27 PM

DB RK max potential hasn't really changed, but its been playable for casuals only in past 2-3years (Basically since OCP). 

 

It is true that it's damage can be still great back then (fafnir scale is probably only a small improvement if you had 1/2 kiels and a tao on a VIT6 or Dex6 robe). However, this damage was not accessible to anyone not willing to chap out like 200B for those items. There was practically no other options in between. Look, kiel gave you 30% delay reduction, and then if you don't have that, what else can you get? The most you could go was heart wing hair band and some sarah earrings, which caps you at 50+% delay reduction. And for damage, without tao, what else can you get? Peco card is 10% of what tao gives.

 

So it's either you're goddamn OP or you're basically nothing unless your lizard ass is permanently glued to strings.

 

It just became a more accessible choice now since you no longer need to pay a kidney's price to play DB RK at its "great damage". Only problem is that all of these new equipment are straight up cash shop. Would've been great if some of it were content items.


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