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#26 Lynreve

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Posted 24 February 2021 - 02:42 AM

We were once their profitable server, ain't we? What have they done to us when we were in that position? Who ruined us?

 

Damn sad to see everyone is ahead of us when we could be better but not given a chance to do so.

That stopped being true post-2012.

 

That Xmas event with WOE mvp basically killed everything.

I wasn't active at that time. Care to clarify?

 

The main thing that ruined the server was the 3 month hiatus and the opening of the RT server. This caused 2 things, people quitting the server and once it came back, the population was already diluted between iRO Chaos and RO:T, causing a domino effect of more people quitting. Not to mention that EAC made the game really slow in terms of performance, you cannot longer open multiple ro clients with ease. It's funny and sad at the same time that such a  game as Ragnarok Online, can consume a lot of PC resources like a triple AAA game or even more if you open a couple of accounts. Also, it feels laggy/slow when it comes to the action input, things like the combination of /bangbang and /bingbing with backslide are no longer smooth to do like it used to be. 

You forgot the great Eurexit.

 

You smell money corruption or what? Spit it out

There's no corruption, at least not on a financial scale.

 

The server isn't abandoned, just not as prioritized as the other ones since those rake in more money. That's perfectly acceptable considering Gravity is still a business. It couldn't be helped.


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Posted 24 February 2021 - 07:08 AM

We were once their profitable server, ain't we? What have they done to us when we were in that position? Who ruined us?

Damn sad to see everyone is ahead of us when we could be better but not given a chance to do so.


Lots of mistakes WP has made but I'd say it's everyone's fault?

My main fault was that I didn't push hard enough to explain why Xmas event 2018 was a very bad horrible idea. Since then we never reached 3k plus population ever again, but the population has been gradually in decline despite iRO has been getting updates faster compared to the past.
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#28 Valtios

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Posted 24 February 2021 - 07:33 AM

You forgot the great Eurexit.

Even though this was very controversial, the server still didn't see a lot of change. I remember seeing the same "good numbers" of people online, 2k-2.5k a couple weeks before the 3 month hiatus. Most of the people that play iRO are from America and Asia.


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Posted 24 February 2021 - 12:10 PM

Lots of mistakes WP has made but I'd say it's everyone's fault?

My main fault was that I didn't push hard enough to explain why Xmas event 2018 was a very bad horrible idea. Since then we never reached 3k plus population ever again, but the population has been gradually in decline despite iRO has been getting updates faster compared to the past.


Campitor give this guy gioia card already.
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Posted 24 February 2021 - 12:25 PM

Even though this was very controversial, the server still didn't see a lot of change. I remember seeing the same "good numbers" of people online, 2k-2.5k a couple weeks before the 3 month hiatus. Most of the people that play iRO are from America and Asia.


Total playerbase affected wasnt a big percentage, but in specific niche, woe, it removed a few guilds entirely, wich creates the domino effect for more to stop playing.
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Posted 24 February 2021 - 01:12 PM

Campitor give this guy gioia card already.


I don't think giving me Gioia or Gioia farmers would bring them back to WoE or population back to 3k again, though esp given that if I wanted it, I could have it easily lol

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Posted 24 February 2021 - 01:17 PM

You forgot the great Eurexit.


I think that mostly affected Classic. Remember Chaos still had around 3k'ish by 2018?
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Posted 24 February 2021 - 02:09 PM

even we get all those updates like lv185 the outcome is the same, once player reach max level at short time people will demand more updates and they will say we are abandoned, and as for eac just like i said before hiatus eac ruins everything but most people ignored them and support putting eac and look at them now all people who use visual pc on their mac book cant play iro even those a high pc too because of error , as for me those GM can do whatever they want but they should think about it before they move on , just go with the flow on whats gonna happen in iro we know that we are busy on other games we cant just dwell only in iro (im not saying dont play iro) waiting and waiting for updates just to at least catch up to kro...
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#34 Lynreve

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Posted 24 February 2021 - 06:21 PM

I think that mostly affected Classic. Remember Chaos still had around 3k'ish by 2018?


No.
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Posted 24 February 2021 - 06:31 PM

even we get all those updates like lv185 the outcome is the same, once player reach max level at short time people will demand more updates and they will say we are abandoned, and as for eac just like i said before hiatus eac ruins everything but most people ignored them and support putting eac and look at them now all people who use visual pc on their mac book cant play iro even those a high pc too because of error , as for me those GM can do whatever they want but they should think about it before they move on , just go with the flow on whats gonna happen in iro we know that we are busy on other games we cant just dwell only in iro (im not saying dont play iro) waiting and waiting for updates just to at least catch up to kro...


Did korean server also use eac?
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#36 Valtios

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Posted 24 February 2021 - 09:29 PM

Did korean server also use eac?

They use a different type of software. They use nProtect GameGuard.


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Posted 24 February 2021 - 11:01 PM

I heard AHK is blocked there, must use built-in macro mouse

So in that case we are better (?)

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Posted 25 February 2021 - 03:44 AM

lul, ROM > all server tbh so it isn't about revenue


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#39 Lynreve

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Posted 25 February 2021 - 04:31 AM

lul, ROM > all server tbh so it isn't about revenue

2.0 just released today. I'm a little put off by it since I can't find the assistant growth plans, but other than that I am enjoying it immensely. It's definitely all about revenue though. What sane business wouldn't liquidate an asset that is nothing more than salvage value now?


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Posted 25 February 2021 - 01:24 PM

I heard AHK is blocked there, must use built-in macro mouse

So in that case we are better (?)

Unfortunately,  AHK doesn't work there. At least Rolling Cutter has its built in spam functionality where you hold the key and RC keeps casting.


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Posted 25 February 2021 - 02:59 PM

I don't think so it is our fault, tbh. When OCP first given to us, we, the players, will not know that it will cause the situation today, whereby most of the class can do overkill output. It is the 2 months hiatus that also speed up to our situation today, look at your 1 year old new server, is  they population any close to us?

 

Like many people said, if you cannot maintain multiple business line at once, why not just focus on Chaos?

 

And speaking of WoE, people participating is just because they are rich enough in-game and want to have some fun. Otherwise, the reward for a winning guild cannot even stand to supply just consumables within the guild.

 

When our population were high, are we only 1/2 year away from kRO? We are just being treated different way compared to twRO.

 

We have been debating a lot from Enforcer Shoes, long surviving bugs to dying server, pages of posts can only push WP to update buying shop items this week. Guess, if we are bored with iRO in-game, don't forget to keep yourself entertained in the forum.


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Posted 25 February 2021 - 03:32 PM

need to consider that although bot still are roaming its population also dropped to like 10% or less of what it was. Now the offline merchants aren't counted as part of the online people whereas before hiatus those where mostly bots that did counted...

 

edit: i dont think the server is on a healthy status by anymeans btw, its just to point that out...


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Posted 26 February 2021 - 02:47 PM

It's just bad circulation, bad strategies (like closing servers for 2 months for almost no content updates) led to decrease of server population, less people results in lower income, lower income causes kRO to ignore iRO more, and hence less updates, and even fewer people due to less contents etc.

 

Also even though iRO relies on kRO for some bug fixes, warpportal is just too passive to take actions and step up, like the FAS bug people pointing out for months. Only until the beginning of this year, they sent someone to write bug reports. I feel a good company will never start to collect what's wrong with their product after such a long time. Nevertheless, now they even update their cash shop much less frequently (from monthly to almost quarterly now). 

 

My feeling now is that even though kRO doesn't want to abandon us, the warrportal team already gives up themselves.


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Posted 26 February 2021 - 06:13 PM

Even if they didnt close Chaos for 2 months, population would continue to drop regardless. Population already started dropping from 3k to 2.5k then to 2k then 1.7k. That's when they decided to try opening a new server because Chaos was ... ez. When server reopened, we were hitting around 800ish or something. Luckily, previous official Thai RO closed and we got some new players temporarily lol


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Posted 27 February 2021 - 06:10 AM

Ppls left and went to different pservers to play. When you look at some streaming sites, you can see where Brazilians mostly play at lol. And some asians went back to their designated RO and europeans play with pserver as well. I’m very sure what ppls really wanted is sumthin like a balanced WOE coz that’s why ppls play RO in the first place but iRO doesn’t give a fuzz about WOE revitalization so BYIEeee!
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Posted 27 February 2021 - 06:16 AM

PVM and TE in iRO
WoE in idRO.
life's good


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Posted 27 February 2021 - 10:38 AM

Never PvM'ed in iRO to farm zeny, did PvM few times just to make RG PvM videos for other RG players.

Took a WoE break in 2019. WoE few times in 2020. Now no WoE in 2021.

 

Life's good. Feeling much richer  :heh:  


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