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#1 CMAstra

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 01:52 PM

Good day everyone!

 

Today we updated our Kachua Key offerings, which you can see in detail here: April 2021 Kachua Key

 

We'd love to hear your feedback on the changes!

 

Anything you like or dislike about it, any improvements you'd like to see for the future?

 

Let us know in the comments below!

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#2 PervySageMarty

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 02:15 PM

I think you should be either making the blacksmith blessings come out as 8 or possibly even 5, but 1 blessing is seriously the biggest rip off.

As with the Prize Medals, I believe it should be acceptable to make it 2000 prize medals per drop as you have generally made this a standard with OCP boxes and groove packs, anything lower than that is just plainly looking like a rip off as well. I might even go as far as to say you should double the amount to 4000 prize medals, as the cost of getting the kachua keys to open for the chance to obtain prize medals at all are kinda in a loss-loss situation for our spendatures.

Gears wise, look, this forum and server of people will whinge and full on complain to the ends of the earth about how its not balanced or how OP it still makes GX and all the other Bulahdelah, but at the absolute end of the day, no matter how nerfed it is, the end result is they will all cave in and try get their hands on it, as someone on the actual maintenance thread stated to an effect, "any way to see big shiny numbers". Rather than say nobody would pay for this thing, I actually do applaud KRO and Gravity for understand the average westerner inner heart and mind, even for a tiny boost to out compete others, they would definitely still buy. Prove me wrong iRO players, prove me wrong! And the start of proving me wrong is to stop investing points into MA, if everyone on the server can fight that temptation to use it, then there's no real issue now is there.

Take the feedback with a grain of salt but as one of the biggest "whales" on this server, I feel I carry abit of collective weight on this issue.

Edited by PervySageMarty, 01 April 2021 - 02:21 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 02:29 PM

one prize medal are you for real


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 02:37 PM

One prize medal is scarier than a horror movie
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Posted 01 April 2021 - 02:58 PM

A single prize medal, minimum improvement effect for a whooping +15 armor, +12 boots that give extra 3% MHP MSP.

I feel like it lacked quality control before release. Please keep in mind getting +14 is very2 hard on mad bunny event, now we have +15 bonus that gives very2 minimum extra improvement to the item bonuses. Its armor, not lvl3 weapon, getting it to +15 would cost you very2 high amount of $$$ or refine stones or zeny.

One prize medal as possible reward? That speaks for itself.

I suggest these things

1. Involving the community for kachua content testing in sakray, just like back then.

2. Boots, improve the +12 bonuses

3. Remove the +15 bonus on armor/garment and make it +13 or +14 instead, and increase the bonuses by a bit

4. Obviously, more prize medal, OCP gives 1500-2000 prize medal as possible reward for 300kp, we can start from that ratio (1kp = 5-7 prize medal ratio)

5. Increase the amount of BSB given, half ratio from what OCP used to give

6.Make the content marketable / tradeable, especially the refine tickets, scrolls and consumeables


If its possible bring some of these suggestion to studio. Thanks for your hard work WP staff and keep it up.

Edited by worldeditor95, 01 April 2021 - 04:41 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:04 PM

guess i'll stick to the free prices of the spooky machine. ty very much.


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:06 PM

Maybe stop slapping your players by giving one blacksmith bleesing, prize medal or Manual per key when on OCP era OCPs were giving 6-8 of these items, that's not fun.

 

Campitor mentioned on the 3-19 thread "In addition we have seen the consumable requests which we will review." there will be changes on next kachua about the consumables, ex: Enriched Boxes?


Edited by RaveMaster, 01 April 2021 - 03:07 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:10 PM

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ENABLE ENCHANT NPC. REQUIRES OLD CARD ALBUM WHICH IS A MVP REWARD.

Use Old Card Album 1ea as enchant material. NPC will give an enchant effect as random. You can re-enchant if you got unneeded effect. The new enchant effect will replace an old one.

 
Enchant in 4th slot. You can choose and enchant this if upgrade level is +6 or higher.
- Special Str- Special Agi- Special Vit- Special Int- Special Dex- Special Luk
- Sharpness 1
- Fatal 1
- Fighting Spirit 1
- Expert Archer 1
- Magic Essence 1
- Attack Delay 1

- Anti-Range 10%Reduces damage taken from long range physical attacks by 10%
 
Enchant in 3rd slot. You can choose and enchant this if upgrade level is +8 or higher.
- Special Str- Special Agi- Special Vit- Special Int- Special Dex- Special Luk
- Sharpness 2
- Fatal 2
- Fighting Spirit 2
- Expert Archer 2
- Magic Essence 2
- Attack Delay 2

- Anti-Range 10% Reduces damage taken from long range physical attacks by 10%


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:11 PM

1. For cylinder boots, please restore its original effect but with higher refine requirements in order to achieve those (i.e the effect achieved at +5 originally can be achieved at +7), please do NOT randomly nerf an item. If this is too difficult for you, though not relevant to this Kachua, please set higher refinement requirements for enforcer shoes (i.e, achieve its full power at +15 instead of +7 currently)

 

2. One prize medal from one Kachua key is definitely joke of the year so far. I remember we can even get a few prize medals from spooky machine, then we get less when we pay LOLLLLLLL. Same applies to Blacksmith Blessing and other consumables, increase the amount we get per key.

 

3. As some of the folks mentioned, if you want to bring new items, instead of your team testing secretly then doing the "balance" naively and subjectively, open Sakaray and let the real player do some testing as well. Based on what the Studio was doing to this Kachua, I don't think they have a good understanding of iRO.

 

4. For future Kachua boxes, why not bring in skill specific shadow sets and more costume stones? I know kRO include those in cash shop, why is iRO reluctant to do this as well?

 

5. Extra point for all members of the warpportal team, don't just be a sh[i]t taker for kRO, I totally understand you may have very limited permissions to make changes, but at least you can fight back stupid changes. If you don't know whether a new item will be bad or not, please do NOT release. This Kachua key is one live example, a bad change will lead to worse results. People already wait for months, and I think we deserve better rewards for the time being, instead of being fed with another pile of trash one more time :).

 

6. Again, not relevant to this Kachua, but please ask the Studio to fix bugs and deliver in a more timely manner. It already proved that the Studio can have quick reaction time like what happened to the guild storage exploit bug recently, I think if the warpportal team is pushing hard enough, we can have a chance to get those bugs like the FAS bug fixed earlier. 


Edited by mic9010, 02 April 2021 - 10:15 AM.

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:18 PM

I don't agree that 1 prize medal is a fair prize :unsure:, u should put back Bloody Branch(an amount greater than 1) instead or any other things like enriched elunium or oridecon at least 5-10 pieces, u should also increase the amount of bsb.

 


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:18 PM

come on guys its april fool! 


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 03:21 PM

or stop changing jRO items as it was decided ages ago. (i know it's kro doing it, but anyways be reasonable with upgrade requirements)


it's gets shi..tier by the day to spend any money at all on iRO, the value of what you get for it has only gone down ever since, uhm, hiatus? you get less kp, lootboxes have worse rates, gachas within gachas(shadow box), worse consolation items, etc.

Thats not to mention how, besides seemingly faster kRO updates(by just a little bit), their recent "influence" on the server has removed most micro fixes that you were able to do before, descriptions got all sorts of messed up, and they even forced out good events that were going on.
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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:16 PM

Ok my feedback.

 

a bunch of useless items from OCP are back, i don't understand why.

Not new shadow gears 

lol


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:37 PM

Tell Gravity their April fools joke wasnt funny 

 

Like i said on the maintenance imagine getting 1 prize medal wasting 20-25 bucks to get a bunch of useless items if they want the op items to have low drop rates so be it but at least give the people something for their money 

 

kRO damage numbers are more astronomically high than iRO has ever seen and that is just the direction that the game is going, once we get 4th jobs lvl 2 armors and lvl 5 weapons most of the OCPs will be meaningless instead of nerfing the items now let them give the players incentive to spend and let people have fun, balance them for PvP purposes, most classes can deal with all the instances with non cash shop items if they want, focus on bringing the updates together with the cash items so the in game content is as good or close to the cash shop items instead of butchering items in the name of some balance the studio wants when kRO is full of MVP cards and better gear than OCP from farming the game (ie Nebula Armors) or even their cash shop (ie temporal manteau agi)


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:42 PM

is the balancing thingy is kind of late? what are those new items for? afaik OCP items meant to be an end-game item, but nerfed for balance issues is a joke. older items have their full potential that gives me an idea that you guys will nerf it too. in that case the game will change forever.

god bless iRO


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:47 PM

Few things and too much money. Not atractive. 


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:48 PM

Here's my 2 zeny

1. 1 Prize Medal. Please adjust the amount for prize medal or remove it altogether. 

 

2. 1 HE Battle Manual - At least change it to BMX3, we need 4 HE Battle Manual to change to one BMX3.  I know we aren't suppose to mess and compare market prices but taking the price of 1 Blacksmith Blessing (Which already have people complaining about, this reward is 1/6  of that.

 

3. Aqua Bunny Band, Moon Eyepatch, Ixion Wing, Mechanic Shoes, Siegfried's Helmet, Hunting Knife - I know some people internally scream when they get the Aqua Bunny Band since its such an old item, but seems like a welcoming addition to have previously common/uncommon tier here. Also provides an avenue to get previous items / grandma boxter so thumbs up on this.  :no1:

 

4. Status Shadow Item Combiner, Refine Tickets, Essense of Powerful Soul, Shadow Gears Boxes - I guess these will remain a staple until we receive new shadow gears. There's already a discussion on this so I guess i'm neutral on it since its kinda expected that they will be in for a while.

 

5. New Gears. - 

 

i) Feather Shield*
- +20 to get original effect seems a bit too much. Remember that time when we were getting refine attempts data collected in sakray and Ashuckel was the one that skewed the data till +18. Heck, we can't make it to +20 in the test server.
- However on a more realistic note of +12 to +14, that means:

8-9% aspd (12% Original)  
8-9% after cast delay (12% Original)
60-70 Atk and Matk (50 Original, new max is 100)
 
People would frown at it since we need +20 to get the original aspd/aftercast delay effect, but the atk/matk given is more compare to the original. If you're intending to go this round and armor is comparable to weapon lvl 4 refine rates I would suggest it to be lowered to be equivalent to the other refine rates suggested in this box (i.e Guardian Soul). +15 is already hard, not to mention +16 and above.
 
ii) Guardian Soul*

At +15
 
Reduced Skill Delay Usage by 1% for every 18 points of Pure Luk and Str
Atk +14 for every 18 points of Pure Luk and Str
7% Resistance to Shadow and Holy attribute attacks for every 18 points of Pure Luk and Str
MaxHP 3% for every 18 points of Pure Agi and Vit
7% Resistance to Fire and Water attribute attacks for every 18 points of Pure Agi and Vit
mAtk +14 for every 18 points of Pure Int and Dex
7% Resistance to Wind and Earth attribute attacks for every 18 points of Pure Int and Dex

- Assuming its 18 of any int/dex (so you can have 1 agi and 17 dex to activate it), so with a 90 int 90 dex we will get 70% resistance. 252 stats ( 122/130 or 126/126 will give you 98% resistance.)
 
 At +14 +12
- 5% per 18 stats so 50% at total of 180 stats.
- 12 ATK per 18 stats so 120 ATK/MATK
 
+14 + 12 is achievable, +15 is also still within the realms of being realistic (For those willing to spend).  On the balance side though... Good luck for those in WoE. PvM only have to worry about a single or two element at one time. I can see this being worn at bio5 or places with many elemental. :rolleyes:  
 
Also **coughs** Elemetal Proof Potions. (20% to the selected element and -15% to the other), Think of the possibility.
 
iii) Cylinder Boots* 
- If you decide to nerf the dmg, thats fine cause of 'balance'. But at least please put in the additional -50% Cart cannon variable cast in. There's only two other items with specific skill variable cast for cart cannon and its Harverster Hat and Cylinder hairband with both of them being able to achieve 100% on its own. As skill specific variable cast doesn't stack with general variable cast reduction, and the other items being redundant (100% already). I don't see a point of having 50% and not giving the full 100%
- Would be awesome to get 100% aspd buff on gene to increase our miserable aspd (especially when poked with Pain killer), but its not a game breaking feature since most of us does manual animation casting.

If I got anything written wrongly, please feel free to correct me. I just woke up so...
 
Edit : Cancel aspd 4% vs 20% (Typo apparently xD)

Edited by yamasakai90, 02 April 2021 - 06:23 AM.

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:49 PM

My feedback:

 

300KP for 6 to 8 Blacksmith Blessing, why 181KP to 200KP for just 1 Blacksmith Blessing... 4 Blacksmith Blessing per Kachua key, please.

 

New Kachua is like hey I have something new for you but not better than those I have provided to you earlier on. Not sure if this marketing strategy is right.

 

I think bringing OCA enchantment into this 2 new gear will really bring farming some other instances back to life especially for (IF) new players joining this server, since you can obtain OCA in much easier way in the early game to help with gears funding.


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:51 PM

Change thats 1 prize medal... i m also not agree..
1 blacksmith blessing? Lol

N nerf cylinder boots its not good..
Gene class already to weak

I got lazy open box after saw the reward... haha

N i think good for enchantment.. its really will bring player to farm oca

Edited by StunTosMati, 01 April 2021 - 04:54 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:53 PM

If there's still future for lootbox in iRO

Bring in KRO kachua items?
Instead of JRO OCP items.
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Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:57 PM

The rewards don't seem worth it to me. If you want to make money just do a fire sale on all the previous OCP boxes. There are already a lot of people running around with this gear and the few new players joining can't catch up.

Some items like the Heroic Backpack should be 1000 kp cash shop items since the Greed skill is loved by new players and old. I'd buy one to replace my 2008 gear.

I can understand the disappointment players have about nerfing gear when old items are untouched. That is a tough problem to fix, either nerf everything or keep everything strong. I think people enjoy playing overpowered characters and making crazy builds while they wait for updates.

I'm still having a lot of fun playing the game since coming back. Just letting you know I don't feel incentivized to spend real money on anything other than VIP sometimes. I'll keep saving my zeny up to buy some of the cool OCP items I see in Prontera. Thanks!

Edited by Tomnook, 01 April 2021 - 05:08 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 05:00 PM

Right, it is disgusting that the new loot box , new items are basically incomparable to the old ones,

Anyone in the correct mind, any newbie who wish to invest in the game would just.. RMT
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Posted 01 April 2021 - 05:04 PM

Good day everyone!

 

Today we updated our Kachua Key offerings, which you can see in detail here: April 2021 Kachua Key

 

We'd love to hear your feedback on the changes!

 

Anything you like or dislike about it, any improvements you'd like to see for the future?

 

Let us know in the comments below!

Remember to keep it productive!

 

So technically, you're telling us that those 3 kachua equipments are -_- and will not be changed in the future then?


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Posted 01 April 2021 - 05:08 PM

Please restore the original effect of Cylinder Shoes, that is, 

 

when refine level is +12 or higher:
MaxHP + 10%, MaxSP + 10%,

reduces casting time of Cart Cannon by 50%,

increases Cart Cannon damage by 1% per 2 base level.

 

rather than only gives

Max HP + 3%
Max SP + 3%
 
 
Also please restore the original 12% cast delay reduction of Feather Shield at some achievable refine rate (like +9, or +12).

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Posted 01 April 2021 - 05:11 PM

the power of new item releases is far less relevant than the ever decreasing value you get out of spending in those boxes

you don't need to(and really don't want to) have a new better than the previous item, you'd be replacing entire character equipment sets monthly, and the ever growing powercreep vs content difficulty just gets more ridiculous.
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