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[worldeditor95]

I mean cart tornado isn't nearly as spammable or accessible but i believe you can get something like 500%+ skill dmg from gears and 1sec cooldown on it so it wouldnt be that bad, but you literally would have to swap all your gear cause skill won't benefit from ranged modifiers, surely you can get like 500k 1sec cd cart tornado right? Or the scaling is just too bad for it? But i would prefer it being an option rather than the only choice you can make :/

its still worse even if u put MVP on it, and it have 2sec cd. still better to use broken CC and have higher overall DPS eventho its -_- DPS

[Campitor]

We will forward the issue. It seems to be formula based rather than item script based.

[Sigma1]

@Worldeditor95 Can you test Midas Whisper with bare hands?
Looks like all CC modifier from JRO items doesn't work at all.
I wonder if it also affects CC modifier from in-game items too.

[Essmikayl]

 

all test are done without buff / any other gear (naked), lvl 180 Gene. lvl65 job
100 str
2 agi
90 vit
120int
120 dex
1 luk

*number is in CC damage to egg with 5 soft def

Naked 6,745

+9 cylinder boots 6,795 

+12 OMH (lvl3 mette and 2x agi enchant) 7,858

 

 

 

@Worldeditor95 Can you test Midas Whisper with bare hands?
Looks like all CC modifier from JRO items doesn't work at all.
I wonder if it also affects CC modifier from in-game items too.

there you go sigma, but ashuckel said the +12 is bugged? +14 works normally

[Sigma1]

there you go sigma, but ashuckel said the +12 is bugged? +14 works normally

There's not enough info required to calculate dmg. But according to the result. I guess CC modifier from Old Midas doesn't work as well. The increasing damage is from Atk bonus and long ranged damage bonus from Midas.

Edited by Sigma1, 09 February 2022 - 10:14 PM.

[worldeditor95]

There's not enough info required to calculate dmg. But according to the result. I guess CC modifier from Old Midas doesn't work as well. The increasing damage is from Atk bonus and long ranged damage bonus from Midas.

i dont test the +14 OMH personally, but i do test +12 OMH (bare hand and naked) and it doesnt give any CC bonus damage, only the atk per refine and enchant are in the calculation.
the +14 OMH do give full effect along with the CC mod

[gaurus]

if +14 gears, cc give full effect
else, cc use wonky formula?

[Essmikayl]

if +14 gears, cc give full effect
else, cc use wonky formula?

the items gives wonky modifiers;

- +12 old midas

- cylinder hairband

- cylinder boots

- chemical gloves

 

the CC calculations itself is working normally

[Sigma1]

i dont test the +14 OMH personally, but i do test +12 OMH (bare hand and naked) and it doesnt give any CC bonus damage, only the atk per refine and enchant are in the calculation.
the +14 OMH do give full effect along with the CC mod

nvm Zayaan gave me the result and the thing is weirder.
+8 Midas doesn't provide CC dmg bonus while +14 Midas does.

Edited by Sigma1, 10 February 2022 - 04:18 PM.

[worldeditor95]

Have amyone tested saphir OS cc damage mod?

[Essmikayl]

my recently drawn conclusion:
modifier that modifies below 100% (or 90% because there's no inbetween) WILL NOT WORK
+14 midas has 105% modifier so it works fully

 

 

BUT if you have modifier above 100% COMING FROM TWO ITEMS e.g. +12 midas or below + +9 cylinder on lv 185 gene

90% + 92% = 182%, only the 82% will takes into account

 

i still dont know the case if you use weapons.

and i still dont know the case if you combo +14 midas or above with another <100% cc modifier

[Keith]

There is something wrong with the base formula is the only thing that seems to make sense.  Perhaps something with the way it interacts with the scripts is breaking it between different level gaps and added items etc.  Like Base formula (if level such) = this + item bonus effects etc. Vs Base formula ( if level/condition something else) = damage + item bonuses).  Something with the actual functionality of it all is causing this strange test results.

[NarumiMiura]

Here's my Saphir Hall (2x White Knight Cards) Test. Also, no buffs or shadows equipped. 

 

 

Edited by NarumiMiura, 10 February 2022 - 08:05 PM.

[Ride My Toy]

there you go sigma, but ashuckel said the +12 is bugged? +14 works normally

 

 

I tested it out before, +12 and +14 do same damage!!

Edited by 7769211124155137857, 10 February 2022 - 08:18 PM.

[worldeditor95]

I tested it out before, +12 and +14 do same damage!!

Please provide picture of the test result.

[worldeditor95]

Here's my Saphir Hall (2x White Knight Cards) Test. Also, no buffs or shadows equipped.

Noted, thanks.

Izlude egg are medium suze and neutral right?

[Keith]

There is some consideration that there can be equip bugs going on also whenever formula's are bugged. So items might act differently for different people for completely absurd reasons

[Essmikayl]

I tested it out before, +12 and +14 do same damage!!

its not possible, +14 will not do the exact same because of the atk bonus

better if you provide pictures

[Sigma1]

my recently drawn conclusion:
modifier that modifies below 100% (or 90% because there's no inbetween) WILL NOT WORK
+14 midas has 105% modifier so it works fully

 

 

BUT if you have modifier above 100% COMING FROM TWO ITEMS e.g. +12 midas or below + +9 cylinder on lv 185 gene

90% + 92% = 182%, only the 82% will takes into account

 

i still dont know the case if you use weapons.

and i still dont know the case if you combo +14 midas or above with another <100% cc modifier

 

I rechecked the result of +14 Midas and found that the CC mod doesn't apply properly.

Instead of 105% CC bonus. Only 100% applied.

[Ride My Toy]

its not possible, +14 will not do the exact same because of the atk bonus

better if you provide pictures

 

That's real.

Yes, it is not 100% same number of dmg, but is pretty close.

 

Sorry I didn't take picture.

 

I tested it before I refined it from +12 to +14 last month. and dmg is -_-ing almost the same.

 

I don't know the we should provide so much evidence for the team. why not they just go test on their end??? It is easy for the team to create the items to test, doesn't it? how long to test each bug? 4 hours? so you can test 2 items a day at least??? but ?? why 0 forever?

 

 

Edited by 7769211124155137857, 11 February 2022 - 01:36 PM.

[Ashuckel]

because they have other things to do during the day i hope so

[Essmikayl]

I rechecked the result of +14 Midas and found that the CC mod doesn't apply properly.

Instead of 105% CC bonus. Only 100% applied.

if this is the case
what if its capped to 100% but the mod need to go past 100%?

 

so like, if we get 182% its the 100% that applied rather than the 82%

[worldeditor95]

 

That's real.

 

 

Sorry I didn't take picture.

 

I tested it before I refined it from +12 to +14 last month. and dmg is -_-ing almost the same.

 

I don't know the we should provide so much evidence for the team. why not they just go test on their end??? It is easy for the team to create the items to test, doesn't it? how long to test each bug? 4 hours? so you can test 2 items a day at least??? but ?? why 0 forever?

 

do you test it naked or with other gear as well?

[Ride My Toy]

do you test it naked or with other gear as well?

 

NO,

 

my intention back then to do quickly test is to see how worth of refinement from +12 to +14, and the result is 0.

so i assume that increase CC dmg doesn't apply.

[worldeditor95]

NO,

my intention back then to do quickly test is to see how worth of refinement from +12 to +14, and the result is 0.
so i assume that increase CC dmg doesn't apply.

Well you can always test now. Only wear +14 OMH and nothing else, and use iron ball. No buff and shadows. Screenshot your whole iRO client with alt+a alt+q and enchant on ur OMH open and the cc damage.

And do the same test again but this time naked only with cannon ball

Edited by worldeditor95, 11 February 2022 - 06:08 PM.