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#26 bennilava

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 11:05 PM

My thoughts on how to improve the warps for Non-VIP

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Increase prices for all warps. This will encourage people to pay for a VIP account. A few hours ago, I decided to make a ragtag group of warp slave acolytes and multicliented to charge people 3,000 zeny to warp out of Payon, Rachel, Eden Group and Aldebaran. Within a few hours, I made roughly 275,000 zeny. People are willing to pay 3,000 for a simple Payon->Prontera warp (probably higher, but 3k seemed fair). This also helps with inflation, by taking a lot of currency off the market.

Adding crucial warps will make it easier for new players (and old) want to stay with Ragnarok Online. Honestly, it could be a make it or break it issue with some folks, for example, they become irritated that they do not have the option to at least return to warp back to Prontera and then quit the game over the issue. The key is to add the necessary warps, while at the same time making a VIP account look attractive, which can be done by either making Non-VIP warps more expensive, or making VIP warps cheaper and/or giving more warp destinations (maybe a free dungeon teleporter?). Although it could be argued that people don't buy VIP status for warps. If someone had maxed out their character and were to play for WoE/chat purposes only, they probably wouldn't buy VIP status just so that could warp around. I'm assuming that most people get VIP for the exp and drop bonus, so you could probably throw in a few VIP only leveling events, or make lucky boxes have better odds for VIP, or a Boxter NPC for VIP people only. I just think there are better ways to entice people into buying VIP, rather than witholding warps. Honestly, if I were to pay for VIP, it would be for exp and drops, the warping doesn't really matter to me, if I want to get around the lack of warps, I can EASILY make a job level 8 warp slave, so the only people that the warp restrictions actually hurt are casual players, who may quit over the issue.

Increased mobility helps fight spammers! Remember when people use to save in Geffen and Aldebaran, and the satellite cities from Alberta were considered "ghost towns"? Well, now everything is a ghost town, except for Prontera, and there we have an infinitely massive army of robots chanting psychopathic nonsense, actively driving away new players. I know you guys on Ymir are thinking, "oh we are safe here, it requires a credit card to play on our server, oh those robots will never get us". Trust me, if there is a market for zeny selling, the bots and the spammers will come, as the zeny sellers have no problem with stealing and falsifying credit card information. Remember, there were bot farms way before Ragnarok Online went free to play. The fact of the matter is that right now, Valkyrie is more lucrative for them. However, things may change, now that Ymir is free to play as well, if the population spikes up, be on the lookout for these souless menaces. Anyways, by increasing mobility, people will be able to call other places "home" which would force the spammers to distribute their forces and workload, making it easier to right click and ignore them.

Remove warps that are clearly there to make things easier for the player. Non-VIPs can ride the dirty airship, no instant gratification for you buddy, you have to pay for VIP status for an instant teleport to your destination!

Prontera Middle/South/East/West -
Remove Comodo (move to Morroc, doesn't make sense geographically)
Remove Umbala (move to Comodo, doesn't make sense geographically)
Remove Aldebaran (use Geffen or Izlude to connect)

Izlude -
Possibly add Aldebaran (I think it is neat that Izlude and Aldebaran are connected port cities)

Geffen -
Add Prontera
Add Aldebaran

Aldebaran -
Add Geffen
Add Juno
Possibly add Izlude

Morroc North-
Add Prontera

Morroc South
Keep Prontera
Add Comodo

Alberta West and Warp in -
Add Payon

Payon South and North -
Add Prontera
Add Alberta

Comodo -
Add Morroc
Add Umbala

Juno -
Add Aldebaran
Remove Einbroch (can use airship)
Remove Lighthalzen (can use airship)
Remove Hugel (can use airship)
Remove Rachel (can use airship)

Edited by bennilava, 20 April 2011 - 01:24 AM.

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#27 KingOfBabylon

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 11:41 PM

:blink: No.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:27 AM

My thoughts on how to improve the warps for Non-VIP

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I like my idea better. Nothing needs to be removed from VIP members. Prices do not need to go up. Basic Kafra Warp services should be available to non vip though.
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#29 bennilava

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:09 AM

I like my idea better. Nothing needs to be removed from VIP members.


?? I don't recall saying anything about removing things from VIP members.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:41 AM

I think Non Vip should be at least be able to karfa warp to adjacent towns or at very least have minimal warps from each town just make it more expensive. I already know people that came back cause the game went f2p only to quit cause of this. not like it will matter much, F2P isnt gona save the game population of real people, But I sure it will increase the bot population
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:16 PM

Imagine if there were no warps, and no teleport/fly wings at all. Would you have nightmares?
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#32 bennilava

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:23 PM

Imagine if there were no warps, and no teleport/fly wings at all. Would you have nightmares?


Obviously, I'd find something else to do with my time. Go troll somewhere else.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:34 PM

At the minimum, a warp back to Pront/Juno would be helpful to non-vip members, at least on Ymir where we can't just create free slave accounts.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 04:24 PM

We will be making some adjustments tomorrow, to what extent I'm not sure yet, as we will take feedback and make hte adjustments tomorrow morning.

Likely warps back to Prontera/Juno will be added and the cross between them too for non-VIP.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 04:51 PM

Imagine if there were no warps, and no teleport/fly wings at all. Would you have nightmares?

Sounds a lot like the other "free" MMORPGs out there, actually.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:48 PM

For Juno... That's what the airship is for. Normally, on servers other than iRO there's no Kafra teleport within the Republic of Schwartzvald at all (applies to both premium AND F2P servers) due to some "limited transportation agreement". The ability to Kafra teleport in the Republic of Schwartzvald was actually first introduced at the birth of iRO Valkyrie.

(Since renewal, the Republic of Schwartzvald is not a place for low level characters anyway)

Sounds a lot like the other "free" MMORPGs out there, actually.


pRO, twRO, idRO, mRO have no fly wing / butterfly wings at all on their F2P servers. (well... giant fly wings available on item mall)
bRO fly wing / butterfly wings are Kafra Shop items.

When iRO Valkyrie was first launched it was one of the two F2P servers that even allowed fly wings/butterfly wings at all, the other server being kRO Baphomet.

Edited by mooMOOmoo, 20 April 2011 - 07:55 PM.

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#37 bennilava

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 02:26 PM

We will be making some adjustments tomorrow, to what extent I'm not sure yet, as we will take feedback and make hte adjustments tomorrow morning.

Likely warps back to Prontera/Juno will be added and the cross between them too for non-VIP.


Any update on this? Free accounts still don't have warps, and I know a lot of people are frustrated about this. This was a few days ago, so any new information would be helpful, because a lot of new players are waiting for this.
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 04:38 PM

I'm putting in another vote for this. I just started the game and I'm frustrated with having to keep my save in prontera. I like iRO but this is just one of the features I guess I took for granted on other servers TT.TT

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 12:05 PM

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!! YOU PROMISSED U WERE GONNA PUT WARPS BACK! LJNDFASOASHIOIFDHCVSNCIANSIOCNIDOUNAIUNDCIDUVHLDHSVLDJSHSDKJVFHDSOHI
U MAKES ME SAD
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 12:05 PM

yeah give us warps back
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 12:06 PM

I DEMAND WARPS BACK!

Edited by Jpizzle, 28 April 2011 - 12:07 PM.

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#42 bennilava

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 12:07 PM

We will be making some adjustments tomorrow, to what extent I'm not sure yet, as we will take feedback and make hte adjustments tomorrow morning.

Likely warps back to Prontera/Juno will be added and the cross between them too for non-VIP.


It's been a week <_< any update on this? We need warps
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#43 KiLLeRPiEcE

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 12:10 PM

HI im a new player on ragnarok online and my progress in the game has been seriously hindered due to the lack of kafra warps. I would appreciate if the warps be given to us. kthxbai
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 05:01 AM

I checked today on a non-vip acct. I was able to warp to pront from payon. <_<
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 05:30 AM

Heim I reviewed your warp table and it seems Izlude Push Cart Rental costs more for VIP. Maybe just a typo? But if not just add that to the to-do list of minor changes.

On another note, premium benefits don't really mean stripping away the basics of the game and then selling those same said basics back to those that had them originally. Imagine if all of a sudden a car company decided that doors were no longer standard on vehicles and charged extra for car doors as their premium package. Yep, business suicide.

I think a better focus is building onto the "out-of-box" RO to make it beefier for VIP but not strip it down further to resell the tiddly bits that were widdled off. That being said, Non-VIP should have the normal warps. Just that VIP should have more robust warp options at a cheaper price. Some things you may also want to consider are added kafra options that used to be available but for some reason where removed, like Dungeon Saves with special kafras (ex. Orc Dungeon, Bylan Island, Coal Mines, etc.)

P.S.- The biggest thing I can recall people buzzing about in regards to warps, was the warp back feature suggested regarding getting the stat food buff from Eden group and returning to leveling. Now THAT is what being VIP should be about!
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 06:30 AM

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Please remove the ability of non-VIPs to warp from Morroc to Prontera, disable fly wings and butterfly wings for non-VIPs, and increase the spawn of Incantation of Morrocs at moc_fild20.

Edited by mooMOOmoo, 29 April 2011 - 05:40 PM.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 05:39 PM

</sarcasm>

on pRO, VIP memberships are available on BOTH F2P and Premium servers:

Normal Kafra teleport are available regardless of VIP or not.
VIP membership allows special teleport services directly to dungeons or WoE castles.
VIP membership in the premium server New Chaos completely eliminates death penalty. on F2P server it reduces from 5% to 2.5%.
On F2P servers (Valkyrie, New Loki) fly wings and butterfly wings are unusable whether you are VIP or not though.
Battle manuals stack additively with VIP bonuses.
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