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[Serigeese]

So far I had found huge success being as a Puller/Tank with Shadow Spell and Storm Gust

My Current Build - Lv. 111
STR 40
AGI 80
VIT 45
INT 89
DEX 70
LUK 1

Final Build - Lv. 150
STR 40
AGI 100
VIT 90
INT 110
DEX 100
LUK 1

Myself and the guild I'm in we do Tis and I usually run in, smacking anything with Lv5-6 Shadow Spell or precasting Storm Gust Lv.1 and let all the DPS in the group kill everything off. Most times when They are all frozen I can fire off a Chain Lightning and continue to auto swing with Chain Lightning is continuing to maul mobs to death that get frozen again.

It provides an awesome amount of CC as pretty much everything will get frozen, with the DPS in the group using wind endow or wind type magic, it's pretty much death for anything so far. It as a added bonus reduces damage being dealt to the entire group making Arch Bishops jobs pretty damn easy in terms of healing and rebuffing while in a mob.

[xFireize]

That build looks good for you, hybrid caster and shadow spell.

[GuardianTK]

I would recommend reducing that Agi to 100 in order to get that Vit to 100. It's a waste not to get that 100% Stun Immunity. The difference in benefits between 100int and 110int is very minimal. You're that close to the Stun immunity anyways.

[Serigeese]

I'll probably revise it as I go, I'll probably keep AGI at 90, keep INT at 100 and get 100 VIT as suggested.

Not sure what to do with DEX, faster casts for when I don't have the tank roll would be nice but I am not sure if 100 DEX is any different than 110 DEX. What you think ? Because eventually I might be able to do Storm Gust and Arrow Storm and probably do weapon swapping for whatever.

EDIT - I was also tempted by that 90 LUK build as well, how well did it work out for you and using the Ancient Dagger? If that works out ok I might try to form a build to that as well.

Edited by Serigeese, 21 June 2012 - 07:36 PM.

[GuardianTK]

Might want to ask xFireize about the Luck build. He's the one that's testing it out at the moment. It does look promising though, considering that it can utilize the Ancient Dagger efficiently.

There really isn't too much of a difference in cast time between 100dex and 110dex. Only reason to go beyond 100 base Dex is if you plan to utilize the Divest/Masquerade skills.

[xFireize]

The build is doing okay, INT is at 82 and LUK is at 60 at the moment, lvl 136. Been trying stuff as well, like copying IB.

I reset my skills to test out lv 5 invisibility, but dropped Reproduce to lv 5. Not so good.

[Serigeese]

I might try to woe with that in mind so I might push for 100 Vit and 110 Dex? I know the SS skills are going to be mostly for being annoying and such and force people to use Unfrozens. That might be kinda tasty /gg

[GuardianTK]

Dex helps your Chaser with Masquerade and Divest success rates. Just beware that you end up lowering some of your other Stats.

[Ramen]

I might try to woe with that in mind so I might push for 100 Vit and 110 Dex? I know the SS skills are going to be mostly for being annoying and such and force people to use Unfrozens. That might be kinda tasty /gg

One thing to keep in mind is that even if they're wearing unfrozen, 9 times out of 10 you can just full strip it off of them. Storm Gust can be an amazing mob control skill for WoE on a good chaser. You can keep people trapped for a lot longer than you can with manhole.

This was from today's WoE. Out of that group of people there was only one person that didn't freeze, and had I not been in invisibility, I could have easily full stripped him and had most of a guild stuck until I broke the emperium.

[SVKnight]

My rogue recently transed and was wondering if my plan of making it into low-str double-attack stalker and slowly turning it into a auto-shadow spell chaser is viable or not? I'm mostly grinding since I don't really like TI parties and sadly, no one would even think of including me into them.

[xFireize]

My rogue recently transed and was wondering if my plan of making it into low-str double-attack stalker and slowly turning it into a auto-shadow spell chaser is viable or not? I'm mostly grinding since I don't really like TI parties and sadly, no one would even think of including me into them.

I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I hit 130. It's a nice build, but needs to be buffed.

[LazyDuck]

I've just become a Shadowchaser,and im wondering why should i start putting my points,if i want to become a Decent
Dagger/AutoShadowSpell Chaser For Mvp. ?

Current Stats
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Str: 64
Agi: 95
Vit: 31
Int: 31
Dex: 60
Luck: 3

Edited by LazyDuck, 25 June 2012 - 06:10 PM.

[Ramen]

I've just become a Shadowchaser,and im wondering why should i start putting my points,if i want to become a Decent
Dagger/AutoShadowSpell Chaser For Mvp. ?

Current Stats
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Str: 64
Agi: 95
Vit: 31
Int: 31
Dex: 60
Luck: 3

Well, one thing you should know is that Shadow Chasers can't really MVP. The most difficult MVP I can kill without dying all the time is Osiris, and it's not like I'm using crappy gears. A lot of the classes that MVP well have either extremely powerful control click attacks, or have very high damage skills. Shadow Chaser doesn't really have either of those. That being said however, if you have no competition, you can kill pretty much any of the low tier MVPs.

As for your build. If you're going to for a Shadow Spell build, you're going to want a LOT more INT than what you currently have. I would really recommend 90-100 INT so that your damage won't be too terrible considering you can only autospell up to level 5 of any given spell. I'd recommend investing in a little bit more VIT for better survivability. As for DEX, it's up to you. If you don't plan on doing WoE or any PvP at all, then just getting enough to hit monsters would be fine. STR I'm kind of fickle on. My build doesn't really have much STR since I rely more on my MATK for dealing damage.

If you just changed to Shadow Chaser, you might consider restating to an Arrow Storm build until you've gotten to about 130, just so leveling is a bit faster, but that's up to you.

[AngelFlowergirl]

Well, one thing you should know is that Shadow Chasers can't really MVP. The most difficult MVP I can kill without dying all the time is Osiris, and it's not like I'm using crappy gears. A lot of the classes that MVP well have either extremely powerful control click attacks, or have very high damage skills. Shadow Chaser doesn't really have either of those. That being said however, if you have no competition, you can kill pretty much any of the low tier MVPs.

As for your build. If you're going to for a Shadow Spell build, you're going to want a LOT more INT than what you currently have. I would really recommend 90-100 INT so that your damage won't be too terrible considering you can only autospell up to level 5 of any given spell. I'd recommend investing in a little bit more VIT for better survivability. As for DEX, it's up to you. If you don't plan on doing WoE or any PvP at all, then just getting enough to hit monsters would be fine. STR I'm kind of fickle on. My build doesn't really have much STR since I rely more on my MATK for dealing damage.

If you just changed to Shadow Chaser, you might consider restating to an Arrow Storm build until you've gotten to about 130, just so leveling is a bit faster, but that's up to you.

Ah i see. thank you very much for the Infomation.


Ah Question?
What exactly is the Arrow Storm Build?
points/Skill wise?

[GuardianTK]

Ah i see. thank you very much for the Infomation.


Ah Question?
What exactly is the Arrow Storm Build?
points/Skill wise?

If you plan to MVP, use Storm Gust as your default Shadow Spell skill. Bosses/MVP's cannot be affected by most status effects, including Frozen. As such, Storm Gust will deal the full DPS as long as it is active on screen. It'll also keep the MVP's summoned mobs from attacking you, which in turn keeps your Flee at its max without worry about any penalties. Although this applies both to monsters that aren't resistant to Water and Frozen status. As Ramen points out, the most you can normally manage are the low-tier MVP's. Shadow Chasers don't really have the capability to dish out DPS as high as other classes.


Arrow Storm is a 3rd class skill that Rangers use. Its max level is 10.
You'll want Reproduce maxed at 10 in order to make full use of Arrow Storm. After that it's your choice on what you want for skills as a Chaser. Although it's recommended to get Manhole and Masquerade Ignorance for future use. Even Masquerade Ignorance is useful for a place like Bio3, where you'll ultimately be sought after for most parties leveling on monsters from there.

[AngelFlowergirl]

If you plan to MVP, use Storm Gust as your default Shadow Spell skill. Bosses/MVP's cannot be affected by most status effects, including Frozen. As such, Storm Gust will deal the full DPS as long as it is active on screen. It'll also keep the MVP's summoned mobs from attacking you, which in turn keeps your Flee at its max without worry about any penalties. Although this applies both to monsters that aren't resistant to Water and Frozen status. As Ramen points out, the most you can normally manage are the low-tier MVP's. Shadow Chasers don't really have the capability to dish out DPS as high as other classes.


Arrow Storm is a 3rd class skill that Rangers use. Its max level is 10.
You'll want Reproduce maxed at 10 in order to make full use of Arrow Storm. After that it's your choice on what you want for skills as a Chaser. Although it's recommended to get Manhole and Masquerade Ignorance for future use. Even Masquerade Ignorance is useful for a place like Bio3, where you'll ultimately be sought after for most parties leveling on monsters from there.

What would be the easiest way to get arrow Storm lvl 10?

Also.
With
ArrowStorm build

Would i need high Dex,Int and agi? And some vit?

[SVKnight]

I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I hit 130. It's a nice build, but needs to be buffed.

That doesn't really answer my question. Would you kindly expand?

[xFireize]

That doesn't really answer my question. Would you kindly expand?

Oh sorry about that, I was commenting on how you love grinding.
Um, my build has high STR, but most Spell Chasers that I know have low to decent STR, like about 60 or less. They have higher INT compared to STR. Just like how Ramen commented on LazyDuck's stats, you will need high INT once you've changed to a Shadow Chaser. Stalker does not need high INT, unless you make it a caster, which I am not too familiar with.

I am not sure how most Spell Chasers stats look like when they change from Stalker to Shadow Chaser. I became a Spell Chaser at level 115, and before I reset my build was AGI/DEX bow-wielder. So I'm not familiar with the transition. I am assuming the stats that LazyDuck has would work fine, then start pumping INT at that point.

Edited by xFireize, 25 June 2012 - 11:05 PM.

[SVKnight]

Oh sorry about that, I was commenting on how you love grinding.

I don't necessarily love them. I'm not that much of masochist. >_>

Um, my build has high STR, but most Spell Chasers that I know have low to decent STR, like about 60 or less. They have higher INT compared to STR. Just like how Ramen commented on LazyDuck's stats, you will need high INT once you've changed to a Shadow Chaser. Stalker does not need high INT, unless you make it a caster, which I am not too familiar with.

I am not sure how most Spell Chasers stats look like when they change from Stalker to Shadow Chaser. I became a Spell Chaser at level 115, and before I reset my build was AGI/DEX bow-wielder. So I'm not familiar with the transition. I am assuming the stats that LazyDuck has would work fine, then start pumping INT at that point.

I see. I guess I'll follow LazyDuck's path to being a stalker. (...That sounds so wrong on so many levels)

[AngelFlowergirl]

I don't necessarily love them. I'm not that much of masochist. >_>


I see. I guess I'll follow LazyDuck's path to being a stalker. (...That sounds so wrong on so many levels)

Hahaha.



xFireize

For Bow Build were do i put my points?

Edited by AngelFlowergirl, 25 June 2012 - 11:23 PM.

[xFireize]

Again, that was my assumption. Some other Spell Chasers might think her STR is too high or stuff like that. Gotta hear from the other SCs first.

What would be the easiest way to get arrow Storm lvl 10?

Also.
With
ArrowStorm build

Would i need high Dex,Int and agi? And some vit?

Not too familiar with the AS build, but the easiest (probably the only) way to get it would be copying it from a ranger.

Hahaha.



xFireize

For Bow Build were do i put my points?

Well, I had my AGI/DEX build last year and it wasn't made for Arrow Storm. It was made for Severe Rainstorm, which is not effective today due to 240 SP cost. There's a stats recommendation for Bow Chaser in the front page. Maybe it'll help.

Edited by xFireize, 25 June 2012 - 11:31 PM.

[Serigeese]

Again, that was my assumption. Some other Spell Chasers might think her STR is too high or stuff like that. Gotta hear from the other SCs first.



Not too familiar with the AS build, but the easiest (probably the only) way to get it would be copying it from a ranger.


Well, I had my AGI/DEX build last year and it wasn't made for Arrow Storm. It was made for Severe Rainstorm, which is not effective today due to 240 SP cost. There's a stats recommendation for Bow Chaser in the front page. Maybe it'll help.

I would so use Severe Rainstorm again but You are locked into using the bow while the skill is active :<

So yea! CHAIN LIGHTNING CAUSE I LOVE LIGHTNING !!

[Serigeese]

One thing to keep in mind is that even if they're wearing unfrozen, 9 times out of 10 you can just full strip it off of them. Storm Gust can be an amazing mob control skill for WoE on a good chaser. You can keep people trapped for a lot longer than you can with manhole.

This was from today's WoE. Out of that group of people there was only one person that didn't freeze, and had I not been in invisibility, I could have easily full stripped him and had most of a guild stuck until I broke the emperium.

That is just ...... simply epic. That's pretty much what I had thought of, be annoying as @#$^ possible. Probably when I get much higher level'ed I'm going try out the WoE scene again.

[Ramen]

Hahaha.



xFireize

For Bow Build were do i put my points?

Sorry I couldn't reply right away. I would suggest having as high dex as you can manage. With Arrow Storm, agi won't be as important since you're going to be mobbing, so I'd recommend getting a healthy about of vit. Lastly, it'd be a good idea to get as much int as you can manage to help your SP pool and regen so that you can get off more AS before running out of SP.

[GuardianTK]

Hahaha.



xFireize

For Bow Build were do i put my points?

For Stats, just follow one of the Bow Chaser builds at the front page.

The best way to get Arrow Storm right off the bat is to level the same way you did for your Stalker when trying to 99/70. All you need is 10 job levels and you'll have Arrow Storm 10. You can start working on putting skill points into Reproduce immediately after changing into a Chaser. The first 10 jobs aren't too hard to get.

As Ramen pointed out, it's best to get a good amount of Vit for mobbing purposes. It's also used for Stun resistance, which many monsters can inflict on you as you level to 150. Agi isn't that important for Arrow Storm. Int can be helpful though, due to increased SP pool. Only start working on adding Int after you've gotten Dex at base 100 points and Vit at roughly 75+ points.