343 replies to this topic

[Sandrock]

OMG Unique skills are reset too? ... i will do orlo quest again ._.

[Oerba]

Also, are the skill reset books always going to be purchasable for 10M or is this only temporary?

Temporary until the next maintenance which should be on the 27th December.


A lot seem to be selective reading today in this topic

[Sandrock]

lol

[ScarletDragon]

As in an offensive move in the "unique" skill category?
At this point in time, I wouldn't agree to it.

The skill/class balancing is already lots of time to get it to the "ideal" balance.

More information is needed though, so perhaps in the proposals and suggestions section.

Imagine wars though, everyone all saved up their "finishing move" then spammed it at once.

this is not a suggestion for now, its for the future and u will never now how will people react in a near death exp(in game)
they can be very controlled so use dont see people spamming them

[Xieg2]

ITEM MALL PASSIVES GONE!!! FIX IT!! :RAGE:

[Calanor]

ITEM MALL PASSIVES GONE!!! FIX IT!! :RAGE:

Log out log back in.
Its just a visual glitch.

[ScarletDragon]

the only reason u want this is for ur champ obviously since they
now are gonna have 18 or so sp left over... give it up they just got
balanced..

huh? havent u read what i talked about? am not talking about champs -.-
my main is not even a champ, am even glad i wont see so much champs around so i can go back to my champ
u should read my posts before talking non sense.

p.s. this is something ive been talking about 3 weeks ago b4 this patch, learn to pay attention b4 u speak.

Edited by ScarletDragon, 20 December 2011 - 08:16 PM.

[Sandrock]

Log out log back in.
Its just a visual glitch.

same as unique skills too? like the skill needed for orlo? o_o
how about the skill sacrifice for my farming champ

[Aymee]

211 con and my first cast of permafrost chill on a woopie:

Spoiler

Edited by Aymee, 20 December 2011 - 08:32 PM.

[Phish]

I'm looking at the champ skills and it's apparent that sword is still pretty superior. Axe might have some appeal in pvp but the spear is inferior to sword still.



Lets analyze:

(Using epic weapons) Comparing Spear to Sword:

Spear:
Higher mspeed
Higher Attack Speed


Sword:

Higher Attack Power
Higher Crit
Higher Accuracy
More skill points (Because the 1st job skill spear mastery does not have a secondary stat)



Now look at the champ skills:


Spear:

Achilles Heel Strike:

947 skill power when maxed
5 second cooldown
no status
11m radius
Reliable


Sword:

Seismic Impact:

1025 skill power when maxed
5 second cooldown
20% dodge down status
10m radius
Weapon attack (can miss/crit)


Not sure the mp change as I haven't logged in. I wanted to reskill back to spears but it doesn't look like there is any reason to still.

Edited by Phish, 20 December 2011 - 08:37 PM.

[Sandrock]

@calanor, i found a bug:
when i reskilled and relog, i still have my sacrifice skill .... level 4, and i have 211 extra sp ;D

[Sandrock]

oh, lol, nevermind it, i counted the sp, it's fine ... weird o_o

[Sandrock]

I'm looking at the champ skills and it's apparent that sword is still pretty superior. Axe might have some appeal in pvp but the spear is inferior to sword still.



Lets analyze:

(Using epic weapons) Comparing Spear to Sword:

Spear:
Higher mspeed
Higher Attack Speed


Sword:

Higher Attack Power
Higher Crit
Higher Accuracy
More skill points (Because the 1st job skill spear mastery does not have a secondary stat)



Now look at the champ skills:


Spear:

Achilles Heel Strike:

947 skill power when maxed
5 second cooldown
no status
11m radius
Reliable


Sword:

Seismic Impact:

1025 skill power when maxed
5 second cooldown
20% dodge down status
10m radius
Weapon attack (can miss/crit)


Not sure the mp change as I haven't logged in. I wanted to reskill back to spears but it doesn't look like there is any reason to still.

absolutely :/ maybe the end of spear champs

[NamirBarades]

Is there any way we can get a cheaper version of a stat reset as well for the duration of the week? Maybe its asking for too much, but thats the more expensive of the two on a normal basis, and for me to start playing my champ again, I'm going to need a few stat resets to match up with skills.

Consider it, it would help us a lot!

[kumpiakot]

Artisan

Spoiler

Poison Shot

• Cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds.

Hypno Shot

• Success now starts at 55% and increases by 5% per level. Final level is unchanged.
• Cooldown has been increased by 2 seconds.

All Grenades

• Are now on a shared cooldown timer of 5 seconds between use.

i would suggest that grenades cooldown should increase not shared whats the point of having diff 'nades then? and please remember that flash high explosive should "blind the opponent but instead accu down"...hope that next patch youll make a difference...

[Phish]

Artisan

Spoiler

Poison Shot

• Cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds.

Hypno Shot

• Success now starts at 55% and increases by 5% per level. Final level is unchanged.
• Cooldown has been increased by 2 seconds.

All Grenades

• Are now on a shared cooldown timer of 5 seconds between use.

i would suggest that grenades cooldown should increase not shared whats the point of having diff 'nades then? and please remember that flash high explosive should "blind the opponent but instead accu down"...hope that next patch youll make a difference...

I know, having a shared cooldown is good if they are equally useful for different situations. But when 1 is better than the rest (damage + high stun success) you won't really ever use the others.

[enzomilano]

THIS SUCKS! BIG TIME!

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH AN EPIC 2HSWORD COSTS?! GREAT! HAVE TO CHANGE FROM SPEAR TO 2HSWORD

seriously, this game is so unpredictable and unstable!

Edited by enzomilano, 20 December 2011 - 09:05 PM.

[FerRawrRawr]

Hawkers are still slower than Champs.

Dual raiders are still worthless.

Scouts are still worthless.

Being a mage just got tougher, but I'm OK with this.

Hahahahahaha to champs.

I have a champ and I'm not even mad.

[Xieg2]

Is IM Broken?? Can't see the Halo D: Can't make a preview too.. It's only on the promotion tab.. Not on the main window

[kumpiakot]

I know, having a shared cooldown is good if they are equally useful for different situations. But when 1 is better than the rest (damage + high stun success) you won't really ever use the others.

(NEW PATCH) 5 sec cooldown on 'nades..shared cooldown as well...5 sec cd on hypno success rate retains ..(OLD PATCH) once you throw 'conc throw another usefull 'nades then so on and so forth but if your gonna do it on shared 'nades cd and a 5 sec hypno betcha a quick meltdown on arti with what def/hp they have..

again..increase cooldown on nades, removing the damage on conc's would be more fair and just...

Edited by kumpiakot, 20 December 2011 - 09:52 PM.

[TuttiFrutti]

I hope the old good days will be back like last year where 40Ap's/10Str are still there D: </3

[TuttiFrutti]

absolutely :/ maybe the end of spear champs

there are still hope for spear champ's like me xD get all the passives and hit and run like a boss xD

[kwayan19]

s> shattered hope s> hardened wand

[kudaloncat]

Maintenance Time will be extend to 7 PM PST


Skill Balances

Soldier

Spoiler

Spin Attack

• Is now a Weapon Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Taunt

• Reduced all but final level success by 10% per level.
• (Last two levels were both 100%)

Soundless Vacuum

• Reduced all but final level success by 10% per level.
• (Last two levels were both 100%)

Champion

Spoiler

Geon Archangel Crumpler

• Reduced Skill power by an average of 142 skill power for all levels.
• MP Cost has been increased slightly.

Charge

• Duration has been increased to 4 seconds to all levels.
• MP Cost has been adjusted per level, with an overall increase.
• Movement Speed bonus has been reduced to 75% from 100%
• Cooldown has been slightly decreased for all but final level.

Quick Step

• Bonus has been reduced to 2%/3%/4%/5% increase to movement speed.

Seismic Impact

• Is now a Weapon Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.
• MP Cost has been increased.
• Cooldown has been increased by 2 seconds.
• Can only be used with Two-Handed Swords.
• Movement Speed Down effect has been removed.

Longinus' Attack

• Skill Power for level 1 was reduced from 1083 to 983, due to being out of proper Skill Power scale. (Level 2 Skill Power is 1015)
• MP Cost has been adjusted per level, with an overall increase.

Achilles' Heel Strike

• MP Cost has been adjusted per level, with an overall increase.
• Skill Effects have been removed.
• Can only be used with Spears.
• Cooldown has been reduced by 1 second.

Champion Hit

• MP Cost has been increased.

Slugger

• Attack Power has been increased by an average of 90%.
• Success Chance has been reduced to 50% from 70% for all levels.
• MP Cost has been increased.
• Cooldown has been reduced by 2 seconds.
• Skill can only be used with Axes.

Combat Cry

• Duration has been increased from 15 to 30 seconds.
• MP Cost has been increased significantly.

Space Attack

• MP Cost has been increased.

Blood Attack

• MP Cost has been increased significantly.
• Amount of HP absorbed has been increased to 1500 at final level.

Berserk

• MP Cost has been increased.
• An HP Cost has been added, starting at 1000HP with a 500HP increase per level. Maximum 3000HP at final level.

Muse

Spoiler

Mana Bolt

• Is now a reliable Skill and will cause half damage if the attack misses.

Mana Spear

• Is now a reliable Skill and will cause half damage if the attack misses.

Voltage Jolt

• Is now a Magic Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Mana Drop

• Is now a reliable Skill and will cause half damage if the attack misses.

Voltage Shock

• Is now a Magic Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.
• Success chance has been reduced to 60% from 65%.
• Cooldown has been reduced by 4 seconds.
• Cooldown is now shared with Voltage Storm.

Mage

Spoiler

Freezing Chill

• Is now a Magic Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Glaciating Chill

• Is now a Magic Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Soul Shock

• Is now a Magic Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Soul Electric

• Is now a Magic Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Permafrost Chill

• Is now a Magic Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Staff Stun

• Is now a Weapon Attack skill, meaning it can miss, be blocked and land a critical blow.

Cleric

Spoiler

Voltage Storm

• Increased success chance of effect to 60% from 45%.
• Increased area of Effect by 2M
• Cooldown has been reduced by 5 seconds.

Hawker

Spoiler

Double Slash

• Cooldown has been reduced by 2 seconds.

Focused Impact

• Cooldown has been reduced by 2 seconds.

Triple Slash

• Cooldown has been reduced by 4 seconds.

Katar Upper

• Cooldown has been reduced by 2 seconds.
• Debuff Effect has been removed.
• Is no longer on a shared cooldown with other skills.

Dividing Cleave

• Cooldown has been reduced by 3 seconds.
• Debuff Effect has been removed.
• Is no longer on a shared cooldown with other skills.

Blind

• Range has been reduced to start at 6M, from 12M
• Effect Duration has been increased to 30 seconds, from 10.
• Accuracy Down effect has been changed to 3%/5%/7%/10%
• Cooldown has been reduced to 10 seconds, from 20.
• Cast Animation speed was increased slightly.

Weaken

• Range has been reduced to start at 6M, from 12M
• Defense Down effect has been changed to 3%/5%/7%/10%
• Effect Duration has been increased to 30 seconds, from 10.
• Cooldown has been reduced to 10 seconds, from 20.
• Cast Animation speed was increased slightly.

Flame Hawk

• Range has been increased to 15M
• Cooldown has been reduced by 1 second.

Spiral Kick

• Area of Effect has been reduced by 1M increase per level, instead of 2M.
• Cooldown has been reduced by 4 seconds.

Scout

Spoiler

Point Blank Arrow

• Range has been reduced to 8M.
• Cooldown has been reduced by 9 seconds.

Raider

Spoiler

Bloody Assault

• Cooldown has been reduced by 2 seconds.

Mental Storm

• Effect Duration has been increased to 15 seconds, from 10.
• Accuracy Down effect has been changed to 3%/5%/7%/10%
• Cooldown has been decreased by 12 seconds.

Enfeeblement

• Effect Duration has been increased to 30 seconds, from 20.
• Movement Speed down effect has been changed to 15%/20%/25%/30%
• Cooldown has been decreased by 20 seconds.

Sucker Punch

• The success chance now begins at 50% and increases by 5% per level. Final level chance is unchanged.
• Cooldown has been reduced by 3 seconds.

Bourgeois

Spoiler

Zulie Storm

• Increased duration of effect to last for 20 seconds for all levels.
• Accuracy Down effect was reduced to start at 7% and increase by 1% per level, maxing at 15%.
• Zulie consumption has been increased.
• Cooldown is now set at 8 seconds instead of changing per level.

Toxic Shot

• Cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds.

Cannon Splash Burst

• Cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds.

Flame Stun Burst

• Cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds.

Artisan

Spoiler

Poison Shot

• Cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds.

Hypno Shot

• Success now starts at 55% and increases by 5% per level. Final level is unchanged.
• Cooldown has been increased by 2 seconds.

All Grenades

• Are now on a shared cooldown timer of 5 seconds between use.

Skill Resets

• Characters will be able to purchase a Skill Reset from [Monster Coin Trader] for 10M Zulie.
• Skill Resets available through December 27th.

Lucky Spin

• New Set of items in the lucky spin Added!
• Police Outfit
• Highway Patrol Outfit
• Green Cadet Uniform
• Whale Cap
• Green Octopus
• Red Octopus

Item Mall Update

• Yellow Dog Beanie on Sale 300 Points
• Halo Added 300 Points
• +20 CON / +45 Crit

this u say about balancing class??? OMG THIS IS VERY2 BAD....... NOTHING DIFFERENT

[kudaloncat]

idk what i am must talking about balancing class? CM what u basic talking if this is balanced class?