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[shokwavez]

I would like to ask everyone who's been helping test on Pegasus to come online and see me in the Training Grounds for some special instructions.

Good talk Leo looking forward to more insight information!

[Leonis]

Good talk Leo looking forward to more insight information!

Glad you enjoyed it.

[Leonis]

I'm leaving Pegasus up over night again with the new fixes to see if it catches any other crashes. Feel free to test and again, as always, please post your results and feedback here!

[jstnnn]

Need to keep it up over a weekend to actually let ppl use it 0-0

[jerremy]

Damn it was too late for hearing what he had to say, can someone post a quick summary on what he all said? Pleaseeee

[Zurn]

Damn it was too late for hearing what he had to say, can someone post a quick summary on what he all said? Pleaseeee

Told ya in that other thread I got it written down somewhere I can throw it to ya like a bone later~

Edited by Zurn, 24 February 2012 - 06:52 AM.

[jerremy]

Alright thanks~

[Leonis]

News update for today.

After reviewing a lot of the feedback on the Honor equipment, we're going to increase the penalty by 2% for both PVM Offense and Resistance, per equipment piece and see how that goes over today. The difference should be slight, but enough to balance out what we were aiming for and we'll be just about done with testing the mechanics. Beyond this is polishing up the new UI and then moving on to planning the PVM side of things.

Patch v11 has the adjusted PVM penalties applied to the Honor Equipment and is online. Pegasus will be left online until further notice.
Please test and provide your feedback on the PVP Honor Equipment.

[NoChampHere]

News update for today.

Run time error... cannot open the client


Run time error

Program C..

this application has requested the run time to terminate in an unusual way.
Please contact the applicants support team for more information.

help please XD

[Leonis]

Run time error... cannot open the client


Run time error

Program C..

this application has requested the run time to terminate in an unusual way.
Please contact the applicants support team for more information.

help please XD

Were you able to get on before?
Did this just start?

[NoChampHere]

Were you able to get on before?
Did this just start?

Yes this started as soon as patch 11 came out, before that i was logged in

edit: woooo and i also get stuck on the connecting to server screen on the real client.-.-'

Edited by NoChampHere, 24 February 2012 - 06:09 PM.

[Leonis]

Yes this started as soon as patch 11 came out, before that i was logged in

edit: woooo and i also get stuck on the connecting to server screen on the real client.-.-'

It sounds like you're using the wrong client to connect to the wrong server. Perhaps you should try reinstalling and make sure the installation directories are different.
You're the only once I've heard of that has encountered this error since the v11 patch has gone online for Pegasus.

[Trebor]

It sounds like you're using the wrong client to connect to the wrong server. Perhaps you should try reinstalling and make sure the installation directories are different.
You're the only once I've heard of that has encountered this error since the v11 patch has gone online for Pegasus.

Leo,

I updated to rev 11, no problems logging in for me.

Rob

[Feuer]

Rofl, so much chaos. If i had net i would do a thorough test of the beta server, but i dont so i cant lol. Btw good job staff members, does a veteran good to see some new stuff going into the game, keep it up and the community will go back to the way it was a couple years ago when there was real economy. Im.actually excited lol

Edited by Feuer, 25 February 2012 - 01:51 AM.

[noobje]

Crit image doesnt show up when your hitting a mob/Person :3

And can we have im passives?

Edited by noobje, 25 February 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[bonerdude29]

i keep getting " file[3ddata\terrain\o_range.tbl]open error " message when i try to start client on pegasus please help

[Zurn]

i keep getting " file[3ddata\terrain\o_range.tbl]open error " message when i try to start client on pegasus please help

sounds like you need to reinstall

[BobDylan]

Hi all just thought I'd get around and finally give out some test data that I'd been collecting on Pegasus.

I use my level 202 artisan as the attacker:

Spoiler

With full precious (15) weapon and armor:
Attack = 3985
Defense = 4179
Magic Defense = 2000
Accuracy = 3070
Critical = 196
Dodge = 1043
ASPD = 96.5%
MSPD = 1054

With precious armor (15) and epic gun (15):
Attack = 4482
Defense = 4179
Magic Defense = 2000
Accuracy = 3182
Critical = 196
Dodge = 1043
ASPD = 104.9%
MSPD = 934

With precious armor (15) and chivalrous gun (15):
Attack = 3985
Defense = 4300
Magic Defense = 2000
Accuracy = 3070
Critical = 196
Dodge = 1043
ASPD = 96.5%
MSPD = 934

With full chivalrous (15) weapon and armor:
Attack = 4333
Defense = 5611
Magic Defense = 2221
Accuracy = 2998
Critical = 272
Dodge = 960
ASPD = 80%
MSPD = 684

With full chivalrous (15) armor and epic gun (15):
Attack = 4830
Defense = 5490
Magic Defense = 2221
Accuracy = 3110
Critical = 272
Dodge = 960
ASPD = 88.1%
MSPD = 684

With full chivalrous (15) armor and precious gun (15):
Attack = 4333
Defense = 5490
Magic Defense = 2221
Accuracy = 2998
Critical = 272
Dodge = 960
ASPD = 80%
MSPD = 804

I used a level 201 Knight as my target:

Spoiler

With full precious (15) weapon and armor:
Attack = 2238
Defense = 14,358
Magic Defense = 3204
Accuracy = 1448
Critical = 60
Dodge = 823
ASPD = 15%
MSPD = 895

With precious armor (15) and epic sword (15):
Attack = 2665
Defense = 14,358
Magic Defense = 3204
Accuracy = 1678
Critical = 60
Dodge = 823
ASPD = 15%
MSPD = 775

With precious armor (15) and chivalrous sword (15):
Attack = 2238
Defense = 14,557
Magic Defense = 3204
Accuracy = 1448
Critical = 60
Dodge = 823
ASPD = 15%
MSPD = 775

With full chivalrous (15) weapon and armor:
Attack = 2631
Defense = 15,846
Magic Defense = 3204
Accuracy = 1398
Critical = 129
Dodge = 688
ASPD = -1.5%
MSPD = 525

With full chivalrous (15) armor and epic sword (15):
Attack = 3056
Defense = 15,646
Magic Defense = 3204
Accuracy = 1628
Critical = 129
Dodge = 688
ASPD = -1.5%
MSPD = 525

With full chivalrous (15) armor and precious sword (15):
Attack = 2631
Defense = 15,646
Magic Defense = 3204
Accuracy = 1398
Critical = 129
Dodge = 688
ASPD = -1.5%
MSPD = 525

With these two chars I was able to collect the following data.

Spoiler

artisan vs Knight with all precious

artisan with all precious 150-305 damage

artisan with all precious armor and Chiv gun 156-329 damage

artisan with all precious armor and Epic gun 165-355 damage

artisan with all Chiv 201-400 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and precious gun 185-370 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and Epic gun 205-430 damage

artisan vs Knight with Epic & precious Armor

artisan with all precious 160-326 damage

artisan with all precious armor and Chiv gun 160-340 damage

artisan with all precious armor and Epic gun 167-350 damage

artisan with all Chiv 200-430 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and precious gun 195-410 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and Epic gun 215-450 damage

artisan Vs Kight with all Chiv

artisan with all precious 180-400 damage

artisan with all precious armor and Chiv gun 190-500 damage

artisan with all precious armor and Epic gun 215-500 damage

artisan with all Chiv 235-470 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and Pre gun 230-465 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and Epic gun 260-520 damage

artisan Vs Kight with Chiv Armor and Epic

artisan with all precious 170-360 damage

artisan with all precious armor and Chiv gun 180-460 damage

all precious armor and Epic gun 197-480 damage

artisan with all Chiv 220-466 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and precious gun 217-319 damage

artisan with all Chiv armor and Epic gun 250-460 damage

I would admit that this was a pretty down and dirty test, but it did yield some interesting numbers. I will say that I felt like the epic gun was still a better choice overall, the reason being that it yielded a higher accuracy and slightly higher damage. The chiv gun seems to give fairly comparable damage to the epic in this situation, but while I did not test this yet, on paper it will cause an attacker to be able to hit for 10% more damage.

At any rate this is what I've seen so far while testing on Pegasus. It is definitely an interesting change in mechanics, but my guess is that on the live server most people are going to choose epic weapons unless they also give a PVP/PVM percentage. However, at this rate giving them a PVP bonus percentage at all would make them the clear favorite.

On another note, one thing that was slightly annoying to deal with was the fact that the crit graphic is not displaying. I know that it is not a serious problem, but it did make collecting this information much harder.

[JordanX]

I request the following items to be sold at the Honor Items Seller:

• Mage Diary
• Buff Pots
• Red Pots/Blue Pots
• Red Snapper Goulash
• Grenades

[PureCreativity]

Whats this exactly ?

[Zurn]

Whats this exactly ?

did you read any of this thread before you commented?

[PureCreativity]

did you read any of this thread before you commented?

Yes and all i could find were some of the option in this server.
and the commenst like OMG I WAITED for this.

so yes i actually did.

I can login and create a character but i cannot enter the world.

Edited by djilano, 26 February 2012 - 05:59 AM.

[Zurn]

well if you didnt know its a test server to test out the new changes to the Honor gear and the tooltips, sometime this week maybe the Game arena will also be put of to make sure things are working properly.

as for not being able to get on the actual world part im not sure why i just logged in no problems, maybe try check all and so on~

[PureCreativity]

well if you didnt know its a test server to test out the new changes to the Honor gear and the tooltips, sometime this week maybe the Game arena will also be put of to make sure things are working properly.

as for not being able to get on the actual world part im not sure why i just logged in no problems, maybe try check all and so on~

I see well it's also a common problem on the normal ROSE , everyonei n my house has it
we have to try and login for like 20 times before we can play.

[Kitt]

I've been testing the difference in the PvM experience between normal and Honor items. My character is a mage.

On the first run, he is wearing Orlean gear (10) and using an Ein Stern (10). I gave him Spirit Boost, Wallop Charm, Precision Charm, Resilience Charm, and Hustle Charm.

Stats:
Attack 3548
Defense 2681
Magic Defense 2986
Accuracy 1063
Critical 144
Dodge 815

His targets for these tests are Drytail Scorpios.

His attacks range from 4100 - 4500 damage and the Drytail Scorpios do 480 - 1062 damage in return. The most common attack was in the 4200 range, and the most common hit was in the 650 range.

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When I gear up with Glorious Orlean Gear (10) and use a Glorious Ein Stern (10) using the same self-buffs, the results change rather dramatically.

Stats:
Attack 3673
Defense 3253
Magic Defense 3164
Accuracy 1550
Critical 144
Dodge 1239

His attacks range from 2399 - 2745 damage and the Drytail Scorpios do 691 - 1475 damage in return. The most common attack was in the 2400 range, and the most common hit was in the 900 range. Many hits were over the 1000 point psychological threshold (where they stand out simply because they are one digit more than the other hits).

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Just for completeness sake, and to take some variables out of the test, I ran the same gauntlet without buffs at all.

Orlean Gear (10) and using an Ein Stern (10), no buffs

Stats:
Attack 3059
Defense 2196
Magic Defense 2986
Accuracy 861
Critical 144
Dodge 815

His attacks range from 2457 - 2950 (with one hit of 4900 that had to have been a critical) damage and the Drytail Scorpios do 533 - 812 damage in return. The most common attack was in the 2500 range, and the most common hit was in the 750 range.

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Glorious Orlean Gear (10) and using a Glorious Ein Stern (10), no buffs

Stats:
Attack 3168
Defense 2673
Magic Defense 3164
Accuracy 1267
Critical 144
Dodge 1239

His attacks range from 1684 - 1839 damage and the Drytail Scorpios do 744 - 1633 damage in return. The most common attack was in the 1700 range, and the most common hit was in the 825 range.

The increased Dodge from the Glorious Set was quite evident -- the Drytail Scorpios missed significantly more during the Glorious test than the basic one, but the incidence of higher point hits increased too, almost as if they were getting Critical Hits more often, though it's difficult to tell any effect on the results from Critical Hits since they don't appear to be showing.

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My overall impression is that the penalty from wearing Honor gear is far too high for someone who prefers PvM despite how good Honor gear looks 'on paper' (that is, the raw values as shown in the Character Information screen look much higher while wearing Honor gear and they have what appear to be very nice stats with bolded Accuracy and Dodge on the Glorious Set for example). To someone like me who doesn't enjoy PvP, any notion of enduring Faction Wars to gain enough Honor Points to get Honor Gear just sank like a stone given these results. The penalty from wearing Honor gear for PvM is too high.

It will be interesting to see if the benefit gained from wearing PvM gear falls in line with the penalty from wearing PvP gear in PvM combat. That might be something I would be interested in!