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[Annatar]

So I've gotten a new pet Sohee. Was actually wondering how the system for hunger works. Is it based on time or another thing? I don't wanna hang around in town like I always do and just find that my new pet died!

So how does hunger work?

[Dammage]

Based on time, it gets hungrier over a certain amount of time

[Annatar]

Then I'll have to logout, do you know how much time that is?

[CeruleanGamer]

Time based. Some pets get hungrier faster than usual. Sohee's hunger is rather slow, so I estimate it's around 15 minutes until she hits "Neutral" Satiation. Pets like Bacsojin or Shinobi get neutral satiation at 4-5 minutes, so you must be attentive with those pets.

To get bonus to pet loyalty, YOU MUST FEED the pet at NEUTRAL. If you feed at HUNGRY OR VERY HUNGRY, it will not get any loyalty points (No loyalty point at hungry and lose loyalty points when feeding at very hungry).

Logging off freezes hunger time, so you don't need to worry about pets leaving you when you're not online.

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 16 September 2012 - 06:27 AM.

[Annatar]

Thanks guys!

[NeoNilox]

Time based. Some pets get hungrier faster than usual. Sohee's hunger is rather slow, so I estimate it's around 15 minutes until she hits "Neutral" Satiation. Pets like Bacsojin or Shinobi get neutral satiation at 4-5 minutes, so you must be attentive with those pets.

To get bonus to pet loyalty, YOU MUST FEED the pet at NEUTRAL. If you feed at HUNGRY OR VERY HUNGRY, it will not get any loyalty points (No loyalty point at hungry and lose loyalty points when feeding at very hungry).

Logging off freezes hunger time, so you don't need to worry about pets leaving you when you're not online.

Actually, you can feed your pet in Hungry state (not in Very Hungry), it even gives more intimacy than feeding it at neutral. But for the sake of making intimacy, you have to feed it in Neutral state because the time taken between Neutral and Hungry is double than the time taken from Stuffed to Neutral.

And under my few experiences, most of my pets (if not all of them) take around 5 minutes for Stuffed > Neutral (10 minutes if Neutral > Hungry). The only one I've had that takes very long to get hungry is the Rocker pet (Stuffed > Neutral = 15 minutes).

So in my opinion, if making intimacy feed it in Neutral, otherwise feed it in Hungry. Be aware of its hunger.

[BoingBoing]

And under my few experiences, most of my pets (if not all of them) take around 5 minutes for Stuffed > Neutral (10 minutes if Neutral > Hungry). The only one I've had that takes very long to get hungry is the Rocker pet (Stuffed > Neutral = 15 minutes).

Pets have different hunger timers?

[CeruleanGamer]

So in my opinion, if making intimacy feed it in Neutral, otherwise feed it in Hungry. Be aware of its hunger.

Feeding it at Neutral is MUCH safer and faster because going from Hungry to VERY Hungry takes much shorter time than Stuffed>Neutral.

@Boing: Yes. You should see the Imp pet. It takes like 20-25 mins getting from Stuffed to Neutral. while the Bacsojin takes like less thna 5 mins.

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 16 September 2012 - 11:24 AM.

[Akami]

You can also put it back in it's egg to freeze the timer if you're going afk for any length of time.

[DrAzzy]

I would not ever want to log out with a pet I cared about keeping on the leash instead of in egg. You can log back in, not move and not see your pet and walk off, you can think you logged out, but have gotten the "please wait 10 seconds" and tabbed before you realized it hadn't logged (I lost a _homun_ like that!), etc. Also, if you get an unclean disconnect with pet out, always log back onto the character afterwards. I've heard a few reports of unclean DC's leaving the player logged in until their pet ran away, and they log in the next day and find they have no pet.

[NeoNilox]

Feeding it at Neutral is MUCH safer and faster because going from Hungry to VERY Hungry takes much shorter time than Stuffed>Neutral.

It is indeed safe, since Hungry > VeryHungry takes around same time (somewhat less) than Stuffed > Satisfied. But what if your pet is Loyal already?

And I'm always aware of that because... either the pet speeches (they vary according the hunger state) or I always leave the pet window open.

[Helios0]

it takes about 600 seconds between meals

example

1 - neutral
2 - hungry
3 - hungry - feed - Stuffed
4 - stuffed
.
.
599 - neutral
600 - neutral
601 - Hungry


Awkward- Less than 100 - Ready to abandon its owner
Shy- 100–249 - Uses unhappy emotes such as /pif and /wah
Neutral - 250–749 - Uses friendly emotes such as /no1 and /ok
Cordial - 750–909 - Uses affectionate emotes such as /lv and /kis
Loyal - 910–1000 - Talks often and uses affectionate emotes

• Only feed it when its hunger is at Hungry
• A pet is given a random number of intimacy points between 250–399 when it's first hatched
• The higher level the pet is, the less intimacy it will begin with
• Higher level pets get less intimacy per feeding (porings get intimate VERY QUICKLY, white lady... not so much.. )
• Your pet will then make an emote, letting you know it has eaten. It should give you the /ok emote. If you continue to feed it, it will give the /hmm or /pif emote. Feed it again and it will use the /omg emote and die.
• A pet’s intimacy decreases by 15 points when its owner dies. Intimacy doesn't decrease when a pet is returned to its egg.

Edited by Helios0, 16 September 2012 - 02:32 PM.

[Dmentd]

Only feed it when its hunger is at Hungry

Helios, where did you get this?

[Helios0]

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Pet_System

[Dmentd]

I see it, but I don't agree; it's bad advice, I think; too easy for you to miss it and have the pet slip into "Very Hungry." Feed at neutral.

[CeruleanGamer]

I see it, but I don't agree; it's bad advice, I think; too easy for you to miss it and have the pet slip into "Very Hungry." Feed at neutral.

For raising intimacy, feeding at neutral yields much faster loyal pet.

Pet food isn't that expensive and the pets who get hungry really fast have very cheap food anyway.....

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 16 September 2012 - 03:08 PM.

[Tetsamaru]

These pet threads amuses me to know end due to the fact that EVERYONE seems to have like their own personal guide to raising a pet. I myself feed my pet at Hungry, not neutral.

Hell, the weakening the monster via pokemon mechanics to tame monsters is STILL a big issue.

(not a complaint, just an observation).

[NeoNilox]

I have 2 personal conditions:

• If my pet's intimacy is below Loyal, feed it when hunger is Neutral. This is because the time taken for Stuffed > Hungry is triple long than Stuffed > Neutral, and intimacy gained from feeding it in Hungry is not triple at all. I don't think it's even double.
• If my pet's intimacy is Loyal, feed it when hunger is Hungry. Again, this is because the time taken between the hunger states, feeding it in Hungry helps me to save food, and I don't need to keep raising the intimacy urgently.

If my pets were ever reached to VeryHungry state, it's because of my carelessness than anything else. Though some speeches are rather hilarious (Poporing: "Thank you, I kept thinking I was lime Jell-O")

[Tetsamaru]

If my pets were ever reached to VeryHungry state, it's because of my carelessness than anything else. Though some speeches are rather hilarious (Poporing: "Thank you, I kept thinking I was lime Jell-O")

Alice: How will you ever be able to take care of your wife when you can't even take care of me!?

[BoingBoing]

Feeding it at Neutral is MUCH safer and faster because going from Hungry to VERY Hungry takes much shorter time than Stuffed>Neutral.

@Boing: Yes. You should see the Imp pet. It takes like 20-25 mins getting from Stuffed to Neutral. while the Bacsojin takes like less thna 5 mins.

Interesting, I've always thought otherwise. Because supposedly, the time delay for hunger decrease is the same for all pets, but the intimacy gained per feeding is different.

That just goes to show how pserver db's are can be very wrong.

Name Hunger Delay IntimacyGainedPerFeed IntimacyLossPerOverFeed
PORING 80 60 50 100
DROPS 80 60 40 100
POPORING 80 60 30 100
LUNATIC 80 60 40 100
PICKY 80 60 40 100
CHONCHON 80 60 30 100
STEEL_CHONCHON 80 60 20 100
HUNTER_FLY 80 60 10 100
SAVAGE_BABE 80 60 40 100
DESERT_WOLF_B 80 60 40 100
ROCKER 80 60 30 100
SPORE 80 60 30 100
POISON_SPORE 80 60 20 100
PECOPECO 80 60 30 100
SMOKIE 80 60 30 100
YOYO 80 60 20 100
ORK_WARRIOR 80 60 20 100
MUNAK 80 60 20 100
DOKEBI 80 60 20 100
SOHEE 80 60 10 100
ISIS 80 60 10 100
PETIT 80 60 20 100
DEVIRUCHI 80 60 10 100
BAPHOMET_ 80 60 10 100
BON_GUN 80 60 30 100
ZHERLTHSH 80 60 10 100
ALICE 80 60 20 100
EVENT_RICECAKE 80 60 50 100
GOBLINE_XMAS 80 60 50 100
CHUNG_E 80 60 50 100
ECLIPSE_P 80 60 50 100
GOBLIN_1 80 60 50 100
GOBLIN_2 80 60 50 100
GOBLIN_4 80 60 50 100
DELETER_ 80 60 20 100
DIABOLIC 80 60 10 100
WANDER_MAN 80 60 20 100
GOLEM 80 60 20 100
MARIONETTE 80 60 10 100
MEDUSA 80 60 10 100
WHISPER 80 60 20 100
GOBLIN_LEADER 80 60 10 100
SUCCUBUS 80 60 10 100
INCUBUS 80 60 10 100
NIGHTMARE_TERROR 80 60 10 100
SHINOBI 80 60 20 100
MIYABI_NINGYO 80 60 15 100
WICKED_NYMPH 80 60 15 100
STONE_SHOOTER 80 60 20 100
DULLAHAN 80 60 10 100
LOLI_RURI 80 60 15 100
CIVIL_SERVANT 80 60 10 100
LEAF_CAT 80 60 20 100
BACSOJIN_ 80 60 10 100
IMP 80 60 10 100

[Helios0]

Pets like Bacsojin or Shinobi get neutral satiation at 4-5 minutes, so you must be attentive with those pets.

wrong
I have a White Lady/Bacsojin Pet

when i have her out i have a desktop Timer that goes off at set intervals and its very accurate



Cute Pets and Homunculus have identical hunger
the only difference is the UI

Cute pets get Stuffed/neutral/hungry/etc while Homunculus get a number from 1-100

but the rate is the same 25 hunger = Hungry

Edited by Helios0, 16 September 2012 - 05:33 PM.

[beaupoem]

i think you were thinking stuffed --> hungry. shinobi pet DOES get to neutral in about 5 min.

and i'm pretty sure it took my poring pet ~25 min to get from stuffed --> hungry

[NeoNilox]

So, if my theory is right, the rates might be...

• Stuffed (100 ~ 91)
• Satisfied (90 ~ 75)
• Neutral (74 ~ 25)
• Hungry (24 ~ 15) *hmm*
• Very Hungry (14 ~ 0) *hmm*

Sadly, I still don't know how fast the "hunger" decreases per minute, which depends on the pet itself.

[Helios0]

it would be easy to test by record the time the state takes to change from one example stuffed --> neutral --> Hungry and noting at what point it goes from stuffed to neutral and neutral to hungry

creating a table then using a baseline pet rate to establish a ratio

[Dmentd]

If my pet's intimacy is below Loyal, feed it when hunger is Neutral. This is because the time taken for Stuffed > Hungry is triple long than Stuffed > Neutral, and intimacy gained from feeding it in Hungry is not triple at all. I don't think it's even double.
If my pet's intimacy is Loyal, feed it when hunger is Hungry. Again, this is because the time taken between the hunger states, feeding it in Hungry helps me to save food, and I don't need to keep raising the intimacy urgently.

^this.