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[Havenn]

Yea the only reason that AS is more practical is because you can use it WAYY more.

Leveling with CC on normal mobs, the AS card is a must for max damage - AK only adds miniboss/MVP dmg

you sacrifice maybe an aditional 5k AB dmg, to be able to use the sword for everything

[Kadelia]

Better to have the more versatile sword because realistically the few k you could possibly squeeze out of a specialized AK weapon won't affect the # of bombs you need and thus has no practical purpose.

[sb120495]

I missed the offer anyways.Excuse me while i bang my head against a wall.

[DrAzzy]

My calculator says the difference is around 1%, about half that with stat foods, and if you're a heavy int build, the advantage of the AK one vanishes.

Better to have the more versatile sword because realistically the few k you could possibly squeeze out of a specialized AK weapon won't affect the # of bombs you need and thus has no practical purpose.

Hey! Screenshotting sexy damage numbers is a practical purpose.

Edited by DrAzzy, 25 January 2013 - 07:29 AM.

[Kadelia]

Someone should just sticky a thread titled "+12 Triple Kingbird Twin Edge (red) is the best Genetic MVP weapon" and the body should just say "see title".

Cuz it gets asked WAY too often.

Edited by Jaye, 25 January 2013 - 10:03 AM.

[NukeDuke]

why stop there? is getting over +12 impractical? A +20 would be the ultimate.

Weapon Lv. 4 - Every +1 upgrade gives 7 ATK, 0~14 ATK for every Over Upgrade pass the +4 safety limit, and 12 ATK for every High Upgrade pass +15.
A +20 level 4 weapon gives 201~424 extra ATK and MATK.

[ShiveringShadows]

why stop there? is getting over +12 impractical?

Yes. Quite costly.

Edited by ShiveringShadows, 25 January 2013 - 11:29 AM.

[DrAzzy]

Well, +12 is ~$12 after KP discount, and it goes up by factor of 10 for each + after that...

So a +20 would, on average, involve spending $1.2 BILLION dollars on HD ores...

So yeah.

And Jaye, if anything, it should be "Triple Kingbird Twin Edge (red) is the best Genetic weapon". Because it's not quite the best MVP weapon (3x AK beats trip kingbird by a fraction of a percent, and well enchanted byeo beats it by several), but it's undoubtedly the best all around weapon.

[NukeDuke]

I am just going to take a wild guess that the numbers are so small from +12 that it is comparable to the lottery or worst . Until they add safe to +15 or something like that.

Edited by NukeDuke, 25 January 2013 - 11:56 AM.

[DrAzzy]

I am just going to take a wild guess that the numbers are so small from +12 that it is comparable to the lottery or worst . Until they add safe to +15 or something like that.

Rates are same as rate from +9->10 (ie, 10% for armor and level 4 weaps, 20% for lvl 1-3 weaps), and yes, chance to win powerball is higher than chance to get +20 armor on one go.

Edited by DrAzzy, 25 January 2013 - 11:58 AM.

[michaeleeli]

Ok fine I will make a very simple easy-to-read guide of the best mvp weapon for gene. wait a sec ^o^

Edited by michaeleeli, 25 January 2013 - 01:58 PM.

[DrAzzy]

Ok fine I will make a very simple easy-to-read guide of the best mvp weapon for gene. wait a sec ^o^

I think we were just joking around, proposing a guide that consisted of that one line. At least I was joking around :-P

[michaeleeli]

Ok please go read the 1st post of this thread and point out all the wrongies i wrote (i bet there's some..and of course we can keep discussing to make things more clear =3). thanks!

[michaeleeli]

Rates are same as rate from +9->10 (ie, 10% for armor and level 4 weaps, 20% for lvl 1-3 weaps), and yes, chance to win powerball is higher than chance to get +20 armor on one go.

Are you absolutely sure on this =O!? So, a lv3 weapon would have 20% chance to +12 -> +13?
No wonder my friend made a +14 OAB yesterday with 5 ores. Also took him 1 ore to +10 it. Lol.

[Havenn]

Gunna be funny when i find a better answer to this =p

[kasshin]

Pin this thread and edit the genetic guide to link to this?

[Kadelia]

And Jaye, if anything, it should be "Triple Kingbird Twin Edge (red) is the best Genetic weapon". Because it's not quite the best MVP weapon (3x AK beats trip kingbird by a fraction of a percent, and well enchanted byeo beats it by several), but it's undoubtedly the best all around weapon.

No that would be if it was titled "most damage" it'd be wrong. But "best" factors in a lot of other things. It's costly and pointless to make the other ones you mentioned and the weapon is less useful, so I'd say they're inferior choices, even if the damage can be better (conditionally with or without drawbacks too)

[NukeDuke]

Should just make it like " best all purpose weapon"

[Qani]

What is this Expert Archer enchant people are speaking of? Where can I read about it?
Thanks

I'm a noob.

[michaeleeli]

What is this Expert Archer enchant people are speaking of? Where can I read about it?
Thanks

I'm a noob.

There are a fair amount of RO players who have actually been trained in archery. These players submit the proof of their licence/past competitions of their archery skills, and when it gets validated, you get a scroll in-game that lets you add +10% ranged attack to any weapon you desire.

[Kadelia]

There are a fair amount of RO players who have actually been trained in archery. These players submit the proof of their licence/past competitions of their archery skills, and when it gets validated, you get a scroll in-game that lets you add +10% ranged attack to any weapon you desire.

It's actually 2% per grade of your certification and it can be applied twice (expert archer 6 being 12% and a max of 24% obviously).

[Havenn]

sick and twisted

[DrAzzy]

What is this Expert Archer enchant people are speaking of? Where can I read about it?
Thanks

I'm a noob.

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Malangdo_Enchants

[Joaco]

Is a +11 Bye EA3 EA4 better than a +12 Red twin triple AS ?

[michaeleeli]

Is a +11 Bye EA3 EA4 better than a +12 Red twin triple AS ?

= =you obviously didn't read the first thing on this thread..