Proposal: Another Raffle Prior to the Merge
#1
Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:27 AM
Shoving the raffler back in right now would yield great results to the economy as many people would rather trade in their zenies for Ygg flower, Ygg seeds, Witch Starsand, and a chance at a valuable item.
#2
Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:28 AM
#3
Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:02 AM
goodbye zeny
#4
Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:16 AM
#5
Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:22 AM
It's not really a trade or as some people put it, "gambling", so much as it is a rip-off.This would probably be a very good time for a raffle since many people are too lazy to make 20 chars++ just to store their zenies.
Shoving the raffler back in right now would yield great results to the economy as many people would rather trade in their zenies for Ygg flower, Ygg seeds, Witch Starsand, and a chance at a valuable item.
Rich people were never spending on it. It was just poor people, and the poor spending money doesn't really benefit the economy much. Also, barely anyone was doing the Raffler after the first few days because he was pretty pointless. The *only* prize maybe worth gambling on was a Kafra Blossom Card - everything else was a nearly guaranteed loss of profit.
And if it is readded for whatever reason, for the love of dirt disable the server-wide messages. No one cares what he's currently raffling (if we did we'd be near him) or who won what (or in the case of its last week or two, who wasn't betting on anything and it timing out).
#6
Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:47 AM
It's not really a trade or as some people put it, "gambling", so much as it is a rip-off.
Rich people were never spending on it. It was just poor people, and the poor spending money doesn't really benefit the economy much. Also, barely anyone was doing the Raffler after the first few days because he was pretty pointless. The *only* prize maybe worth gambling on was a Kafra Blossom Card - everything else was a nearly guaranteed loss of profit.
And if it is readded for whatever reason, for the love of dirt disable the server-wide messages. No one cares what he's currently raffling (if we did we'd be near him) or who won what (or in the case of its last week or two, who wasn't betting on anything and it timing out).
The +10 cert one was where ALL the profit was. 1.5 seeds on average for 250k that's like 166k per seed. I would just raffle as fast as I could till I got the +10 cert and sell the cert immediately for 100m. I have 9000 ygg seeds and broke completely even selling the certs. Basically 9000 ygg seeds for free, if I vend those for 200k each which is around the running price that's 1.8b profit.
#7
Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:17 AM
#8
Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:20 AM
So that they don't bother anyway because they know a merge is coming?NEEDS TO BE A RAFFLE THAT HAS HIGHER COST ON VALK AND LOWER COST ON YGG TO MAKE THE YGG PEOPLE LESS AT A DISADVANTAGE AfTER MERGE..
#9
Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:58 PM
#10
Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:59 PM
Just selling your ygg items for valk prices will make up for the so-called "disadvantage".
Sucks for anyone from ymir or ygg that were holding onto zeny
#11
Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:01 PM
#12
Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:46 PM
raise prices of every kafra shop item by 25-30% for a 1-2 week period. put in a groove pack with a relatively decent "always get" item at an increased kafra point value as well say 250 instead of 150 points
at the same time, offer all these items including the groove pack to be bought with zeny at a rate slightly lower than the wpe/zeny rate of the server
allow for 1-2 weeks, ppl to buy directly wpe with zeny from your website at a slightly higher rate than what ppl are selling for (example valk server is 180m-200m/1k, sell 1k wpe for 210m) ppl will buy it from you since its less hassle, dont have to worry about scams, etc
since upgrading is already crap and ppl have high upgraded gears, put an npc for a week that gives increased rates from 7-12 for the respective npcs for a much higher increased zeny cost in upgrading
my post from another thread, principle applies although slightly altered since merge of course as jayed pointed out
Edited by Andini, 06 December 2012 - 01:47 PM.
#13
Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:47 PM
#14
Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:23 PM
Then, secretly actually make it NOT give the prize, thus letting all the bot players get tricked and spend all their gazillion zeny in it, and that normal players (hopefully) won't even bother trying the 0.00001%.
#15
Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:37 PM
#16
Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:47 PM
They really should start selling kp consumables/enriched ores for zeny for a while.. Not like it would make any difference though, as they would just allow all the zeny to be botted right back to ridiculousmy post from another thread, principle applies although slightly altered since merge of course as jayed pointed out
#17
Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:48 PM
#18
Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:06 PM
#19
Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:07 PM
Not a bad idea, though we'd definitely need to change up the items being auctioned...what kind of things would you guys not be totally tired of seeing shouted about in town?We need more raffles. I don't much care whether it's before or after merge. But we need to remove a huge amount of zeny from the economy.
#20
Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:17 PM
Not a bad idea, though we'd definitely need to change up the items being auctioned...what kind of things would you guys not be totally tired of seeing shouted about in town?
As far as prizes go...I thought Eden Merit Badges were good. KVM badges aren't bad either. I thought the last prize set was pretty decent, but maybe there could be something like a super rare headgear that barely anyone has and is really cute. I know some people were going crazy over the heart ribbon hairband, so many something like that would draw a lot of attention. Also, I don't know if it would be possible to do, but I think having tickets that will change your currently equipped headgear into a costume headgear would also draw a lot of attention.
Edited by Ramen, 06 December 2012 - 03:23 PM.
#21
Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:17 PM
#22
Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:19 PM
#23
Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:57 PM
I'd rather not see the announcements outside of Prontera. Also the KVM badge prize was 100% pointless. The Eden Merit Badge one was the same value (20 EMBs = 100 KVM badges)... at 4x less cost, so remove that one.Not a bad idea, though we'd definitely need to change up the items being auctioned...what kind of things would you guys not be totally tired of seeing shouted about in town?
#24
Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:52 PM
And a BMx3 raffle too, with prize medals as consolation prizes.
And enriched ores, with NORMAL ores as consolation prizes (YES NO ROUGH FOR YOU GOD ITEM MAKERS)
Edited by asayuu, 06 December 2012 - 04:53 PM.
#25
Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:40 PM
I already asked you about this before Crown of Deceit in raffler for 1M a try.Not a bad idea, though we'd definitely need to change up the items being auctioned...what kind of things would you guys not be totally tired of seeing shouted about in town?
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