33 replies to this topic

[Azyrk]

Hats,
3x BM,
2x gums,
rare cards (low price insanely small chance; higher price, small chance)--no MVP cards. (although would DEFINITELY sink a lot of zeny).
A decent amount of KVM
Eden badge
god pieces? - High price / low chance. Might not be SO BAD since the drop rate is rather crap.
Convex mirrors is a really good idea.

Edited by Azyrk, 06 December 2012 - 05:50 PM.

[KamiKali]

rare cards is stupid god pieces is retarded as f/ck

[Ambur]

Not a bad idea, though we'd definitely need to change up the items being auctioned...what kind of things would you guys not be totally tired of seeing shouted about in town?

Can't you just make it shout in Prontera? Or make it a different color. It floods the chat too much and those that want to raffle will already be on that map.

[Azyrk]

rare cards is stupid god pieces is retarded as f/ck

mad?

[Magefist]

Actually KamiKali is right.

[eerie]

<.< If highly valuable items are even considered, the cost per gamble should be relative to its expense. I know it would be everyones dream to own a ghostring, but without fair -> poor odds and high cost... What's the point? A gamble should be a gamble, not a seemingly outright purchase. As for default losing rewards, they shouldn't variate. When people figured out that raffle wasn't worth the effort on loss... They gave up on it.

A good example could possibly be:

1 HE BM = 300,000 - 500,000 Z per try with 40-60 blanks as a reward on loss.

OR

1 3x BM = 750,000 - 1,000,000 Z per try with 120 blanks as a reward on loss.

Whatever the choice ultimately ends up being, the resulting loss should be less significant then the intended zeny sink. While still being enough to entice players to spend their money on raffle.

[MrTyranitar]

<.< If highly valuable items are even considered, the cost per gamble should be relative to its expense. I know it would be everyones dream to own a ghostring, but without fair -> poor odds and high cost... What's the point? A gamble should be a gamble, not a seemingly outright purchase. As for default losing rewards, they shouldn't variate. When people figured out that raffle wasn't worth the effort on loss... They gave up on it.

A good example could possibly be:

1 HE BM = 300,000 - 500,000 Z per try with 40-60 blanks as a reward on loss.

OR

1 3x BM = 750,000 - 1,000,000 Z per try with 120 blanks as a reward on loss.

Whatever the choice ultimately ends up being, the resulting loss should be less significant then the intended zeny sink. While still being enough to entice players to spend their money on raffle.

lol no one would bet on anything like that.

It'd be completely pointless. I do wish they'd put some BMs in the Eden Merit Badge exchanger, though.
People can say what they want about not having high-worth items (god components/MVPs/DR/GR/etc) there, but it's going to be the only way to get rich people to actually SPEND money. If the rich aren't spending money it's pointless to keep.

Edited by MrTyranitar, 07 December 2012 - 12:34 AM.

[asayuu]

Think about this rough calculation:

Price of item on the most expensive server. (When item has no price, use multiples)

Apply 25%~50% to the price of that item. ROUND UP if necessary.

Divide by a chosen number of odds. (Hint: Use multiples of 500)

Done, price of each bet.

Then for the losing prize, add items based on the half of the price of the bet.

Spoiler

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Example: 10x Enriched Oridecon box ( http://ragial.com/it...ie/HbXm5a42iCIe )
Actual Valkyrie Average: 39m.

Applying 25% on the price of the box: 48.75m. Round up to 50m.

Making the odds 1:1000, divide 50000000/1000 = 50000z per bet.

Losing prize = half of 50000z = 25000z.
Rough Oridecon average = 10000z.

Losing prize = 1 to 3 Rough Oridecons.

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If instead you want to make people spend more money, apply the 50%, you can also halve the odds if you want the item to drop more often.


Example: 10x Enriched Oridecon box ( http://ragial.com/it...ie/HbXm5a42iCIe )
Actual Valkyrie Average: 39m.

Applying 50% on the price of the box: 58.5m. Round up to 60m.

Making the odds 1:500, divide 60000000/500 = 120000z per bet.

Losing prize = half of 120000z = 60000z.
Rough Oridecon average = 10000z.

Losing prize = 4 to 7 Rough Oridecons, or 0 to 2 Pure Oridecons

Edited by asayuu, 07 December 2012 - 04:50 AM.

[Beata]

Well, they can add SOME MvP cards but in a toned down version or with double the debuffs..etc. But no to MvP cards/gods pieces even though people surely will drain their zenys here like mad lol.