The Mage - 2nd Class
#1
Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:05 PM
Keep in mind that we are not looking to create overpowered situations and not all suggestions will be considered valid if they are outside the design scope of the class.
#2
Posted 22 June 2013 - 08:32 PM
I suggest they have stuns and other debuffs with like 5 secs or around that. Something actually useful. I always thought that 1sec debuffs are stupid.
#3
Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:36 AM
Whats the use of a passive magic defense skill, a physical defense would be better against long range monster or in pvp.
For now i am very disappointed in the job muse/mage.
Mage have no escapes without a cleric nearby.
That means that playing it solo is not done.
Mage is it was and as it is in test is a joke.
Edited by Prashanti, 01 July 2013 - 04:24 AM.
#4
Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:40 AM
#5
Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:09 AM
A maxed Arual Pierce with charm only increased my mage's damage by 100. A pvp only skill considering its cooldown.
#6
Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:18 AM
#7
Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:36 AM
Edited by Genesis, 01 July 2013 - 08:37 AM.
#8
Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:33 PM
1 - sometimes the skill makes only 5 damage (this also happens in the actual server. It's not a miss, like Leonis said, because it happens in grey mobs)
2 - mage AOE oftens miss when attacking many mobs. In the live server if you go into Ulverick dungeon, you can see that like 50% of the time the AOE miss like 90% of the mobs. This seems to be a glitch and also happens in Pegasus.
#9
Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:00 PM
There were a couple major points given to Muse/Mages to help with their survivability.
Range was increased significantly for all their skills naturally.
On top of this, you can extend that range further, with a class passive.
Last, the new Mana Shield, buff which acts as an additional HP buffer so you can utilize a portion of your MP pool as a damage sponge, before it reaches your HP bar. Given that you should eventually regenerate MP faster than HP in the end, it was designed to be a very useful utility spell to help you survive.
Now the effect is still being worked on for visibility, so you can know how much of a shield you have left on you, so you know when to recast it or get out of harms way.
rodolfocm, those issues shouldn't be around anymore as we've done several fixes to address them. If you have an example of where this is happening, your level, build, skill being used and monster attacking, is needed so we can reproduce the condition that it happens under.
#10
Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:08 PM
There were a couple major points given to Muse/Mages to help with their survivability.
Range was increased significantly for all their skills naturally.
On top of this, you can extend that range further, with a class passive.
Last, the new Mana Shield, buff which acts as an additional HP buffer so you can utilize a portion of your MP pool as a damage sponge, before it reaches your HP bar. Given that you should eventually regenerate MP faster than HP in the end, it was designed to be a very useful utility spell to help you survive.
Now the effect is still being worked on for visibility, so you can know how much of a shield you have left on you, so you know when to recast it or get out of harms way.
rodolfocm, those issues shouldn't be around anymore as we've done several fixes to address them. If you have an example of where this is happening, your level, build, skill being used and monster attacking, is needed so we can reproduce the condition that it happens under.
Weird...I have this problem all the time here.
Can I send those information on private message?
#11
Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:44 PM
If you wish to, sure, but I don't see why you can't post here too for others to see and perhaps try testing as well.
#12
Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:57 PM
If you wish to, sure, but I don't see why you can't post here too for others to see and perhaps try testing as well.
Don't feel like showing my build.
Sending right now.
#13
Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:53 PM
I tried the mana shield skill and i must say i like it.
No idea how it works in pvp but for now it makes a big difference...compliments!!
#14
Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:05 AM
Yeah I like that skill for clerics as well.
#15
Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:12 AM
That skill is awesome, it helps me so much.
#16
Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:28 AM
I'm very happy to see how many of you are enjoying its implementation.
We can work on enhancing the tooltip so that it makes more sense in how it works.
Currently, how it works is the Current MP% is how much of your current MP you have (not max, but actual available MP). What it will do is it will create a shield barrier, like an HP buffer, off of that amount. The cast cost is always going to be a % of your available or current MP. MP Consumption can reduce that amount down though.
So, effectively, you are creating a barrier to sponge damage, by converting your available MP to temporary HP. However, since it always creates that shield based on how much MP you have, if you cast it when you have a low amount of MP, it will be a fairly weak shield or buffer.
There are some visual enhancements we have planned for the caster of the effect, but not quite ready yet. For now, I think adding to the ToolTip the amount your shield will absorb in damage, can help you gauge better its usefulness and how long it will last in a fight.
#17
Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:31 AM
Is it only me or everyone thinks the Frost Ring skill is total useless? I don't see a reason for a skill that doesn't do damage and only slows down the m-speed for mobs around me.
Also why did we lose mute skill? And Cold Snap animation is TOO slow (against a Raider he can hit me before the animation is over in a PVP).
Edited by rodolfocm, 04 July 2013 - 03:34 AM.
#18
Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:12 AM
too many passives, maxing the passives in 1st and 2nd job takes about 100+ skill points (not counting the common skill tree passives) O.o
some skills are also repetitive...
Edited by kwayan19, 04 July 2013 - 06:17 AM.
#19
Posted 04 July 2013 - 07:58 AM
too many passives, maxing the passives in 1st and 2nd job takes about 100+ skill points (not counting the common skill tree passives) O.o
some skills are also repetitive...
Totally agree.
There's too many skills (passives and offensives).
#20
Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:27 PM
Noob question: what does charm do for a mage? and how much do i put to see any effect?
#21
Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:37 PM
it increases debuffs like burn etc
#22
Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:31 PM
Some notes on the Mage class:
Fierce Cudgeling and Staff Stun originally had a skill power to them (when I first obtained the skill) then I realize somewhere after maxing them and or relogging they both became 0% + 0 skill power.
As far as Fierce Cudgeling goes, this skill is already controversial as it is on the live server with a 20 second cooldown. Giving it a 2 second cooldown just isn't going to work even if the effect of buffs are weakened. Honestly the cooldown should be left as it is normally (20 seconds).
Thunder Storm is going to be overpowered being it is a ranged aoe 3 second stun with 50% success. Remember the threads about Artisans and Bourgs stunning in Crystal Defenders? Stuns are very strong in pvp especially when they can hit multiple targets at once, likewise 3 seconds is a long time. I want to say reduce it to 1 second. If anything maybe increase the success a little (60%?).
The burn status on the fire skills is very weak. It would be intuitive to be able to influence the threshold rather than have them deal a small set amount of damage. I heard you (Leonis) wanted to make them influenced by attack power but I feel like attack power is already the main go to stat for damage, and for something indirect like this I think charm would fit better.
Also, what happened to the mute status effect?
Lastly with the removal of reliable skills, and mages lackluster accuracy I feel they should be able to hit a little more often. They might be worthy of a small accuracy passive.
Mana shield is a godsend and it fits Mages and helps them well. I don't want to jump the gun but I feel this skill might need a longer cooldown. Skill range passives are nice too.
Edited by Phish, 05 July 2013 - 06:42 PM.
#23
Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:46 PM
The unique skill "Anti Magic Shell" was nerfed? Now it only debuffs 1 buff in 50% chance every 2 minutes.
Also, the removal of reliable skill are really painful, even more with the accuracy nerf/dodge buff - idk which of those, I can't hit a Raider for my life.
#24
Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:04 PM
i don't mind we miss the debuff skill, its annoying for the community.
What i do miss like KTFlashmentioned is the accuracy passive, to hit a raider is nearly impossible.
#25
Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:26 AM
Also I'd like to add that overtime damages (burns, posion) goes through the mana shield (ignores the shield, depletes the hp). Working as intended?
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