so yeah there goes the BT nerf .. am sure everybody is happy now.. ^_^

will be curious how much it will affect my knight right after maint

Edited by VanS3n, 24 October 2016 - 04:51 PM.

I'm really interested to see how PvP pans out now. Those 3 changes do so much. Without 2x hide dmg and btactics, I forsee a rise in pvp redu tanks like monk and BM being like impossible to kill, as well as pvp redu SM. Assassin is probably dead since they can't deal enough immediate dmg to kill redu SM/priests in one assault now, everyone gonna just switch to rogue since fracture is still completely broken. The judex nerf is so freaking huge in terms of WoE, I don't think anyone can disagree how priest is the most broken class in WoE due to stunning whole raids forever.

RIP PVE for warriors and knights, this class keep doing most of the hard work in raids and now you only thing in you PVP base, you don't improve bosses damage, raids concept, clases nerf (wizard, bears and rangers and the damage they can do), nothing, this is a disaster for PVE concept. 

it's disastrous for pve...blop and serenia H especially if they dun nerf the mobs too.

Hey everyone.

A couple of notes:

• These are far from the last balance changes we're working on, but we knew some of these needed a fix for a long time. If you are asking, "What about this balance issue over here?" then make sure you're posting to our forum for discussion.
• Swag/Kafra stuff becoming unbound was mostly to ease the amount of support tickets coming in for the item, which delays everyones ticket response. We also don't like restricting items in an MMO where there's an in-game market that could be used. This change is retroactive, so all prior IDs will be unbound.
• We're investigating inflation causers to try and help reign in prices because it's unfair to new users. Ancient Warriors pricing just seemed like someone had misplaced a decimal when they went in.

Most of the remaining balance issues aren't really to do with the classes as much as they are with CLS runes in PvP. Swag costumes allowing 45% pvp bonuses is just not okay. SM would be killable without that extra 45% redu. Priest DoTs wouldn't be as massive of an issue if they didn't get 45% more inc (tho them ignoring defense is still an issue). There's only a few select skill issues like fracture, ignition, shadow armor and cruel bite coming to mind, and also buff classes with tons of bad skills (bm, ranger, wiz).

Can you comment on letting us use +80 int runes in all costumes? Everyone is just gonna wear 3s swag/kafra ruby now and look the same. It's just gonna be boring.

Edited by 9632130515120055620, 24 October 2016 - 05:03 PM.

what's the point of getting swag/kafra then?

what's the point of getting swag/kafra then?

what's the point of getting swag/kafra then?

because kafra/swag have Purpleseeds Slot Rune, so it will be good to help your character get more stat from +80 Runes.. because +80 Runes only useable on Purpleseeds Slot Rune.. and also you can put Rune of Chung Lim Sa on Kafra/Swag rune slot.. it will increase your pvp stat..

Edited by iVanillaMint, 24 October 2016 - 05:11 PM.

Guys, u can still transmorg to look different, during pvp or pve, u wont have time admire other people costume, u will focus on ur role to finish the task. Costume is one of a way to look different. The choice is given, its up to you to choose what you want to wear.

no..i mean if normal costume can slot in +80s then what is the purpose of getting swag?

no..i mean if normal costume can slot in +80s then what is the purpose of getting swag?

There's no other arm/shoe/pants costumes in game for one.

Once swag becomes tradable there's no point of choosing between the other like 100 different costume designs in the game since they become asthmatically inferior. You just invalidated like all of the costumes in the game because they can't share the same stats. Isn't the allure of being able to farm a full 3 slot costume set (well most of it) for basically free enough of a point of trying to get it?

Edited by 9632130515120055620, 24 October 2016 - 05:15 PM.

>> Does Vanity items be affected as well when dismantled?

Edited by SeeMei, 24 October 2016 - 05:22 PM.

There's no other arm/shoe/pants costumes in game for one.

 

Once swag becomes tradable there's no point of choosing between the other like 100 different costume designs in the game since they become asthmatically inferior. You just invalidated like all of the costumes in the game because they can't share the same stats. Isn't the allure of being able to farm a full 3 slot costume set (well most of it) for basically free enough of a point of trying to get it?

those ro1 3s with stat price is gonna skyrocket.

those ro1 3s with stat price is gonna skyrocket.

Not really. Sure they're like mathematically superior but would you really spend a couple hundred thousand zeny over other costumes just to get those 12 stats in each place when some don't even matter to your class? Those 12 stats do like almost nothing in gameplay since they're so tiny.

Now compare a costume now to a swag costume set, not counting pants/glove/shoe costumes that you can't get with normal costumes

3 slot costume+hat = +300 stats

3 slot swag costume+hat = +480 stats

How is that ok?

Edited by 9632130515120055620, 24 October 2016 - 05:38 PM.

Testing.....warrior lost more than half his damage, GOOD JOB WARPPORTAL. 

Well... A bit of a heads up

You know you can always ask for PvE nerf, right...?

If it feels like doing JDQ is painfully hard, i'm sure the dev will react accordingly

Their goal is definitely NOT trying to make our life miserable..

Edited by chongoq, 24 October 2016 - 06:00 PM.

This is sooooooooooooooooooo sad, i am NOT re-honning my set for this, I AM NOT farming-questing for like 39 new runes!!!!, I AM LESS THAN HALF DAMAGE,  RIP Warriors and Knights......................................................

Tanks can be tanks again... not OP damagers

Hiders can go back DPS... not 1 shot killers (well most of them anyways)

Priests can go back to dotting and healing.... not raid stunners

so whats the fuss?

Edited by KuroiKoneko, 24 October 2016 - 06:39 PM.

mmmmmmm, finally the glorious QQ'ing from BT lovers <3 <3 <3

p.s. about RR and honing resets, why you didn't stock them just in case if you got int on your swordie?

was waiting for this....

Priests can go back to dotting and healing.... not raid stunners

so whats the fuss?

20-30k priest dot is normal then? The support class have more dot than the dps class.
Good luck to those needing Lawless title when now crecentia is the only dps

errr... support class really have more dots than dps because dps usually dont have dots.

you only get 20-30k dot when you build it that way.

if you meant for pvp... that means you chose to put cls atk.. therefore sacrificing your defense. 

if you meant for pve... then full int hones and full +80int would give you just that...

soooo.. what's the fuss?

I mean as much as I hate battle tactics and am enjoying every tear I see from it being removed in pub right now, what you did do to the people who still want to play knight/war is really unfair. They have to rune remove everything, rehone everything and they didn't get any forewarning of this to stock up on stuff during doubloons event to prepare for it. If you're not gonna make kafra NPCs sell scrubs to end our honing suffering, extending the doubloons event by ~2 maints would be a lot fairer for those players.