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#76 nyyaan

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 07:53 PM

#1 should be "Rage quit from lack of updates".

 

I would not say that iRO lacked updates. For a second, lets pretend kRO didnt exist. I would be happy with updates iRO had been releasing. The problem is OCPs are better than in-game items and that all in-game MvPs die in 2-3 seconds and iRO doesnt have WoE. OCPs should've been WoE rewards. At least players wouldnt be able to abuse it with alt armies rofl

 

Now think of Global RoM for a second. What would happen later when we got updates on RoM and new MvPs died in OKHO? Only Whales/Bots would dominate Boss Hunts and new updates'd become obsolete. This is exactly what iRO is suffering and RoM is no different. In fact, its happening at a much faster pace. 

 

Global RoM is on EP 3.5 with EP. 5/6 (This daily log in reward). SEA RoM is 4 months old and it's on also EP. 3.5. Now getting EP. 4 (Juno town and new maps) and EP. 5 (Niff town and new maps) will also be fast but after that, it will take months. Why? Because CN RoM is 2 years old (if I'm not mistaken?) and it's currently on EP. 6 too. So no, I believe RoM doesnt release fast updates as we think it does. We are getting quick update because Gravity knows how to milk when the hype is still strong.

 

I like RoM. It is a good game to play "casually" with friends and all but cant take it seriously. I've learnt a lot about Gravity from iRO.


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 08:11 PM

Hello guys,

 

Don't care to naysayers, I just want to play this game. hahaha,

 

And I will support this game even in small amount.

 

PS : Been busy at my deadlines, but I will play this game as soon as I have free time, maybe tonight. ^^

 

 


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 09:06 PM

Just merge the servers already, WoE is so boring right now. 

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 09:30 PM

The link doesn't work for me personally.

 

If people want their character transferred then that is fine, but there should be nothing coming with them.

 

players are using OCP gears these days. if they're going to implement character server transfer then they should include their items with them also those items that are made after the migration. 

 

if they're planning on server merge then everybody is happy. We spent most of our time playing RO, some made it part of their life. We grew with it. you, I, them, we just want to enjoy this game because we love it.

 

some they don't want trashtalkers, bully and and and? live with it, it's part of any game. any game you're playing good and bad people exist.

 

more players, more fun. MERGE!


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 09:39 PM

Merge pls

Chaos needs 70m z entweihen crothen card

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 11:26 PM

I like RoM. It is a good game to play "casually" with friends and all but cant take it seriously. I've learnt a lot about Gravity from iRO.

 

Not heavily defending ROM in this case, the game is actually in similar direction with iRO but with few twist differences...

 

Think of this way, in ROM P2W players can't be OP with just equip alone while F2P ones can opt to grow characters with in-game quests/dungeons/anything. Every class can be needed in party depending on PvE situations. In comparison of PC version/iRO, the game only become playable for OCP/cash shops and class discriminations.

 

Regardless If the game got P2W, bots, bad balance, and/or bad economy, you need in-game content for the redemption. Being old game should not be excuses.
 


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 01:20 AM

players are using OCP gears these days. if they're going to implement character server transfer then they should include their items with them also those items that are made after the migration. 

 

if they're planning on server merge then everybody is happy. We spent most of our time playing RO, some made it part of their life. We grew with it. you, I, them, we just want to enjoy this game because we love it.

 

some they don't want trashtalkers, bully and and and? live with it, it's part of any game. any game you're playing good and bad people exist.

 

more players, more fun. MERGE!

 

No.


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:00 AM

I'm taking a rest....

 

waiting for AB rework patch  (AOE Adoramus  etc.)   :<


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:38 AM

Hello lads!

Let's stay on topic.

If you wish to discuss ROM then perhaps this thread is not the right place.


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:45 AM

Heya, maybe this is worth a try...

 

Instead of giving your opinions on other people's opinions, lets try something else. I don't want to contribute to any negative sentiments toward the state of iRO and made a mistake referencing how the CMs attributed population decline to ROM. I am specifically talking about how OCP items do not feel like they are worth keeping up with for the cost. If things keep derailing I'd rather have the thread locked and shuffled out of view. I am much more interested in what YOU think, rather than what you think about what I think.

 

Since I never asked a topic question in the OP: What do YOU think about the current state of OCP items, OCP rates, and OCP prices? What would you be comfortable putting into the game (financially) for a power advantage on a monthly basis? And what do you think would be a better way to access these items?

 

 


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:50 AM

150kp boxes with crate deals

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:56 AM

No.

 why no? for character transfer or merge? 

 

I think you're the one who suggested that if they implement character transfer then OCP items should be included during the transfer because it was bought in iRO. if so include also those gears made after migration.

 

for merge? don't know the reason why no. because of market prices? time zones? OP gears from pRO (name those gears)? we only have 300-400 players during WOE and 150+ during normal days. how bout chaos? 

 

players can adjust on market prices depends on sellers and buyers. 

time zones: more asian countries already playing on Chaos and they can participate WOE depends on players how they can manage their time if they really want to play.

OP gears? +20? they can check each account.

Bots? you can report and ban, also, GMs  are active tracking on bots for both servers.

merge problems? other official servers did that before, even migrations. so why no for merge?

 

dont suggest to create a new character for old players, well in fact i did that, but after 5 minutes on eden, i returned back to thor thinking that i dont want to start over again.

 

they open janeway to attract more players, even exp mod, even monster token event but did you notice any changes? people/players who played this game before are the only players who will play this game till the end. that's the reality. those newbies/newly recruit, they dont have time to search and spent more time from novice to third job. that is why they preferred private servers to check out the game but the result is they will pick another game. those players who will stay are those players who really love this game.


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 02:57 AM

tldr; broken data and data transfer

but thats not a topic for now, it has also been discussed to death and it will not happen.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 03:06 AM

tldr; broken data and data transfer

but thats not a topic for now, it has also been discussed to death and it will not happen.

 

they developed game and program. they can, they're good, they're genius. anyway, it is always up to them. :) i will just sit back and pub on eden. 


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 03:10 AM

you put too much undeserved hope on the matter
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 03:36 AM

Hello lads!

Let's stay on topic.

If you wish to discuss ROM then perhaps this thread is not the right place.

 

What's the right place? Don't you guys publish ROM? There isn't even a forum for it and you expect the discussion to go to the right place. Lmao 


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 05:02 AM

they open janeway to attract more players, even exp mod, even monster token event but did you notice any changes? people/players who played this game before are the only players who will play this game till the end. that's the reality. those newbies/newly recruit, they dont have time to search and spent more time from novice to third job. that is why they preferred private servers to check out the game but the result is they will pick another game. those players who will stay are those players who really love this game.


rip if the only people who are going to play this game in the future is the same, we're going to be in our 60's and the game will still depend on our granny asses
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:55 AM

150kp boxes with crate deals


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This would generate more sales for WP, wouldn’t it? I certainly would open more OCP’s.

Lately I have been saving up KP only for the right time to open boxes that are worth it. I currently have 25k KP, but that new OCP box has the unverified rate for the Jupiter Ring and right now seems too costly to open it to get it.


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 12:10 PM

Heya, maybe this is worth a try...

 

Instead of giving your opinions on other people's opinions, lets try something else. I don't want to contribute to any negative sentiments toward the state of iRO and made a mistake referencing how the CMs attributed population decline to ROM. I am specifically talking about how OCP items do not feel like they are worth keeping up with for the cost. If things keep derailing I'd rather have the thread locked and shuffled out of view. I am much more interested in what YOU think, rather than what you think about what I think.

 

Since I never asked a topic question in the OP: What do YOU think about the current state of OCP items, OCP rates, and OCP prices? What would you be comfortable putting into the game (financially) for a power advantage on a monthly basis? And what do you think would be a better way to access these items?

 

I rather like all the new items being added each month though I don't love the lootbox system as the only way it is being made available. I tend to solo most of the time so with the current state of the game I switched from my preferred class of AB to Gene as all the new "content" being added with OCP has helped that class the most and it has greatly enhanced my enjoyment of the game. So again don't love the boxes or the rates on boxes though I tend to get lucky on what I want, 200+ boxes for my temporal ring not-withstanding... 

As for what I'm willing to spend I have 4 vip accounts and as long as I keep playing I won't consider less than 3 and in the future may go as high as 6 vip accounts. In addition to vip I do budget a minimum $100 a month on boxes.

Ideally would love to see the new items that currently go to OCP on their own in the cash shop with set KP prices while keeping the OCP boxes. I'd happily buy a Ring of Jupiter right now that doesn't need verification for as much as 4000 KP and on items I really wanted going to 10k KP - though there aren't too many of those left in the request thread that I've seen.

Also as far as items in the cash shop goes I think having key things like HBP in the cash shop would be a boon to newer players as it fixes major issues with the game (hitlock preventing looting), so in short revamp the cash shop!


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 10:26 PM

I rather like all the new items being added each month though I don't love the lootbox system as the only way it is being made available. I tend to solo most of the time so with the current state of the game I switched from my preferred class of AB to Gene as all the new "content" being added with OCP has helped that class the most and it has greatly enhanced my enjoyment of the game. So again don't love the boxes or the rates on boxes though I tend to get lucky on what I want, 200+ boxes for my temporal ring not-withstanding...
As for what I'm willing to spend I have 4 vip accounts and as long as I keep playing I won't consider less than 3 and in the future may go as high as 6 vip accounts. In addition to vip I do budget a minimum $100 a month on boxes.
Ideally would love to see the new items that currently go to OCP on their own in the cash shop with set KP prices while keeping the OCP boxes. I'd happily buy a Ring of Jupiter right now that doesn't need verification for as much as 4000 KP and on items I really wanted going to 10k KP - though there aren't too many of those left in the request thread that I've seen.
Also as far as items in the cash shop goes I think having key things like HBP in the cash shop would be a boon to newer players as it fixes major issues with the game (hitlock preventing looting), so in short revamp the cash shop!


FAW in cash shop
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 05:30 AM

Just merge the servers already, WoE is so boring right now. 

 

thor, idk, we're just making fun of everyone and the stupid OCP meta which i got two videos on it. but in reality. we don't have new players coming in for WOE. most of them will just quit before they even get max because the small population of thor cannot provide enough things for them

 

Chaos..they don't have any interest for woe. 

 

and also, the woe have magical shows of whitening sprites which the wp ignored it. and i just make memes on it. yah..kinda trying to enjoy but not really enjoying. i'm bored to to take the game with spirits. i have more spirits of getting waifus on azure lane


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Posted 20 March 2019 - 07:16 AM

So all of this debateful and uneventful thread just because Thor player begging wp to more woe participant on their server? Surpirsingly funny. If you want to increase the woe player, you should promote your server on your country (philipine). If you don't want woe look so op, limit yourself from using ocp gear on woe. If you want to join chaos server, just create new character instead begging for merge.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 07:35 AM

long time ago warpportal promised us never implemented MVP card Cash shop, a bullet was in our heads, :wah: made it worse! :wah: they simply threw an atomic bomb! :wall:  :wall:  :wall:  :wall:  @OCP.

 

I dont think even the MVP buff 90% reduction damage [episode 17] will solve this problem any more.

 

if it were to choose, MVP card is a better thing  :ok: , [but I'm against] :ok:

 

Only good thing that came was switch gear :thumb2:  tankz for it.


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Posted 20 March 2019 - 09:09 AM

What's the right place? Don't you guys publish ROM? There isn't even a forum for it and you expect the discussion to go to the right place. Lmao 

I have hunted down the answer for you. We have been asked to direct all inquiries and discussions for RO:M to their facebook pages.

 

RO:M Global/NA - https://www.facebook...agnarokMGlobal/
RO:M SEA - https://www.facebook.com/PlayRagnarokM

 

In the context of this thread mentioning aspects of RO:M monetization and events that you like or dislike is fine, as long as it is in the goal of providing feedback on RO1. But general game discussions (as cinnamon mentioned) are off topic to both the thread and forum.


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Posted 20 March 2019 - 09:42 AM

On the subject of power creep/spending money, I am definitely not afraid to set aside a budget of $30-50 in a month for something I feel like I get my money's worth for. However, I gotta say the costume/OCP boxes being $3/each with a less than good chance of getting something desirable really does feel bad as a user. I know it's a business decision where your decision-makers have found $3 to be a good compromise of price/value. I do find it very likely that you are pricing out a lot of potential money spenders while relying on whales/big spenders to cushion your RPU (revenue per user.) I guess i'm just venting; whales always carry games with RNG-boxes. The amount of zeny in the game these days is ludicrous; if the prices on some of these items weren't so completely outrageous the economy overall would be in a healthier place.

 

@Camp & the other GMs, have you considered a substantial zeny sink to encourage the user base to spend their zeny? When you literally can't trade more than 999,999,999z or hold more than 2.1b zeny and you have items valued over 3b+ it's a rather silly situation. If there is a trillion zeny active in the economy and you NPC-away even 20% of that, you're gonna see a nice bit of deflation.


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