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#51 andxres

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 02:50 AM

I like blackCROSSCY's idea of having the monthly boss event to give us a MvP to beat up with the newest OCP gear.


Remember last xmas c-lab? Some player complaining this idea.
Huh, they need make event which allowing people to earn point for raffle. The raffles reward could be ocp popular gear. The more point you obtain the higher chance you obtain the gear.
there must be 4 difficulties for this event.
1. Easy Mode
Type Boss: Mini Boss
Reward: 1/2 normal mode.
Encourage low level to participate in the game.

2.Normal Mode
Range Level 100-150
Type Boss: low tier to mid tier
Reward : normal
I guess majority player should fall to this categories. Need party to complete.

3.Hard Mode
Range Level 150-175
Type Boss: high tier
Reward: 1.5x+((party member-2)*5%)
End game player who want show their best build ord gear. Still need party to complete together.

4.Nightmare Mode:
Range : 160-175.
Type Boss : high difficulties
Reward: 2x Normal Difficulties
Reward could be increase by adding some difficulties like:
+Banning some item
+prohibiting certain skill
+one player only
+limiting certain consumable.

The hardest and the insanest mode here. Player who want to show they can do this instance alone should fall to this categories.

The enemies of hard and nightmare should have defense mechanism for every clsss meta like reflect magic for warlock, max pain for melee class, pneuma for range class, or full heal for kitting class.
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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:03 PM

I don't even really know what half of these new equips are used for really. We use to have people post optimal builds and kept them up to date for all the classes. I have a Ring of Jupiter and don't even know what its best used for. I can read the description obviously. Its almost more a gambling thing with a side bonus of Bloody Branches. If someone posts the item is good on a class i play i'll keep it. Since I only have one of a lot of the super rare stuff I usually just leave it in storage. 


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:12 PM

Still trying to figure out what Jupiter Ring is for

 

Edit: also Rainbow Muffler


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 08:18 PM

Given the list of boosted skills, the rainbow muffler will be something for performer classes to use their offensive skills more often. It also provides resistance for 75% of a single element at a time dependent on the elemental arrow equipped.
If i was fighting with my performer solo (or in a party using songs) in a place full of fire attacks. I would probably equip the fire arrow and endow water if I was doing something other than support skills . It only makes sense to take advantage of the reductions vs the respective element that way.

Could even have a shadow chaser equip the arrows even if they aren’t equipping a bow, right? Or did that change, I don’t have a shadow chaser haven’t done the job change quest yet but I figured it’d be an idea to throw out there. At least that’s how I would make use of the rainbow muffler.

Jupiter ring adds a nice bit of atk and damage to boss monsters when equipped on one side. Then on the other side if you have the 125 vit for the bonus you get a nice boost in hard def. I would definitely like this for a support class that needs to be tanky or someone who wants to be a tank and roll with this and a kafra blossom?
Also a friend said he’d use that ring as a swap on his Genetic just to use blessing level 5. Sounds like a good swap if that’s what you wanna do and just happen to have it.


It really comes down if it will work for your build and if you can afford to drop 125 of VIT or LUK to place the accessory in the respective slot for which bonuses you are trying to get.

There’s just no black and white when it comes to some of these things. Ya gotta make the best of it however you see it fit

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 08:36 PM

i like to have an instance with stupid mechanic 

(like no pots allowed  :heh: . ahh..imagine the nightmare being a healer xD) 

 

but on the serious side note. we kinda need an instance that can basically made ocp out of the formula.


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 11:03 PM

i like to have an instance with stupid mechanic
(like no pots allowed :heh: . ahh..imagine the nightmare being a healer xD)

but on the serious side note. we kinda need an instance that can basically made ocp out of the formula.


Hp and sp regen no allowed
No pot allowed
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 11:54 AM

Given the list of boosted skills, the rainbow muffler will be something for performer classes to use their offensive skills more often. It also provides resistance for 75% of a single element at a time dependent on the elemental arrow equipped.
If i was fighting with my performer solo (or in a party using songs) in a place full of fire attacks. I would probably equip the fire arrow and endow water if I was doing something other than support skills . It only makes sense to take advantage of the reductions vs the respective element that way.

Could even have a shadow chaser equip the arrows even if they aren’t equipping a bow, right? Or did that change, I don’t have a shadow chaser haven’t done the job change quest yet but I figured it’d be an idea to throw out there. At least that’s how I would make use of the rainbow muffler.

Jupiter ring adds a nice bit of atk and damage to boss monsters when equipped on one side. Then on the other side if you have the 125 vit for the bonus you get a nice boost in hard def. I would definitely like this for a support class that needs to be tanky or someone who wants to be a tank and roll with this and a kafra blossom?
Also a friend said he’d use that ring as a swap on his Genetic just to use blessing level 5. Sounds like a good swap if that’s what you wanna do and just happen to have it.


It really comes down if it will work for your build and if you can afford to drop 125 of VIT or LUK to place the accessory in the respective slot for which bonuses you are trying to get.

There’s just no black and white when it comes to some of these things. Ya gotta make the best of it however you see it fit

 

Rainbow Muffler is good for elemental reductions and that's about it. As for elemental reductions you can easily get plenty from other sources and leave the garment for other stuff. It is also nothing special for Performers. On jRO it must be really good because Metallic Sound is almost spammable there, I've seen Performers as the main killer on Bio5 parties in videos using Metallic Sound. Here it does nothing as our cooldown is 5 seconds.

 

Jupiter Ring is really good.


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 01:54 PM

 At this point what do you guy still have to worry about? lol.

 

Breaking the broken Chaos server 


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 02:22 PM

I havent log in for 3 weeks. I must say after spending $250 on last ocp and didnt get anything pretty much killed the game for me.
On ro mobile I get alot of items in gacha. I can also spend $$ on mvp cards on auction and they have event that keep me going they raised the cap to 105 too. I find myself busy in just grinding albeit auto. It is also on the go. I like that i get zeny in exchange when I sell things in market not like in this ragnarok online it takes looong time to sell even in eden haha. It takes a long time. If you get bored on RO mobile this game is not for you but atleast it is better than ragnarok with no updates and -_-ty drop rate on ocp. This game is also so behind than other ragnarok private servers.


You ask why am I here? Haha forum is saved in my browser. In my mind, the game is struggling to keep up. I was hoping just they just kill the game than milk it so it wont ruin my childhood memories of the game.

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:23 PM

Wait after two years and see how RoM is doing
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:30 PM

Just not apple to apple, iro > 10 years, and rom < 1 year
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:57 PM

I’m willing to say that Global RoM will close before iRO lol

Wanna know the reason why people quit iRO? It’s because of renewal mechanics where everyone gets one shot. Joke on competitive RoM players, it’s already OHKO in PvP and the server is only 2 months old.

Exchange market has its up and down. New players will quit because everything sells less than 1k zeny, thanks to over supply. Only rare loots from Minis and MvPs sell fast and propel already bot MvPs 24/7.

Also, it’s all about RNG. Usually I spend $100 and I get everything from the box. Talking about Saek knight set on RoM, I spent $1,200 and I didn’t get FAW, alone. So yes RNG. And in fact Fantasy machaine has worse rates than OCPs.

 

come back to iro and pop boxes again


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:09 PM

Wait after two years and see how RoM is doing


ROM Eternal love will be replaced by ROM First love. :)
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:14 PM

Wait after two years and see how RoM is doing

 

I'm pretty sure RoM will be just fine after a couple of years or more. I get what you meant on the other thread that acquiring gatcha head gears then "depositing" it in the adventure book would greatly affect a characters performance in battle due to those little + x amount of hp, defense and etc stat bonuses you can get but that doesn't make much difference from iRO. Look at all the cash shop items that was shoved at us, a non $$ player cannot compete against OCP fed players, whales will always be whales no matter what game.

 

The only difference is that RoM is easier to play and is forgiving, I say this because I am currently following a guide that would net me 1-3m per day and since you played RoM, you'd know that by just getting huge amount of zennies via hard work(not really that hard because you can just literally leave your PC on and let your character grind all day), you can buy cards and upgrade your equipment to the fullest without spending real life $$.

 

Now don't get me wrong because I still am hoping for iRO to get back up on it's feet and regain it's former glory. The updates are nice but it has little to no effect bringing back players. We're being fed with OP OCPs to the point that MvPs literally takes a couple of seconds to kill and this cycle has been going on for so long, it's like your using a samurai sword to cut an onion instead of a kitchen knife so why not just merge the servers and let all the samurai sword wielding players face each other instead of them slaughtering onions.


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:31 PM

I'm pretty sure RoM will be just fine after a couple of years or more. I get what you meant on the other thread that acquiring gatcha head gears then "depositing" it in the adventure book would greatly affect a characters performance in battle due to those little + x amount of hp, defense and etc stat bonuses you can get but that doesn't make much difference from iRO. Look at all the cash shop items that was shoved at us, a non $$ player cannot compete against OCP fed players, whales will always be whales no matter what game.

 

The only difference is that RoM is easier to play and is forgiving, I say this because I am currently following a guide that would net me 1-3m per day and since you played RoM, you'd know that by just getting huge amount of zennies via hard work(not really that hard because you can just literally leave your PC on and let your character grind all day), you can buy cards and upgrade your equipment to the fullest without spending real life $$.

 

Now don't get me wrong because I still am hoping for iRO to get back up on it's feet and retain it's former glory. The updates are nice but it has little to no effect bringing back players. We're being fed with OP OCPs to the point that MvPs literally takes a couple of seconds to kill and this cycle has been going on for so long, it's like your using a samurai sword to cut an onion instead of a kitchen knife so why not just merge the servers and let all the samurai sword wielding players face each other instead of them slaughtering onions.

 

The only difference, in my honest opinion, is that iRO is a 17 years old server and RoM is 2 months old. Even though, CN RoM is only 2 years and game seems as broken as iRO, if not, worse.

 

 

RoM and iRO are very very similar. You can also play iRO without spending money but you will see the difference when you compare yourself to whales. You probably dont see the effects of being F2P in RoM yet until you go in PvP or try to compete Boss hunt against P2W.

 

No, say what you want you to say. I love honest opinions. I also dont have hope for iRO because its too old and iRO just shot itself the last bullet when they put Gioia in Xmas. However seeing how people think RoM is bliss just makes me giggle.

 

Meanwhile, I almost dont know what to do in RoM anymore  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:

 

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:32 PM

I'm pretty sure RoM will be just fine after a couple of years or more. I get what you meant on the other thread that acquiring gatcha head gears then "depositing" it in the adventure book would greatly affect a characters performance in battle due to those little + x amount of hp, defense and etc stat bonuses you can get but that doesn't make much difference from iRO. Look at all the cash shop items that was shoved at us, a non $$ player cannot compete against OCP fed players, whales will always be whales no matter what game.

 

The only difference is that RoM is easier to play and is forgiving, I say this because I am currently following a guide that would net me 1-3m per day and since you played RoM, you'd know that by just getting huge amount of zennies via hard work(not really that hard because you can just literally leave your PC on and let your character grind all day), you can buy cards and upgrade your equipment to the fullest without spending real life $$.

 

Now don't get me wrong because I still am hoping for iRO to get back up on it's feet and retain it's former glory. The updates are nice but it has little to no effect bringing back players. We're being fed with OP OCPs to the point that MvPs literally takes a couple of seconds to kill and this cycle has been going on for so long, it's like your using a samurai sword to cut an onion instead of a kitchen knife so why not just merge the servers and let all the samurai sword wielding players face each other instead of them slaughtering onions.

 

I am down for letting Thor peoples come to our server, just start a new character.


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 05:33 PM

ROM Eternal love will be replaced by ROM First love. :)

 

Yeah thanks to you. I tried to not spend too much and just play it casually on RoM, knowing that its a mobile game and there are already so many RO-base mobiles up a head  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:05 PM

ROM is certainly more broken than IRO. You can do million damage on every job. That a lot of damage
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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:07 PM

It's funny cause there are people out there telling me ROM is better than iRO but ROM is even more p2w than iRO. But the reason these people quit iRO is because of OCP, wtf?  :heh:

 

EDIT: In reality the real reason why people play ROM instead of iRO is because it requires less work when everything is done for you. 


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:15 PM

The only difference, in my honest opinion, is that iRO is a 17 years old server and RoM is 2 months old. Even though, CN RoM is only 2 years and game seems as broken as iRO, if not, worse.

 

 

RoM and iRO are very very similar. You can also play iRO without spending money but you will see the difference when you compare yourself to whales. You probably dont see the effects of being F2P in RoM yet until you go in PvP or try to compete Boss hunt against P2W.

 

No, say what you want you to say. I love honest opinions. I also dont have hope for iRO because its too old and iRO just shot itself the last bullet when they put Gioia in Xmas. However seeing how people think RoM is bliss just makes me giggle.

 

Meanwhile, I almost dont know what to do in RoM anymore  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:

 

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Well that on the vid is something I kind of expect in the future(wth is that a gunslinger) so I'm okay with it since I've encountered those kinds of players in iRO so it's nothing new when it comes to PvM.

 

I agree that RoM and iRO can be played with out spending $$ but if you do that in iRO, you'll end up going insane because it'll be more like a chore instead of it being a fun game. I couldn't even imagine how people gather materials in iRO legally, from EDP mats, potion brewing etc. while in RoM you can just grind and AFK. 

 

I wouldn't say RoM is bliss, more like entertaining and not hardcore face keyboard banging gaming but you still get decent RO experience.

 

I am down for letting Thor peoples come to our server, just start a new character.

 

Problem is the grind, I don't think anyone would be willing to sacrifice hundreds of hours again just to be in competition ready.

 

I don't know why nobody or even the GMs are considering this option which I believe was implemented before https://secure.warpp..._agreement.html. I hope people will take their time and read the intro in that link, if I understood it correctly it looks like they allowed character server transfer option for players before, if they can just add a disclaimer about time zone difference and its effects I think it's a wise option considering the current state of iRO.

 

 

ROM Eternal love will be replaced by ROM First love. :)

 

Is that the one released by Tenecent(?) do you now if they have Rogue class? cuz -_- that if they don't have Rogues.


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:18 PM

Just merge the servers already, WoE is so boring right now. 


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:23 PM

Is that the one released by Tenecent(?) do you now if they have Rogue class? cuz -_- that if they don't have Rogues.

Yes Tencent developed it. Currently it's on CBT in China.
Unfortunately I don't pay attention to it so much (I'm not good on Chinese).

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:28 PM

Problem is the grind, I don't think anyone would be willing to sacrifice hundreds of hours again just to be in competition ready.

 

I don't know why nobody or even the GMs are considering this option which I believe was implemented before https://secure.warpp..._agreement.html. I hope people will take their time and read the intro in that link, if I understood it correctly it looks like they allowed character server transfer option for players before, if they can just add a disclaimer about time zone difference and its effects I think it's a wise option considering the current state of iRO.

 

The link doesn't work for me personally.

 

If people want their character transferred then that is fine, but there should be nothing coming with them.


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:57 PM

It's funny cause there are people out there telling me ROM is better than iRO but ROM is even more p2w than iRO. But the reason these people quit iRO is because of OCP, wtf?  :heh:

 

EDIT: In reality the real reason why people play ROM instead of iRO is because it requires less work when everything is done for you. 

 

All retards who fall into the one of these 3 following categories,

 

1. Rage quit PC RO when Renewal hit in 2012, or

2. Rage quit from OCPs, or

3. Rage quit from OHKO WoE. 

Then all of these apply to RoM. I mean, I even got asked to go fight in PvP when I told a group of RoM pros that, "Relax! its a mobile game that wont last over 3-4 years"  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:


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Posted 18 March 2019 - 07:07 PM

All retards who fall into the one of these 3 following categories,

 

1. Rage quit PC RO when Renewal hit in 2012, or

2. Rage quit from OCPs, or

3. Rage quit from OHKO WoE. 

Then all of these apply to RoM. I mean, I even got asked to go fight in PvP when I told a group of RoM pros that, "Relax! its a mobile game that wont last over 3-4 years"  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:

 

#1 should be "Rage quit from lack of updates".


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