you put too much faith on the coding capabilities of a 2 decades old half ruined on launch mmo with a complete spaguetti code whose development team has been completely changed multiple times over
"Faith" is not the problem. I would like to believe I am well aware of the "coding capabilities" more so than most, definitely more so than your average player. I do not feel the need to drop my resume here though. Statements such as "half ruined on launch mmo with a complete spaguetti code" does not help the situation. Blind statements like this is actually a key part of the problem. You are entitled to your opinion, but that is simply all it is and nothing more.
My case and point will remain it is fully doable to put in game controls and enforce them accordingly.
As for the debate on KS and AFK autocast, warp portal has chosen to not participate. Beyond that it becomes a personal ethical/moral decision, and everyone will have a different view. So why bother with such a debate.
Personally I'd rather warp portal focus on making triple attack crit function so a ASPD crit sura could be a viable thing.... But even that has weighted opinions/risks/unknowns. Such as what is to stop a zerking EDP'd GX from running with trip hit crit with Battle Surcoat... Nothing as it is not class restricted, and if they were to make it restricted, players would chime in their opinions one way or another, ultimately what would be a amazing update for SURA would be a overpowering update to many other classes leaving sura still behind on this aspect... It's a give and take scenario with restrictions and sides where the FEW tend to go blind on the MASSES it's affecting.
Most everyone participating in these debates are veteran players in one manner or another. Yet the unsaid or unaddressed portion is the bureaucracy aspect.
For those who can't seem to grasp this here's a simple way to think about it.
GRAVITY = OWNER
WARPPORTAL = CONTRACT HOLDER
Be aware just because it is possible, warp portal may very well be restricted due to a large number of things. Like it or not, but just be aware of this. It is also why IRO will never die as it is GRAVITY's baby, NOT warp portals. It's one of the many reasons IRO survived for "2 decades" and will continue to do so.
The other side of the coin is the RISK factor. I was genuinely excited for the implementing of the gear swapping feature and rather disappointed when finding it would not be permitted to pull the items onto the player straight from kafra storage. Kindly within irowiki discord channel , where many knowledgeable people dwell, it was explained as it will never be done due to the potential vulnerability it may cause. I firmly believe such vulnerabilities could be addressed and mitigated, but it is a choice none the less. Again, it is just simply what it is.
But back to the debate portion and it being a Ethical/Moral situation. The rules are clear, warp portals stance is clear. Why is this even a debate?
One's ethical/moral choice on the manner is largely opinion based and there will never be a solid agreement among players with very different views.
Here's another comparable example..... Food for thought if nothing else....Maybe it will help bring it into perspective?
Because my computers are CAD machines I am FULLY capable of loading a countless number of clients. My network can handle it, my pc's can handle it, and I have machines to spare. I could let on wards to hundreds of characters run autocasting AFK and just forget about them for weeks on end. Oh rite, the game has a built in restriction of how many clients are allowed to connect from one network domain. I AM FULLY capable of circumventing this restriction via proxy or spoofing. Would it change your opinion on AFK autocasting if I loaded in 50~200 charaters onto a single map , how about ~30 AOE homunculus's on low TI covering the entire map preventing anyone from being able to level? Yes it would. And yes, I really could do such a feat. Does this kill your motivation? If it doesn't, it definitely should.
(My apologies on double posting. Seems I cannot edit the post with the phone)
It’s a bit ridiculous to think one player would load in 150 auto casters or afk levelers one way or another rite?
How about instead... what if 10 end game players decided to load 15 each? Or 15 players 10? Or 30 players load 5? Or 75 players load 2? Or 150 players load 1? Ahhh shoot all are the same end result.....
If seeing this breakdown doesn’t bring it full circle and into perspective nothing will....
I am also known for loading max allowed clients and making formations with homunculus's and mercenaries simply for fun. Because I duo with my wife as much as I can, I had at one point strong desire to load a few clients above the set in place restriction so my wife could duo the same play style together. I even have evidence that I would be permitted to play in such a manner, permission slip essentially. But I CHOOSE NOT TO. It is my ethical choice. Also the Terms of Service is quite clear, 3rd party programs are not permitted. A proxy IS a 3rd party program. This is not a debatable matter, it is FACT. Just as MACRO's are 3rd party programs, it is FACT. Bots are 3rd party programs, FACT. These are not debatable things, yet the line in the sand is somehow often blurry.
Even now as I type this, I am aware that the merger has occurred and server is back up. I am motivated to load in a formation and find out where the restart players are mostly going to pop into and setup to welcome them to the server. Yet I will not do so as it may in fact turn more players away rather than they believe it to be a nice welcoming.
I am often mistaken as a bot or something against the Terms of Service, but no, I fallow the rules to the letter. I value my experience on IRO and will not jeopardize it ever. Even on things grey area things such as proxies I simply will not do.
Also, I would hate for the players freshly coming onto IRO chaos from restart to think my intended welcoming to be something negative. Such as they could perceive this showing of max client homunculus's and mercenaries as potentially a false sign that botting is running rampant and just say to heck with the game. I've spent countless hours explaining to random players that I'm not a bot, and often that is how I socialize and meet others.
Just because you can, does not mean you should. If one hasn't learned that lesson, don't worry, everyone does eventually. Usually those lessons are hard learned.
Another lesson to learn that is running rampant is we all interact with everything a bit differently and all of our opinions are different. That's why they are called personal choices and opinions after all.
Somewhere along the line though it seems people forget personal choices have consequences that effect others. Its all too easy to be blind with how something affects one self and maintain ignorance on how it effects someone else.
Edited by Benderama, 11 July 2019 - 11:57 AM.