First of..the color coordinating, very irritating to the eyes--worse to the ocd because its not in order. Please for the good of all, dont do it again.
Secondly..No respectable game developer would put a skill into a game if they thought it would be used to harass and drive down the overall feel of the game play. The skill was intended as a survivability thing--To remove a few buffs in this game to help you defeat someone/something. That being said, mages are meant to be offensive, not supportive(Although, I do know a few people who play respectable hybrids). Debuff is meant for a mage to remove a buff and take control of the situation. Not spawn repeatedly to generally piss a player off by removing all of the buffs. Get off your 'I need to argue with everyone' highhorse and open your eyes. People are not playing constantly anymore.
Yes, Leonis is suffering a terrible bout of inflation--That I hope the GMs will address soon as I've been crying about it for some months now. This doesn't effect war in the same way. This prevents/slows down new competitors from entering the battle field..But doesn't stop war in their tracks. If you have, indeed, played Leonis for a few years you know that it has drastically gone down hill over the years. I"m told it was even better before I started--I believe it given the decline..But What I do know, and this isn't my opinion but an observation, is that it has gone down hill faster since players turned to being full-time debuffers. There were no full-time debuffers when I first started, this was something that started with a few people..and then a few others made mages to combat the other sides mages..Kind of thing. Its out of hand. Its ruining game play.
When you see more wars that end up with both sides bringing debuffers for the other side then actual warring, its an issue. You obviously do not war, or you would understand the general players fustrations. You can't possibly sit there spinning your screen looking out for all the debuff mages. New ones come in on a normal basis--Sometimes you don't even see the debuff until it happens..then you look around the training grounds at the ten different idle mages(as you were busy warring) to try to figure out which one debuffed you? And you're missing the point--Its not one side who is consistantly giving up..Both sides will once they are only dealing with a mage..
And no, I don't have a team of highly-trained professional mage killers in my clan who dedicate their time to just killing mages over and over again. But I'll take your suggestion into consideration as I drag and drop it into my recycle bin. Really? I don't think any clan is going to have a group of people sit there and watch for mages while others try to war. When things turn to a debuff war, I would say theres probably a minimum of 2-4 mages involved... And really, you can effectively get someones buffs in a few minutes with two mages..You can't possibly kill them both at once--Oh yeah..You have a party of highly trained Mage killers who spend their entire time just scouting for mages. Do you hire out?
Like I said..Open your eyes--Note that there isn't anyone really agreeing with you and that far more are against you. So if majority of the game thinks its ruining the game for them then helping them..and makes them want to war less--their opinions must be invalid? What logic is that.
It seems you like telling people what to do and what not to do. I'm sorry for the coloring of my response? It seems in game and on forums you aren't happy with the things that go on.
You keep saying that debuff is hindering the game as a whole.... but you have no proof of this at all. People buy IM more than ever(why does IM matter in this debate?...hmmm lets see, who would pay money for a game when there is a skill hindering the existence of its popularity, gameplay, and community?), people still build clans all the time, keep gearing new characters.... the game is far from dieing, and even more so far from dieing because of this skill that seems to be so terrible to you.
You are calling the skill a survivability thing.... where AGAIN are you getting these descriptions? How do you know exactly what it was and was not intended for? Debuff could be meant for to remove a debuff and take control and win.... or could mean to run around and debuff everyone in sight... until you give me a definition of the debuff skills purpose PROVIDED by the people who put it in the game.... your opinions on what its "supposed" to be for, will remain invalid to me I'm sorry. If debuffing is really "harassment", then submit a ticket about it with FULL detail and please let me know how they respond to it. Really Nia? "get off your high horse and i need to argue with everyone", 1. Why is that even necessary to say? So I'm supposed to just shut up and not say my opinions and let you feel free to say yours and not debate it because I don't agree? You are basically using a dictatorship and saying "I'll say whats right, and you can just stop right there MR" lol. Also, not to point fingers but lets' be honest, 3/4's of your posts are negative feed arguing... however appreciated because at least you are giving your opinion on something.
The GM's have said it many times, the economy is a player controlled market and they are not going to infringe on that other than making things sellable/not sellable, anything past that they don't control. I will agree that is has gone downhill, but are you really pinpointing that it went downhill because of this one skill? A bit laughable I must say. I can give different reasons I believe things have gone downhill, but I'm not here to give negativity rather than suggestions to make it better. In the end, everything has dull moments, even if that moment seems to last for a long time. I personally think with STEAM introduced the population is slowly, but still getting better... and I think with all the new updates coming and everything people will not only come back to play but we will get more players than ever....I have high hopes.
I like how you keep telling me what I do and don't do as if it provides any benefit to the conversation, or maybe it makes you feel as if you "one up'd me"??? Anyways I do war, and a lot.... and debuffers are a bit laughable to bit over being bothersome. They can be annoying at times aswell, but no matter what they can and always are easy to overcome. Debuff mages are very weak. Fast? Sure. Annoying, obviously. All it takes is 3-4 friends to take them down as I've stated before, and so if they come back you just keep taking them down.... how hard of a concept is that?
I didn't say sit there and watch for mages lol. I said if a war is going on, or if you are 1v1 someone, and a mage is ruining the time.... call in your clannies and have them help you wipe out the debuffers. If I have at least 6 of my friends/clannies on, we can easily take down 3debuff mages... its truly not that hard....at all.
Should I give up on my opinion and jump in the crowd just because my opinion isn't the most popular? I'll join a cult too and drink the kool-aid cause its what everyone is doing lol. So you also believe that just because it isn't the popular ideal, it should just be shunned and stomped upon? Like I've said many times, just because a good population of people don't like it, doesn't make it invaluable. Obviously there is a community of debuff mages who ENJOY it, so it should stay in my opinion. It seems your politics/ideals of how this game should run would in my opinion be the ultimate ruin of Rose. If you've noticed Rose has always catered to everyone in some way, which is why there is always a debate within everything in this game because there is always the crowd that LOVES the new implementation and then always the other half that HATE it.
This however will be my last response to you Nia because as I keep reading your responses to reply in a positive manner, you seem to sarcastically say negative and rude things for absolutely no reason as if it makes your opinions any more beneficial or superior. So take this response and just "drag and drop" it into your recycle bin as well, if you want to continue this debate in a more adult manner I would love to talk about it more... please PM me. Otherwise I'll take the responses as you trolling me and simply trying to make me look stupid.....or you can take this as a win? Whatever you suits your needs, but feel free to PM me if you would like to further debate.
Edited by VolunteerMod03, 15 April 2013 - 06:18 AM.