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#101 Omnipheles

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 07:32 PM

Technically it should. Though is there really anyone who has been trying to use fire on a fire element?

Frankly, this is a part I hope is wrong. TG would really be a nice card and if it can actually heal fire MVPs, that would kind of make it bad as a general weapon card.

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#102 frohzn

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 09:10 PM

You will not heal the monster
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Posted 24 November 2014 - 09:26 PM

dont you just miss? O_o


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 10:33 PM

get a blast clip and try it u will see u will miss the monster ^^


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 12:21 AM

Wouldn't a LUK glove be good for the budget build? Pretty easy to make till you get better stuff. :o

 

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Oh, and you can slot it too. Tho don't get me started on that, 500 splendide coins for only one slotted so far, lmao. I curse you RNG gods, ya hear me? I CURSE YOU!


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#106 Omnipheles

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:03 AM

Aspd 193 is harder to reach with a budget build than 100 crit.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:11 AM

Omnipheles if u use TG card u will miss fire monster with MB :p_hi: 


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:18 AM

Yeah I read that. Guess they changed it at some point. I swear using an element the monster had a negative resist to used to heal the monster. 


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:19 AM

u can try it fire conv and try to kill a Horong is lvl 4 fire


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:23 AM

U will only miss the Magnum Break, and it gives +20% fire property atq bonus wich bypass def to your atqs, if the monster has fire resistance, only this 20% will be reduced. In the last case MB will only not increase your damage after being cast.


And yeah, negative resistances make u heal the monsters


Like being hit by shadow skills while wearing evil druid

 


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:25 AM

Yeah I know how Magnum Break acts. The whole problem is that people disagree on the healing thing. Well I'll make sure myself, I got an observer xD.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:44 AM

Get a marine sphere and test with some fire 4 monster, it should work

 


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:53 AM

Just tested with Mild Wind and Marine Sphere. Good thing, it seems negative resist doesn't seem to heal the monster like it used to. Guess I'll go for a TG card after all.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:33 AM

i sold u this ;D how we both buying one muhaa qq


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:36 AM

Good thing, it seems negative resist doesn't seem to heal the monster like it used to.

 

Pretty sure it has never done that, atleast on official servers. The info you found may have been from private servers.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:44 AM

btw is a Krieg [3] with sharp not better than a Mg with 4 cards?


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:49 AM

No, I know it used to, at least years ago.

 

As for Krieg, it would be better if you're lacking crit to 100% hit what you're fighting.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:50 AM

Hmm kk btw 3 ak + aunoe is i think abit better than 4 ak or not?


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:52 AM

No, I know it used to, at least years ago.

 

As for Krieg, it would be better if you're lacking crit to 100% hit what you're fighting.

 

 

yeah but u lose with Mg 30+ crit so u uahve no more 100 crit or?


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:52 AM

The ratio changes depending on your crit damage before the AK cards. It could be, I'm still using a very old AK carded MG lol.

 

I use abrasives when not using my sharp Ice Pick to get back the crit I lose and still 100% hit everything.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:54 AM

Hmm oki


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 05:34 AM

It's needed to have a balance with %crit dmg and %dmg to have a good dps


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 05:59 AM

Personally my crit damage is already high without my weapon cards, so last time I calculated it, AK x4 was better, but I'll have to re-calc with my current and desired setup.
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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:40 AM

Would 4xAK MG still beat out +10 or higher scalpel 3x AK?

 

I know wATK isn't big for off-hand, but that should be a real high amount of eATK gained


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 07:06 AM

still not


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