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#26 ilovemilk

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:00 PM

Shush. You're scarring the GM from implementing this update. Get ready to receive tons of hate mails if this update doesn't go through.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:00 PM

Soo basically renewal is changing from DB & AS -_-storm into a DB & AS -_-storm with higher barriers to entry.

Renewal sounds fun.


You shouldn't have to choose whether you want to survive DB, and die to AS, or suvive AS and die to DB though, since the same gear will reduce both.
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#28 Zoltor

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:06 PM

Unfrozen fire -> take 175% damage from Water DB

 

 

 

 

I was gonna post something else, but it seems I did over look a option, instead use Unfrozen Water(what a dumb concept lmao, but hey it works), and use your secondary equips for fire resist+the standard Demihuman resist gear.

 

It's considered a Ranged attack, so would that also make the DBs, physical attack based? If so, wouldn't Asprika effect it as well? Just wondering.


Edited by Zoltor, 05 December 2014 - 12:11 PM.

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#29 Havenn

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:12 PM

Holy armor anyone?

 

 

AS with cursed water x.x


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:14 PM

Will DB get more damage with bellum/glorious equips? Or only demi human reductions?


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:15 PM

Logically, why on earth would a shield designed to fend off humanoids protect you from getting your ass torched by a dragon?

 

RKs are generally the deciding factor of winning WoE and the highest DPS in WoE. SC disables one persons skills, while RK disables your guilds life

 

Logically why would all the gear that reduces fire damage not reduce fire breath? lul


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:16 PM

because dragons, viri, dragons.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:23 PM

because dragons, viri, dragons.

 

who plays this game for dragons?   heck i think of RO as a mini dating game, not dragons.


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#34 ChakriGuard

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:26 PM

Lmao trolling aside, Im happy that they fixed DB. It has been fun to see a RK spams only one skill throughout WoE lololol
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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:29 PM

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Thats CRS on Cecil Demon with Black Claw(2.8m). 

 

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Thats CI with 269k per hit. You need Hero's graveyard's hat to do these tho.


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#36 meli

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:30 PM

Can't see gears to tell if that's normal damage or OP equips.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:33 PM

what about GR card?


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:34 PM

What about chain lightning spamming people defaulting water armors?


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 12:34 PM

Can't see gears to tell if that's normal damage or OP equips.

 

Going to keep the goods to myself huehuehue but Ripper gets affected by EA. also we're missing penetration accessories. this is done by +14 guilotine Katar i think.  +12 KVM Jama


Edited by CharAznable, 05 December 2014 - 12:46 PM.

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#40 Zoltor

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:17 PM

OMFG lol, how can the developers pretend GXs aren't brokenly OPed.

 

I want to know what equips It's wearing, but truthfully, does it even matter? They shouldn't be allowed to do that kind of damage period.

 

The only job allowed to do such damage, is Sura, and look at the penalty they get for doing such, drains all SP, which makes them pretty useless for 5 seconds afterwards, until they are allowed to spam blues, not to mention it takes spirit spheres/fury or whatnot, before the sura can even cast the GFist.

 

 

Here's comes a GX with no downsides, god at everything, doing crazy damage like It's nothing.


Edited by Zoltor, 05 December 2014 - 01:26 PM.

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:38 PM

Yea you know, while they're wearing their shields and everything. Think > Research > Speak in that order


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:47 PM

GX cant do that much damages when they are using a shield lol


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#43 Zoltor

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:50 PM

GX cant do that much damages when they are using a shield lol

 

Lmao and that matters why? What do you need a shield for when you pretty much instant kill everything anyway.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:57 PM

Lmao and that matters why? What do you need a shield for when you pretty much instant kill everything anyway.


Dark claw: lasts 5 seconds, 60 second cooldown. On the single target you just used it on, you do 2.5x physical damage to it.

You can insta kill one thing, once a minute. Hardly OP.
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#45 Tkwan

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:58 PM

Warlock gets new skill that boosts up x3 damage on some of their skill. Base Level doesn't really matter for them 

 

The warlock boost is to ghost skills. The ghost skills sucked from the start. At best, this will just bring them up to par with other skills, but it will not make them super strong.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:59 PM

Lmao and that matters why? What do you need a shield for when you pretty much instant kill everything anyway.

 

Aham ... the AoE is only 5x5, not the 18x18. The gx will most likely die to a random AoE or a GoH level 10, unless the gx is a pro to save himself or see it coming and prevent it. You're also more than welcome to  play a gx when level 175/60 comes out :rice:


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:59 PM

I love how ppl argue over RK / sura / gx holy trinity while other classes are pushed further into uselesness
ELEMENTAL SHIELD ANYONE? Yeah, sacrifice summon and throw safety wall + pneuma. SO STRONK
Or Intense Telekinesis?
Or Emergency Escape?
I demand new kind of woe: without rk, sura and gx.


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#48 Zoltor

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:01 PM

Dark claw: lasts 5 seconds, 60 second cooldown. On the single target you just used it on, you do 2.5x physical damage to it.

You can insta kill one thing, once a minute. Hardly OP.

 

It's OP when you're doing slightly under 1.9m damage.

 

There is nothing you could ever say, that would defend a GX's right to be doing that kind of damage.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:02 PM

Pseudo high-level content yaaaaaaaaaay


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:04 PM

My goal was not to focus on Sura being OP or whatever.  The concern is that certain formulas need looked at to compliment the 175/60 update.  Offensive classes will be more offensive, support skills and classes will fall too far behind.  
 
I'm also curious why Sura has such a unique skill formula where most of the damage is unreducible in WoE, yet DB got nerfed.
 
It's kind of hard for a playerbase to enjoy a class where you see other classes outperform you in every single way....

 

because gravity love suras .____.

 

Because gravity want to see a MMA on pvp/woe ,lol


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