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#51 ForteGS

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 07:03 AM

with 4 thief classes u can make a weapon per day already, using steal on every single mob i get a minimum of 50 shards on each of mine gxes. 

Also i got my thanos katar already, +7 it, testing on eggs, it deals better dmg than my +9 Blood tears[2xHF] FS11, as well as my +12 GBR lol. Will be making 2 or 3 more of this katar, 1 to put huntere fly, 1 for general dmg card, 1 for AK, and 1 for aunoe.

 

Actually with VIP+Normal gum i can get 50~57 pieces per run with genetic, i think with GX/SC can get maybe 70~75 pieces per run ( i need test that)


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 07:09 AM

i already tested Evil Slayer Staff to do ME damage.

 

 

These are the weapons i used:

+7 Dvine Cross Spell 4/ int 4

+7 Thanos Staff [1]

+7 Evil Slayer Staff [0] spell 3 (MATK+15, var cast -3%)/ fighting spirit 1/ def 1

 

These are gears i used to do all testing:

+7 Shrine Maiden Hat [1]

+9 Deviant FAW Spell 18

+6 Temp int boots Spell 5/lucky day

Ninja Scroll

+4 Magical Shadow Set

 

Stats: 120+14 int, 60+11 dex, 77+9 luk

 

Variation for accesories:

Spiritual Ring + Scaraba Clip

Double scaraba RWC pendant spell 2/2

 

Testing done on Dark Priests, 10 samples each and the data presented in lowest to highest damage range. here are the results:

 

- Thanatos Staff

no accs: 36k ~ 41k

ring + clip:  39k ~ 45k

double RWC: 46k ~ 50k

 

- Evil Slayer

no accs: 36k ~ 42k

ring + clip: 39k ~ 45k

double RWC: 42k ~ 48k

 

- Divine Cross

no accs: 46k ~ 52k

ring + clip: 55k ~ 60k

double RWC: 46k ~ 54k

 

even tho all weapons are +7, but they have different enchant. but we can conclude that divine cross still the best for ME, and thanatos and evil slayer do about similar damage.


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 07:15 AM

1.8K Geffen coins

 

 

2.- Depend, example: RKs is a "must be" for me. RKs have more than 35k hp, it's obvious

5.- Obviously no lol Cost of colu heal 3: 240 sp Cost of heal 10: 40 sp, cost of high heal 190 sp. With RL+9 Colu heal 3: 348 sp: heal 10: 130 sp, cost of high heal 316 sp. 2 heal 10 in 1 member needs less sp and heals more than colu heal, even with the party bonus.

7.- well that maybe yes, but for me i dont like leave him/her with any damage, so heal until they full HP. That's another reason why you burn more sp, the only reason for to heal someone at 100% is If that player can die in almost 1 hit

9.- Ermmm, what is the point you waste 30% SP, to recovery 15%? Using the ancilla when sp is 0% adds 15%, casting ancilla skill when you're at 100% sp takes 30%, leaving 70% sp remaining, It's about WHEN you use them. If the party is killing easily (i.e lack of mobs) and you have the sp, there's no problem recovering the ancilla that you used in an emergency,

10.- Ok, i can say so many bad things but well, for lv 99 or less yeah work, for partys on 135+, even in Gramps quest i cant believe on "sit". This and the other reasons are why you can't use a recovery light +9 with Arc Angeling carded headgear, but I can

 


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 07:48 AM

- Thanatos Staff
no accs: 36k ~ 41k
ring + clip: 39k ~ 45k
double RWC: 46k ~ 50k

- Evil Slayer
no accs: 36k ~ 42k
ring + clip: 39k ~ 45k
double RWC: 42k ~ 48k

- Divine Cross
no accs: 46k ~ 52k
ring + clip: 55k ~ 60k
double RWC: 46k ~ 54k


thanks for that. saves me having to get an evil slayer
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Posted 14 March 2015 - 08:02 AM

thanatos staff saves you from using the ring+clip combo, using 2 RWCs for better cast, or any other acc of your choice. BUT it wont give u the reduction that the divine cross combo gives, stil, divine cross ftw

 


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 08:03 AM

thanatos staff saves you from using the ring+clip combo, using 2 RWCs for better cast, or any other acc of your choice. BUT it wont give u the reduction that the divine cross combo gives, stil, divine cross ftw

 

yeah, and thanatos offer heal boost also. i prefer thanatos for versatility, divine cross for pure damage and evil slayer to put to vend.


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 10:16 AM

I made a little Review about the Thanatos Katar, here it is:

http://forums.warppo...atar/?p=2079999


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 10:44 AM

is Thanatos Staff enchant able?


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 10:59 AM

is Thanatos Staff enchant able?

 

Thanatos weapons cant be enchant, but Evil weapons can, well those weapon are like Faceworm instance dropped with enchants already.


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 11:00 AM

Thanatos weapons cant be enchant, but Evil weapons can, well those weapon are like Faceworm instance dropped with enchants already.

 

Oh i see, thanks a lot for the info


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 02:18 AM

do the evil slayer weaps have element?


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 04:52 AM

me and my guild got staff and katar on first run. i think they are neutral, dunno if you can get elementals from the treasure chest there.
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 07:51 AM

i tested ME on dark priests:

 

+12 divine cross spell 3/4, spiritual ring, clip set: 52k-71k

+7 thanatos staff, 2x RWC spell 3/3 (one w/scaraba card): 38k-50k

+9 empowered mace of judgment spell 2/2 (my default 1h weapon): 41k-51k

 

neither beats divine cross, and thanatos staff will need upgrading to be better than my current 1h weapon

 

the +7 Thanatos staff would dish out more damage if you used the spiritual ring/clip instead of 2xRWC spell 3/3 because you only need the clip/rosary and ring for the 30% damage boost to ME.  Not to mention the Divine cross is at +12 as opposed to the +7 Thanatos staff.

 

Do that and the damage for that staff alone at +7 easilly goes from 38k-50k to 49k-65k at only +7, imagine at +12? it could not only rival it, but potentially surpass it in damage, as well as help with mobbing due to it's potential to restore hp/sp which helps you sustain yourself in the long run, as well as allowing for a shield to further boost your defense.  I'm with fuyukikun on this one.  


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 08:22 AM

the +7 Thanatos staff would dish out more damage if you used the spiritual ring/clip instead of 2xRWC spell 3/3 because you only need the clip/rosary and ring for the 30% damage boost to ME.  Not to mention the Divine cross is at +12 as opposed to the +7 Thanatos staff.

 

Do that and the damage for that staff alone at +7 easilly goes from 38k-50k to 49k-65k at only +7, imagine at +12? it could not only rival it, but potentially surpass it in damage, as well as help with mobbing due to it's potential to restore hp/sp which helps you sustain yourself in the long run, as well as allowing for a shield to further boost your defense.  I'm with fuyukikun on this one.  

 

check out his tests with the thanatos staff. 2x RWC does more dmg than spiritual ring/clip


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 08:41 AM

check out his tests with the thanatos staff. 2x RWC does more dmg than spiritual ring/clip

 

but somehow it might be changed if the thanos upgraded to +12. since ring+clip offer percentage damage, so the higher the matk, the bonus damage from percentage will be higher. while the double RWC spell only offer flat MATK.

crap, enriched hammer was there before the update come so i cant +9 this thing. screw community.


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 08:43 AM

lol yeah. we'll just have to wait again


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 09:01 AM

 

crap, enriched hammer was there before the update come so i cant +9 this thing. screw community.

 my friend +9ed his hammer with 4HD oris '------------'


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 09:24 PM

Hmm anyone tried The Thana Bow?

 


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Posted 16 March 2015 - 02:40 PM

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Shouldn't be slotted? Or it has a random chance to give the slotted version?
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 03:18 PM

hidden slot?
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 04:53 PM

hidden slot?


If you mean Hidden slot enchant, none of these brothers can slot that shield (Seiyablem/Leablem) and according the description in the first post, It should be slotted...
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:09 PM

try double clicking a shield card, if there is an option to put the card on gray shield means the shield has slot, but hidden. just like faceworm queen leg, shiba inu hat, they have slot, but the GM forgot to put [1] on their name.


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Posted 16 March 2015 - 06:39 PM

try double clicking a shield card, if there is an option to put the card on gray shield means the shield has slot, but hidden. just like faceworm queen leg, shiba inu hat, they have slot, but the GM forgot to put [1] on their name.


Oh yep, I didn't know that, It does have a slot, but you just can't see It
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:35 AM

Tried +9 Thanatos Hammer vs +9 Carga mace, both hunter fly carded.

Lvl 125 Sura, average 36k hp, wearing fs 2/2 and 2/3 rwc rings, deviant hp, glorious suits, +9 superior variants, +9 vanaguard. 1%hp robo eyes and +15 hard+champion shadow set.

Str+20, Hp increase and fire converter.

Targeted ancient mummy for Flash Combo as it takes more damage.

+9 Carga : Around 43,3k damage
+9 Thanatos Hammer: Around 49k damage

Its a pretty good increase, and the extra sp leech comes handy for leveling, loved it *-*


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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:03 AM

great, means thanatos weaps are good for leveling. i still dont find the purpose of the bow tho, most rangers will use elven or bxb and performers will still prefer elven for rainstorm.
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