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[Necrohealiac]

wouldn't it be easier to just have an npc give you pre-enchanted faws? do people actually want to test with a FAW that had 1x of EA/Fatal/FS enchants on them?

[KriticalAssassin]

wouldn't it be easier to just have an npc give you pre-enchanted faws? do people actually want to test with a FAW that had 1x of EA/Fatal/FS enchants on them?

Don't think you could put pre-enchanted stuff into an npc, unless you mean having an npc just always give it max enchant, but people may want special dex or random variations of enchants for certain testing, would be so many combinations.

[WolfTri]

Bug: Expert Enchanter Byrnes doesn't want to enchant my Hero Ring.

 

He asks to equip it, when the only things I've equipped are two Hero Rings. Tried wearing only one, that didn't work either.

Note that I'm using the NPC sold Hero Ring. Maybe it's a different item code.

Edited by WolfTri, 05 August 2015 - 06:59 AM.

[Hissis]

Bug: Expert Enchanter Byrnes doesn't want to enchant my Hero Ring.

 

He asks to equip it, when the only things I've equipped are two Hero Rings. Tried wearing only one, that didn't work either.

Note that I'm using the NPC sold Hero Ring. Maybe it's a different item code.

 

i guess u need some stuffs to enchant
 

[WolfTri]

i guess u need some stuffs to enchant
 

In that case the text is wrong, because he clearly says "Equip your Hero Ring, I can't enchant anything else."
He also doesn't say anything about needing items to enchant, only needs 3 Hero Tokens to reset.​

 

Also when is sak gonna be up again

Edited by WolfTri, 05 August 2015 - 06:08 PM.

[Hissis]

In that case the text is wrong, because he clearly says "Equip your Hero Ring, I can't enchant anything else."
He also doesn't say anything about needing items to enchant, only needs 3 Hero Tokens to reset.​

 

Also when is sak gonna be up again

 

hm,so i dont know D:

 

btw,how to get hero tokens .-.?
 

[WolfTri]

Not sure, I barely started testing when it was maint time and server went down. They need to be at least slightly responsible towards the test server if they expect to get any testing done, and receive any bug reports. Really kills the mood when it keeps going AWOL, particularly after an entire server wipe and with a lack of items/NPCs.

[Scrapie]

Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, but is the new weapon list of malangdo enchants implemented in this patch? 

The weapons that were added to the enchantment list are the following:
Noble Cross, Murasama [2] (ID-21003),Blue Naght Seiger Twin Blade[3], Red Naght Seiger Twin Blade[3], Thorn Staff of Darkness[1]

 

I can't get on to try it out since Sakray is currently down, as well as I don't know if we're able to purchase kafra items for free for Silvervines to test it out. 

 

 

Edited by Scrapie, 05 August 2015 - 07:36 PM.

[WolfTri]

Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, but is the new weapon list of malangdo enchants implemented in this patch? 

The weapons that were added to the enchantment list are the following:
Noble Cross, Murasama [2] (ID-21003),Blue Naght Seiger Twin Blade[3], Red Naght Seiger Twin Blade[3], Thorn Staff of Darkness[1]

 

I can't get on to try it out since Sakray is currently down, as well as I don't know if we're able to purchase kafra items for free for Silvervines to test it out. 

No listing of the said change, and there's no way to purchase Silvervine on Sakray. Safe to say it isn't implemented in this update.

[bbdrew]

Any news on when sakray will be up?

[Nirvanna21]

So can someone list what is available and what isn't, I wanna try make a refined list of stuff that should be good for the Sakray test server.

[WolfTri]

Imo, the commonly used items we're still missing are:

 

General NPCs and item sets:

Fallen Angel Wing Enchanter, Temporal Boots Enchanter, RWC Accessories Enchanter.

Weight limit increase NPC

Mado gear NPC

Warg Flute

Godly Items

Mora Item sets

 

Headgears

 

Spoiler

Cat Ear Beret (Not really essential)

Red Pom Band (Not really essential)

Crown of Deceit (Essential)

Skull Cap (Essential)

Evil Marching Hat (Essential)

Vanargand Helm, Rideword Hat (Replaceable by consumables)

Community Headgears (Varied)

Isabella Ears (Somewhat essential)

White Drooping Eddga (Somewhat essential)

Slotted Middle Headgears (Very Essential)

 

Weapons

Tried to list the commonly used weapons per class which are not already available.

Spoiler

Carga Mace (Essential)

Twin Edge of Naght Sieger Red (Essential)

Tae Goo Lyeon (Essential)

Staff of Destruction (Essential)
Kronos (Essential)

Hunting Spear (Essential)

Imperial Spear (Essential)

Elven Bow (Essential)

Pile Bunker (Essential)

Chakram (Essential)

Krishna (Essential)

Bazerald (Essential)

 

Armor

Spoiler

Orleans's Gown

Geffen Magic Robe

Tidung

Slotted Elemental Armors (Lucius, Aebecee, Claytos, Saphien)

Diabolus Robe

 

Garment

Spoiler

Niddhogur's Shadow Garb (Essential)

Valkyrian Manteau (Essential)

 

Shield

Spoiler

Valkyrja's Shield (Essential)

Immune Shield (Essential)

Gray Shield (Somewhat Essential)

Platinum Shield (Somewhat Essential)

Orleans's Server (Not really essential)

 

Boots

Spoiler

Temporal Boots (Very Essential)

Enhanced Variant Shoes (Very Essential)

Variant Shoes (Somewhat Essential)

 

Accessories

Spoiler

RWC 2012 Accessories (Essential)

Orleans's Glove (Somewhat Essential)

Telekinetic Orb (Somewhat Essential)

Bradium Earring (Somewhat Essential)

 

Consumables

Spoiler

Yggdrasil Seed

Yggdrasil Leaf

+20 Stat Foods

+10 Stat Foods

HP Increase (Large)

SP Increase (Large)

Vitata500

Celermine Juice

Edited by WolfTri, 05 August 2015 - 09:23 PM.

[Kadelia]

lower your standards, 90% of that stuff is not 'essential' most of those are luxury items and optimization items not like "it's impossible to play properly without this' like Phen was.

[Vath]

When will sakray be up?

[Talvis]

What about faceworm skin?

[KriticalAssassin]

List that I have to Campitor that should be getting added into Sakray:

Spoiler

Gears:
Temporal Boots [1] (for each of the stats)
Temporal Boots (non slotted version too)(for each of the stats)
Turkey on your Head [1]
Black_Devil_Mask_
W_King_Tiger_Doll_Hat
Tae_Goo_Lyeon
Expert_Ring
Faceworm_Queen's_Leg
Twin_Edge_R
Valkyrja's_Shield
Immuned_Shield
Black_Glasses_
Flame_Sprits_Armor_
Water_Sprits_Armor_
Wind_Sprits_Armor_
Earth_Sprits_Armor_
Magingiorde
Sleipnir
Brysinggamen
Mjolnir
Brynhild
Asprika
Hervor
Jormungand
Enhanced_Variant_Shoes
Orleans_Gown
Long_Octopus_Balloon
Cat_Ear_Beret
Destruction_Rod
Carga_Mace
Evil_Marcher_Hat
Golden_Mace_
Cakram
Assassin_Handcuffs
Imperial_Spear
Pilebuncker
Hankie_In_Mouth

Misc:
Wind_Of_Verdure
Crystal_Blue
Yellow_Live
Boody_Red
Coagulated_Spell
Holy_Cannon_Ball
Soul_Cannon_Ball
Dark_Cannon_Ball
Iron_Cannon_Ball
Anger_Seagod
Wolf's_Flute
Token_Of_Siegfried
Max_Weight_Up_Scroll
Heartbroken_Tears
Mora_Coin
Silvervine
Poison_Leech
Special_Alloy_Trap
Yellow_Wish_Pts
Scarlet_Pts
Lime_Green_Pts
Indigo_Pts


Useable:
Wing_Of_Butterfly
Leaf_Of_Yggdrasil
Aloebera
Runstone_Luxanima
Runstone_Asir
Runstone_Verkana
Runstone_Nosiege
Runstone_Rhydo
Runstone_Urj
Runstone_Hagalas
Runstone_Storm
Runstone_Isia
Runstone_Turisus
Elemental_Fire
Elemental_Water
Elemental_Earth
Elemental_Wind
Water_Of_Darkness
Yggdrasilberry
Seed_Of_Yggdrasil
SP_Increase_Potion_(Large)
HP_Increase_Potion_(Large)
Vitata_500
Minor_Stew
Savage_Full_Roast
Drosera_Herb_Salad
Siroma_Iced_Tea
-_-tail_Warg_Blood
Petite_Tail_Noodles
Concentrated_Ceromain_Soup

NPC's:
Fallen Angel Wing Enchanter NPC
Temporal Boots Enchantment NPC
Malangdo Enchant NPC
Mado gear mount NPC
Shadow gear NPC (if you have it from when it was previously in sakray)
Shadow gear Refine NPC
Ripped Callus (Heavy lifter npc)
Mora Gear Exchange NPC's
Mora Gear Enchant NPC's

[Kadelia]

Yeah lets not add wanderer items like regrettable tear and throat lozenge. Its not like a chunk of 14.3 is for performer gears or anything.

[KriticalAssassin]

Yeah lets not add wanderer items like regrettable tear and throat lozenge. Its not like a chunk of 14.3 is for performer gears or anything.

 
regrettable tear (Heartbroken_Tear) is in the list, but i forgot to add throat lozenge

Edited by KriticalAssassin, 06 August 2015 - 06:52 AM.

[WolfTri]

lower your standards, 90% of that stuff is not 'essential' most of those are luxury items and optimization items not like "it's impossible to play properly without this' like Phen was.

Testing involves successfully maneuvering the entirety of the memorial dungeons and other content, which are no doubt challenging. That in mind, top of the line equipment would certainly be deemed "essential". I tried to cover as many ideal gears as most common viable builds would require. Things listed as non-essential are those that would be ideal for a different, not-so-common build path, and which may not be effective or necessary in the given dungeons. Also, it isn't like its hurting anyone to provide said equipment. Makes the testing process several times more efficient. Don't see your reason for plaint. Also, if you wanted certain equipment, perhaps you should have compiled the list yourself. You're more than welcome to add things, I don't have full knowledge of all classes and hence cannot know all the necessary equipment.

[Kadelia]

Nope people completed the instances with the sub par gears already so you are factually wrong. Only certain classes were playable to this end, however. For example, gene was unplayable because no cannon balls or acid bombs. Warlock was unplayable because no phen. Etc. Those are "essential" items. The ones you talk about are nicities that make it easier, rather than make or break testing ability altogether.

I don't think you realize when you request stuff you create hours of work for campitor or whoever is developing. You shouldn't overburden him with requests that are more personal in nature and outside the scope of why sakray is set up. Its up to check 14.3 for bugs with npcs, translation issues, inability to set quest flags, new items not functioning at all, or whatever. Not a playground for you to test builds. If campitor has time to add a few things he will, but don't masquerade your optimal build testing items as "essential" for testing 14.3.

That is all I am suggesting.

Edited by Jaye, 06 August 2015 - 07:19 AM.

[WolfTri]

By that logic, even 175/60 isn't essential, nor are all the mvp cards that just got put in. And yet, there they are. The point of a test server is to enable testers to voluntarily test new content with as much ease and efficiency as possible, not a grind. There is simply nothing to lose by providing a tester any possible tool that might be helpful. I already mentioned what I mean by "essential", things that are part of an ideal build path in a normal scenario. I deemed non-essential as items which are used situationally, which are either rare or irrelevant to what is currently being tested. 

Sure you could complete the instances given enough time and effort and party members, none of which I'm willing to put in on a test server. Hence the necessity of these "niceties". I don't deny that they are top of the line, but my point is that top of the line is exactly what we should be getting on a test server.

Keep in mind that these NPCs can stay, and the effort saved for testers now and in future updates outweighs the effort needed to put in said items.

 

Edit: The items I requested are things I already have access to on Chaos, so a "masquerade for optimal build testing" is well out of the question. I realize it takes hours to put them in, but how many hours will be saved for how many testers by putting these in? Consider future updates as well, rather than thinking in the short term.

 

Edit2: If my request was personal, I would have sent a personal message to a GM. The reason I posted it here is so it is public, and people can add what they deem essential. I also don't see how you're making the assumption that my request was "personal". Maybe your first assumption about people shouldn't be that they're doing it for personal gain. The only reason I'm on sakray is to help identify bugs, something I've been doing throughout my RO life.  

Edited by WolfTri, 06 August 2015 - 07:49 AM.

[Campitor]

Sakray is up the player requested gear NPC has a large amount of new gears. Next to him is a consumable npcs with alot more consumables. Trying to find the mount scripts.

[WolfTri]

Sakray is up the player requested gear NPC has a large amount of new gears. Next to him is a consumable npcs with alot more consumables. Trying to find the mount scripts.

Sweet, has most of the requested items. Thanks!

[scrunch3y]

Bug Report: Hero Magic Coat says it prevents interruption of Cast(Phen card effect), but it does not.

[Hissis]

Ok,we got Coagulated Spell,Silvervine,SeaGod,Gym Pass but no npc's to use it '-'

 

btw,thanks camp will be  more easier with all this gears

Edited by Hissis, 06 August 2015 - 02:59 PM.