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#126 Myzery

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:36 AM

Also, let's look at the facts here.

People have been reported for blatantly cheating and botting.
They get banned, then Heimdallr (his actual words) "People need to be rehabilitated, not banned"
The account gets released with 0 penalties or account wipes.


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#127 Campitor

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:37 AM

*snort laugh*

 

Just defend people who are innocent so that it doesn't continue. Telling you this as someone who's gone through it 5ever! Unless you like being spammed with unactionable reports - how else will people know what is allowed and what isn't if you don't lay down examples hahaha. Just the other week Warnhal made up some new rule to me in PM promising a public announcement, we found that many other guilds were in violation of the new rule. The community harassed me about it with no prompting and Oda allowed it! In retaliation we mentioned a variety of examples that also broke the rule (as shouldn't this be public knowledge if they could get banned but think they're legal?), but those examples were deleted... because only Xellie must know this rule (because it only applies to her!)

 

Just let me know when the rules are known to everyone in the game and not just the pets.

 

 

Sorry not sorry. Been sick of this stuff for a while  and it's not just client edits.

PM me this rule change so I know exactly what discuss with Warnhal.


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#128 Xellie

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:39 AM

Aww warnhal is my man. He is the only GM/CM that has ever talked to me :). The other GMs or CMs are just to cool for me I guess :(.

 

Also lol

 

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PM me this rule change so I know exactly what discuss with Warnhal.

 

Will do my friend, will do.


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:41 AM

I'm surprised that people care so much about cheating on renewal still. Aside from monitoring my own guild, I stopped caring ages ago after Inu working so hard on logging all the autopotters and nodelayers, yet nothing was done even though there was solid data for proof.


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#130 Xellie

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:44 AM

I'm surprised that people care so much about cheating on renewal still. Aside from monitoring my own guild, I stopped caring ages ago after Inu working so hard on logging all the autopotters and nodelayers, yet nothing was done even though there was solid data for proof.

 

Don't make me agree with you. It's bad for both of our reps.

 

 

(aside that I care more about the grey area abuse by the GM team on their "rules" than the actual cheating. Most cheaters are bad/mad/sad. But whilst everything is so unclear, people can be banned for stuff they think is clean but isn't. In your case, seeing your stream but not knowing to not do it in WoE. Yes that's their own fault but not everyone has the arcane knowledge that is the rules of Ragnarok Online)


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#131 WolfTri

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:47 AM

Don't make me agree with you. It's bad for both of our reps.

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:48 AM

Campitor I am not sure why you are trying, when two girls fight, no man can break it up.
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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:49 AM

yuri confirmed dfdsfdgfg


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:50 AM

Also lol

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Will do my friend, will do.


It took him like 3 months to reply to me -_-. But at least he did unlike any of the others :).
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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:52 AM

how can the gms even push the ban button on this qtness. i know i wouldn't be able to

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uguuu so kawaii desu ka~!!!


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#136 WolfTri

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:52 AM

uguuu so kawaii desu ka~!!!

Instaban, Fkin weebs


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#137 Myzery

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:55 AM

how can the gms even push the ban button on this qtness. i know i wouldn't be able to

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uguuu so kawaii desu ka~!!!

 

Purple sura with an orchid is best sura. Way too cute.
 


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#138 Xellie

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:57 AM

Purple sura with an orchid is best sura. Way too cute.
 

 

That is true. I wish I had a purple orchid on Classic like Ambur or Sarah. They don't even play anymore and Oda still owes me loading screen hats.


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:59 AM

Instaban, Fkin weebs

 

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:00 AM

Great analogy.

 

No, it's not. It would be great if he didn't say that people were being arrested for illegally carrying weapons (not entering the merit of how good or bad this kind of laws are - and I think they're bad) because "weapons kill people". It's very different from being arrested under the accusation of murder for simply carrying a weapon.


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#141 Campitor

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:02 AM

Please post feedback about this thread here: https://forums.warpp...and-guidelines/

 

Is there something we need to clarify?

 

Warnhal will be converting it into a Knowledge Base article.. eventually.


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:03 AM

No, it's not. It would be great if he didn't say that people were being arrested for illegally carrying weapons (not entering the merit of how good or bad this kind of laws are - and I think they're bad) because "weapons kill people". It's very different from being arrested under the accusation of murder for simply carrying a weapon.

I didn't say anything about illegally carrying weapons. The assumption here is that carrying weapons is legal, as client edits are legal.

 

Edit: Also, we are discussing the legality or illegality of the matter here, so how does that matter?


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#143 Myzery

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:03 AM

Campitor, is portal recalling legal?

Your link says that it isn't.


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:07 AM

Campitor, is portal recalling legal?

Your link says that it isn't.

Intentionally doing so is not allowed.


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:09 AM

Hey Camp, how about players using harmonize outside agit? Is it punishable? Just clarifying.
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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:10 AM

Hey Camp, how about players using harmonize outside agit? Is it punishable? Just clarifying.

Pretty sure that would be harassment/skill abuse


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#147 Campitor

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:10 AM

Hey Camp, how about players using harmonize outside agit? Is it punishable? Just clarifying.

If you are doing it in an unfriendly manner then yes.


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#148 Xellie

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:12 AM

Please post feedback about this thread here: https://forums.warpp...and-guidelines/

 

Is there something we need to clarify?

 

Warnhal will be converting it into a Knowledge Base article.. eventually.

 

Well that's a huge change. No more portal stealth, cloak, hide, MA, GC? I mean.... why the hell should I have to change state and load into a cp?


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#149 Xellie

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:13 AM

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

NODELAY AND SKILL BUGGING RANKS LOWER THAN EMBLEM SHENANIGANS. I LOVE YOU GUYS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH.


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#150 Xellie

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:18 AM

Nope camp just confirmed something for me indirectly and I'm lovin' it.

 

tldr; GMs didn't believe my bug report, forced me to disband guild to fix it.

 

I might start doing some of the things that aren't listed on that list instead tho. Ahueheuheuahue


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