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[Campitor]

This is a small attempt to codify in a visible place activities and actions that are prohibited. 
 
 
Rule 1: If you believe something may be morally suspect don't do it. It will most likely result in account suspension. Even if it is not here.
 
 
Economic Activity

• Use of Bots to Vend is prohibited
• Use of Bots to Buy is prohibited
• Scamming players with NPC bought goods is prohibited
• Scamming players with items with similar sprites is prohibited
• Buy/Selling of WPE is done so at your own risk. But if you get scammed let us know so that we can suspend the scammer (nothing will be returned)
• Do not engage in duplication of items or zeny
• Do not buy from gold selling websites
• Do not engage in RMT activities with players OR websites
• Exploiting bugs or mechanics to disconnect other users is prohibited

Adventuring

• Use of Bots to adventure is prohibited
• Use of Bots to buff is prohibited
• Use of Bots to warp is prohibited
• Use of auto potion programs is prohibited
• Use of "No Delay" is prohibited
• Do not intentionally kill steal
• Do not intentionally mob train other users
• Do not debuff other players without their permission.
• Use of packet injection to heal, or target monsters, or use skills is prohibited.
• Exploiting bugs or mechanics to disconnect other users is prohibited

WoE

• Intentionally Portal Casting is prohibited
• Use of Bots to buff is prohibited
• Use of Bots to warp is prohibited
• Use of "No Delay" is prohibited
• Use of "Auto Potion" is prohibited
• WoE Emblems must have visible colors for at least 50% of the emblem sprite
  • ​Strongly encouraged to set emblems before WoE Starts
  • Refrain from switching emblems during WoE
    • ​It takes time for the server and client to update the sprite.
    • If the GM handling the report believes this is being done maliciously it can result in account suspension.
• ​​Do not debuff other players Outside the castles without their permission. 
• Use of packet injection to heal, or target other players, or use skills is prohibited.
• Exploiting bugs or mechanics to disconnect other users is prohibited

Social

• Do not impersonate other users, guilds, or staff.
• Do not use character names, guild names, party names, homunculus names, shop names, chat names pets to harass other users. (Ex: 'Campitor is a Loser')
• Do not make rude comments on the subject of looks, race, gender, sexual identity, or sexual preference
• Do not sexually harass other users. No one wants to know what you would do to them.
• Do not threaten other players with real life harm.
  • Threats of the in game variety are okay
    • This mean "I am going to break your castle you Poring Farmer!" is okay
    • "I am going to force you to quit!" is NOT okay
• Public calls for someone to be banned regardless of what they have done shall be considered harassment of that user. This will incur the normal harassment punishment pattern. If you wish to report something you must do so privately to the GM team.

Art

• We ask that users refrain from using art created by other users without permission
• The exchange of art for real money or WPE is not to be advertised on the forum

Tickets

• Do not tell the GMs to hurry up so you can RMT your restored items. They will believe you.
• Although restorations can be frustrating please attempt to treat the GM team with human respect and empathy they should be doing their best to assist you.

Client Edits

• Any Client edit except those that do the following are prohibited. What this means if they are not going to ban you if you use one of the ones below. We do not recommend that you ever edit your client. This can result in game client instability and we cannot assist you if you do so. You may need to reinstall the game to make the client playable again
  • Graphical Edits that help with the display of skill outlines
    • ​Ex Gutter Lines, Over Lays that show skill splash Zone
  • Graphical Edits that are purely Cosmetic in Nature
    • ​Ex. Big Card Edits (Please note replacing monster or player sprites can be viewed as giving players an unfair advantage and may result in account suspension)
  • Informational Client Edits that help with tracking buff timers
  • Creation of Mini Map files for maps that do not have them.
  • Certain Edits that help with client performance
    • ​Ex. Remove Shake, Remove Hallucination
  • Removal of Camera Restrictions on Maps DO NOT EDIT Render RADIUS
  • Use of Keyboard/AHK Macros that Do Not Automate Play
• ​​If you believe that something should be allowed please let Astra know and we will consider it.

[KamiKali]

Thanks Camp this post is well needed!

 

Also, does this mean, standing on a portal in cloak or camo, then casting recall, and having it go off on the other side without a cast time is prohibited?

[Campitor]

Thanks Camp this post is well needed!

 

Also, does this mean, standing on a portal in cloak or camo, then casting recall, and having it go off on the other side without a cast time is prohibited?

Intentionally portal casting is prohibited.

[Diskence]

 

Hopefully the White Wizard will be back before work is over ;_;

[Xellie]

If you're making portal cloaking illegal I'm done with this game lol

[mildcontempt]

Star Wars reference detected: Camp's status as "not secretly an agent of lizard overlords" is still safe. 

[WolfTri]

 

 

• Do not tell the GMs to hurry up so you can RMT your restored items. They will believe you.

 

Is there a story behind this? If there is, I'd very much love to hear it.

 

 

• Creation of Mini Map files for maps that do not have them.

Does this mean minimaps are allowed on WoE maps now? I can see this being problematic.

Edited by WolfTri, 06 October 2016 - 11:25 AM.

[Toxn]

Since it's not entirely "client" based, Things like packet injection should be mentioned somewhere.

 

Because there is always that one dude who would defend it.

 

WoE

• Use of "No Delay" is prohibited
• Use of "Auto Potion" is prohibited

 

Should probably be listed elsewhere, otherwise it would look like it's only prohibited in WoE.

Edited by Toxn, 06 October 2016 - 11:24 AM.

[Campitor]

Since it's not entirely "client" based, Things like packet injection should be mentioned somewhere.

 

Because there is always that one dude who would defend it.

 

 

Should probably be listed elsewhere, otherwise it would look like it's only prohibited in WoE.

Done.

[Campitor]

Is there a story behind this? If there is, I'd very much love to hear it.

Its pretty much that. One user did that so the GM banned him after the restore.

[Xellie]

Satan Morroc wants a new account since that isn't on the list

 

Also Maya Purple hacks please and thanks.

Edited by Xellie, 06 October 2016 - 11:44 AM.

[mildcontempt]

Its pretty much that. One user did that so the GM banned him after the restore.

 

Given WolfTri's avatar, that's some Stannis tier stuff right there. I approve of said GM. He/She is stern, but fair. 

[KriticalAssassin]

Adventuring

• Do not intentionally mob train other users

WoE

• Intentionally Portal Casting is prohibited

 

Mob train as in tanking mobs so another player can kill them to train their exp?? Or Mob train as in a trail of mobs behind you that you drop onto another player? Might need a little rewording on this one.

 

And intentional portal casting applies to everything? Or are things like cloaking (self target, non-attack skills) okay? And really, finally a statement on portal e-calling getting called against rules after all these years of bringing it up and being told it's been considered "skill" to do so... =\
 

[Xellie]

portal ecalling is stupid anyway and needs to go away

 

but portal cloak etc suddenly being illegal is dumb.

[PervySageMarty]

• Do not sexually harass other users. No one wants to know what you would do to them.

 

 

I am glad I have never broken this rule before.

[Demeris]

Pretty sure the majority of players know the rules. The problem is that nothing was ever done about these players comitting the crime.

Low TI is such a small map that KSing will inevitably happen. Are you really going to respond to all those KS report tickets?

Honestly, rules are nearly meaningless if people don't see any consequences happening to the players they see breaking the rules... which was why people kept using automated programs.

Edited by Demeris, 06 October 2016 - 11:59 AM.

[WarlockFier]

Is there going to be consequences to those who ignores these and continues to break the game rules? That is if they were reported with concrete evidence from replays/ screenshots/ videos.

 

Edit: ninja'd.. >>

Edited by WarlockFier, 06 October 2016 - 12:01 PM.

[Xellie]

The only AP bans I know of were undone.

[mrricebox]

I am glad I have never broken this rule before.

This is a lie, I have been harassed by Marty before. He once asked if I was a girl and I said no and he asked if I was willing to become a girl and I said no and he knocked my bowl of rice out of my hand and poured a pitcher of ice down my pants and said I should become a girl. This is a true story that I totally didn't make up, I would never lie about rice.

[Shomaye]

Is WoE terrain editing still illegal?  Are status effects (freeze, dispel, stone curse) considered player sprites, cosmetic, or grey area?  Is there a grace period before rule changes (50% emblem/portal casting self-targeted skills) become bannable?
 
 
EDIT:

The only AP bans I know of were undone.

There was one player who did not speak English and was unable to defend himself on the forum, so his ban was not overturned.

Edited by Shomaye, 06 October 2016 - 12:04 PM.

[Demeris]

Regarding the art rule,

Do we really need to make a rule for that? lol. There was just one bad case but in the end, it's not a representative of all the users on these forums. Should we ALWAYS be asking Gravity if we can use their art if a person decides to draw their characters? Do we need to ask permission from other games if we want to use their art as an avatar on their forums? Pretty much 99% of players you see here with avatars and signatures are breaking that rule since I highly doubt anyone went out to get permission from those specific animes or games.

What should be added is this, "Art that is plagiarized, claiming someone elses work as  your own, or using  to sell for money is prohibited." Otherwise, it's mostly harmless stuff if you see some work on someone's sig or avatar. At least that's how it's been done for the last 13 years of the game.

[WolfTri]

The only AP bans I know of were undone.

I don't think permabans are a good solution, but something like a 1 week ban for a first time offense should be okay, with increasing penalties with each consecutive offense. Maybe also a concept of "probation" where you monitor certain players with a history of cheating and so on, or maybe even a reduction in burden of proof in cases where there is cheating history. (This sounds like a really bad idea which I would never recommend in a real-life law, but it just might be worth considering)

[Xellie]

If people don't watermark the commissions they do for others when they post them in public and then the person who bought it plasters it everywhere, it's going to end up on google mixed in with all thsoe other RO arts/fanarts that nobody knows where its from so how the hell can a rule be made out of that?

 

We should follow law naming systems. This shall henceforth be known as #Kali's Law.

[ZeroTigress]

People can remove watermarks, so that's not always a guaranteed thing.

[Demeris]

If people don't watermark the commissions they do for others when they post them in public and then the person who bought it plasters it everywhere, it's going to end up on google mixed in with all thsoe other RO arts/fanarts that nobody knows where its from so how the hell can a rule be made out of that?

 

We should follow law naming systems. This shall henceforth be known as #Kali's Law.

Creating a trivial rule after 1 bad incident. Probably that skype contact info helping someone get what they wanted.

Edited by Demeris, 06 October 2016 - 12:37 PM.