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Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:40 AM
The GM team cave to constant bitching
Exactly 50% transparency! Legal!
(We were using this one as a sign of respect due to some unfortunate circumstances)
And this? lol.
Basically, stop making up rules as you go along. Constant harassment and being vulgar is okay?
Good luck Classic, you're gonna need it.
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:44 AM
Disgusting that the GMs will instantly respond to whining about LEGAL things if it's against Valhalla, but they don't do anything if Valhalla reports with full documentation for over a month. But oh no, no GM bias here at all.
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:47 AM
What are those even supposed to be? Splooge and a thumbs up?
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:48 AM
As I've said before, the emblem rules as well as many others only apply to one particular person/guild. Less legal emblems are reported on renewal and continue to be used for months. You should be used to this sort of thing by now.
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:50 AM
Only VH has to follow rules, including the made up rules.
Other guilds don't have to follow rules.
GM bias at it's finest.
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:51 AM
The first WoE I try to stream in months and this is what the veterans of RO and potential new players see 
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:54 AM
There has been an alt guild on chaos for at least two years with the f word in the name and nobody seems to care.
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:55 AM
We use different emblems because we have 10+ recallers not even joking. Sometimes we wanna use diff emblems for symbolic reasons, that was never a rule.
Darned Forever
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:01 PM
The GM team cave to constant bitching
Exactly 50% transparency! Legal!
(We were using this one as a sign of respect due to some unfortunate circumstances)
Basically, stop making up rules as you go along. Constant harassment and being vulgar is okay?
Good luck Classic, you're gonna need it.
Hi! You should discuss this issue with Warnhal. If the GM team did anything but warn you about the emblem then that is inappropriate. As part of our on going effort inform users rather than take drastic sanction they should have been instructed to only warn so that everyone is on the same page.
For more information on emblems please see: https://support.warp...guidelines.aspx
https://forums.warpp...ines/?p=2513057
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:01 PM
What rule is it breaking? I mean seriously
Darned Forever
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:02 PM
There has been an alt guild on chaos for at least two years with the f word in the name and nobody seems to care.
If you have reported this and no action was taken please give me the ticket number.
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:03 PM
No I didn't report it because I honestly don't care. I'll send you the ropd link if you would like though.
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:03 PM
Nah they let the enemy set up - meanwhile our emblem has 50% so....
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:07 PM
For more information on emblems please see: https://support.warp...guidelines.aspx
https://forums.warpp...ines/?p=2513057
Article ID: 833, Created On: 8/30/2016, Modified: 11/22/2016
New Valhalla-only rule Xellie. You should have checked that obscure link for the ninja update. lmao
Darned Forever
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:07 PM
Nah they let the enemy set up - meanwhile our emblem has 50% so.... why don't you deal with sean
Did the GM prevent you from settings up your defenses/recall you?
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:07 PM
I tend to find ignoring GMs leads to bans.
You can keep modifying the game and rules only to suit those who it seems to favour, we're playing guildless now because fsck emblems amirite?
Edited by Xellie, 26 November 2016 - 12:08 PM.
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:10 PM
Besides its probably a trap because now I've technically changed it and yeah.
Darned Forever
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:11 PM
Article ID: 833, Created On: 8/30/2016, Modified: 11/22/2016
New Valhalla-only rule Xellie. You should have checked that obscure link for the ninja update. lmao
Lets be very clear over the last few months all guilds have had misconceptions regarding the rules because it was always "well X GM said this in 2007" "Y GM said that in 2010" so they have been working to define the rules in set knowledge base articles and like we posted on the forums. Everyone thought the same way on the bigger rules but small details about "How visible" were different. The GM team is trying to address that as best they can by creating these knowledge base articles and contacting guild leaders and warning them.
I think we can all agree that is the best way to handle such things regarding the emblems.
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:13 PM
Different parts of Ragnarok Online have different color backgrounds. Is there a certain way I can know beforehand if the color I choose will be bannable on a certain map?
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:13 PM
Or you can just drop it because its unenforceable because everyone has different colour perception. Maybe I'm colourblind and I cant see red emblems, Maybe I'm a tetrachromat and everything looks like a blob of puke on puke (most emblems do tbh) Just like you can't enforce 9 tile Bowling bash but can enforce portal recall but not pos bugging. Oh but you can enforce emblems but not guildlessness?
The whole thing is retarded and an outlet for player drama.
Darned Forever
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:18 PM
I have removed the call outs. It is up to the CMs to do what they want with those posts. If someone is harassing you in game. You must submit a ticket.
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:25 PM
Or maybe I should be sending fake tickets to recall gear that doesn't belong to me or selling duped BBs / duping gear / bugging ET to farm 20~30 RTEs and TSODs a run. I get that it/s hard but we have no desire to do those -_-ty things that's why we play legit and do "annoying" things. It's literally our only recourse.
So I think people should just stop being babies and learn to tactic. If I was able to handle an emblemless sinx with 2x meg gtb dr gr icepick vs old school emps (speaking of babies - real emps please...) then I don't see why any of these newer players or guilds can't learn to deal with it.
Meanwhile I make legitimate arguments for dealing with emblemlessness via guildlessness and its ignored because I'm not the child everyone is trying so hard to not leave behind.
I don't use this prase often in RO but ffs, git gud
Amateur Blogger
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:26 PM
The emblem is easy to see, IF and ONLY IF you're using a legit client. 80% of people still use grey world which is illegal and that's the only reason this thread exists. If people stopped using grey world then this wouldn't be a problem.
Essentially, don't cheat... but we get punished because the cheaters outnumber us 10:1.
Darned Forever
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:28 PM
The emblem is easy to see, IF and ONLY IF you're using a legit client. 80% of people still use grey world which is illegal and that's the only reason this thread exists. If people stopped using grey world then this wouldn't be a problem.
Essentially, don't cheat... but we get punished because the cheaters outnumber us 10:1.
What punishment? The GMs should have online been warning/advising on this matter today.
Valkyrie
Posted 26 November 2016 - 12:36 PM
I still don't understand the problem with that emblem.
Romeu is running around with a pale orange version of the same thing (which he changed during WoE) and whilst I sometimes appreciate special treatment believe me this time it isn't welcome.
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