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[Zayaan]

Damn it, the GT-Convert Sura's password has been changed so that'll have to wait.

 

Remember the days about two years back when everyone and their mother complained about Arrow Storm? A skill which can now be mathematically proven to be inefficient without certain cards after a certain point? But these days every other class can do more. Ranger is literally a glass cannon with no other merits kek.

 

Still nice job!

 

Main complaint about AS Rangers was that they were too cheap to gear which is a silly complaint imo. They are and have always been inefficient at end game PVM.

[Nirvanna21]

Damn it, the GT-Convert Sura's password has been changed so that'll have to wait.

 

 

Main complaint about AS Rangers was that they were too cheap to gear which is a silly complaint imo. They are and have always been inefficient at end game PVM.

 

Yep, but people whined and whined because they were unable to find ways to make their builds work.

 

Now we have a solution for everything, wait until the next ocp comes etc etc.

[Darksorrow1234]

have u tested backstabbing amdarais? 

[mildcontempt]

@Zayaan, was that with glorious? 

[Usurper]

Reset to 120 Str and my Back Stab damage is much better now.



Dark Clawed, unlexed. Buffs used were Clementia, Shield Spell, Odin's Power, Magnum Break and converter. I could add double Megged and maybe Bear's Powered GT Convert but that would be pushing it lol.

 

That damage is Godly. 

 

On top of that, also consider using Fiber Lock + Fire Converter combo and getting the STR bonus from Stealth if you have level 5 of it

 

Also curious as to why you use Magnum Break instead of Sightless Mind? because the latter also gives 20% extra damage and you won't need to change accessories.

 

Now if Full Throttle was a bit decent...

Edited by Usurper, 08 October 2017 - 10:30 PM.

[ChaoticRK]

Reset to 120 Str and my Back Stab damage is much better now.



Dark Clawed, unlexed. Buffs used were Clementia, Shield Spell, Odin's Power, Magnum Break and converter. I could add double Megged and maybe Bear's Powered GT Convert but that would be pushing it lol.

How can you swap two acce at once? Provoke the monster then use aloe too please.

[Zayaan]

have u tested backstabbing amdarais? 

 

Nah, I don't run OGH these days. Might give Wolfchev's Lab a try with a Sac RG though.

 

@Zayaan, was that with glorious? 

 

Yeah, +12 Glorious.

 

That damage is Godly. 

 

On top of that, also consider using Fiber Lock + Fire Converter combo and getting the STR bonus from Stealth if you have level 5 of it

 

Also curious as to why you use Magnum Break instead of Sightless Mind? because the latter also gives 20% extra damage and you won't need to change accessories.

 

Now if Full Throttle was a bit decent...

 

That's a good idea, I didn't realize Stealth gave Str. And I remember you said Sightless Mind and Dark Claw don't stack, that's why I didn't use it.

 

How can you swap two acce at once? Provoke the monster then use aloe too please.

 

No accessories are being swapped. Megs would be used by Sura, not SC. I'll use Aloevera (and remember to use Takoyaki) next time!

[ChaoticRK]

No accessories are being swapped. Megs would be used by Sura, not SC. I'll use Aloevera (and remember to use Takoyaki) next time!

Oh, I see. I thought you're gonna swap the shadows with megs just right before the damage calculations are being done. Silly me.

Distilled fighting spirit is better than tako.

[Usurper]

That's a good idea, I didn't realize Stealth gave Str. And I remember you said Sightless Mind and Dark Claw don't stack, that's why I didn't use it.

 

 

Yep about +16 additional STR at lvl 5 if I remember correctly, the buff lasts longer if you're in Soul Link though.

 

Oh yeah it doesn't stack with SM, so that explains it nice. didn't bother testing that before.

Edited by Usurper, 09 October 2017 - 05:41 AM.

[Ashuckel]

tako is 50 atk

[ChaoticRK]

tako is 50 atk

Wait, really?

[Nirvanna21]

Wait, really?

 

Yep, I figured it out about a year or two back, whenever I started the calc.

 

It gives 50 ATK, 50 MATK 9 Luk (Which does take over the VIP buff).

[ChaoticRK]

Yep, I figured it out about a year or two back, whenever I started the calc.

It gives 50 ATK, 50 MATK 9 Luk (Which does take over the VIP buff).

I see. Thanks.

[DOGYDOOOG]

is there any skill that turn the nemy around so we can backstab?

[Usurper]

is there any skill that turn the nemy around so we can backstab?

None, I've tried it before with cross impact since it spins the target around but the game only recognizes your targret's backside based on the last cell it came from, fortunately the game does not understand where the backside is when the target moves diagonally hence allowing BS to be spammed.

If you're trying to use it in PvP, I suggest prioritizing masq skills first, once they get masq'd, they run and if they run diagonally stop them with fiber lock or use flying kick>windmill>emergency escape or you could also try your luck with chaos panic.

If you have Ignition Break repro'd, one BS then IB would do the job, just make sure you masq them first.

Edited by Usurper, 04 November 2017 - 08:23 PM.

[powerhausman]

 

 

poor bow

 

soooo underrated

[fuyukikun]

Crimson bow > vigil bow

[powerhausman]

Crimson bow > vigil bow

 

you must be blind man

 

check the screenie

 

check the stat, the bow...even +9 already will do  same dmg

 

and the most important thing is...super dirt cheap than +15 crimson bow

[fuyukikun]

add the same setup but now with +7 old shadow handicraft:

 

 

 

with hawkeye

 

 

cant wait to make this hat +12

sure, coz in this screens, my hat is just +7

[fuyukikun]

result at +12

 

without Hawkeye

 

with hawkeye

 

 

try putting 2x AK cards on your vigil bow

Edited by fuyukikun, 02 January 2018 - 11:57 PM.

[powerhausman]

hmm may agi is 84 and my bow is +10 only

 

but i can see why you miss some dmg there

 

now try another screenie with shield spell on

 

so i can finally conclude that

[fuyukikun]

there u go with shield spell:

 

without HE

 

with HE

[powerhausman]

there u go with shield spell:

 

without HE

 

with HE

 

wow that's so nice of you

 

comparing it to my ss i still think a +9 vigil bow is better than that

 

i just cant find a cheap AK to pair it with my lone one to slot to my bow atm

[powerhausman]

i think i can save my AK's for the sake of arguments here

 

oops (edits pix haha)

 

 

 

 

Edited by powerhausman, 03 January 2018 - 01:36 AM.

[fuyukikun]

my buffs is only shield spell

 

while you has eden buff, shield spell, arclouze dash (gives both agi and ranged dmg), increase agi.

 

my dmg will raise even further wiith those buffs (especially arc dash)