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#1 Campitor

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 04:44 PM

Currently we are in the process of requesting the following information and settings from the RO studio. The changes listed below are the current settings on other REVO Classic style servers. We would like to give the community a chance to make feedback before we officially request that the changes be implemented.
 
 
Guillotine Fist
Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
1000, 1000, 1000, 1000, 1000
 
SP Recovery Debuff Duration
3000, 3000, 3000, 3000, 3000,

 

 

Acid Bomb

Fixed Cast Delay

1000 (All Levels)

 

Single Post Delay

2000 (All Levels)

 

Global Post Delay

1000 (All Levels)

 

Edit: 3/21

Zen

Stat Based Cast Delay

2500 All Levels

 

 

In Addition we will at the same time check on the following settings to make sure we are giving the appropriate play experience for RESTART.

 

Monster Drops and EXP Realignment

The goal is to make sure that we are using the correct EXP/Drops charts for monsters going into the trans update.

 

Required EXP Realignment

The goal is to verify that the EXP table provided to us is correct going into the Trans Update.

 

 

Please post your feedback and we will make the appropriate requests next week. Thank you.

 

 


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#2 Panteperu

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 04:50 PM

Do not change the exp table, please.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 05:37 PM

u can start by removing all the renewal crap (e.g., stuff that comes out of the high weapon boxes that shouldn't exist yet)


Edited by spider, 16 March 2018 - 05:43 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 05:39 PM

buffs champs
 
still won't let thief class backslide
 
 
 

u can start by removing all the renewal crap (stuff that comes out of the high weapon boxes that shouldn't exist yet)


Also this ^

Edited by Xellie, 16 March 2018 - 05:40 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 05:45 PM

Put Delay in Guillotine Fist only, not in SP Recovery
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 05:45 PM

Do this instead:

 

Guillotine Fist
Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
3 seconds
 
SP Recovery Debuff Duration
0

 

 

Can pot sp right away after fist, but 3 seconds cooldown fist.


Edited by Lilp, 16 March 2018 - 05:46 PM.

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#7 BozidaR1390

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:13 PM

Do not change the exp table, please.

 

I don't think the current table is very healthy for the server. Keep in mind most players on here have jobs and kids and school. Cant afford all that time to grind.

 

Do this instead:

 

Guillotine Fist
Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
3 seconds
 
SP Recovery Debuff Duration
0

 

 

Can pot sp right away after fist, but 3 seconds cooldown fist.

 

So you can sit there and absorb and decrease agi while you wait for fist cd? No thanks. I'd be fine with a total skill lockout for 3 seconds with the ability to use sp pots but nothing more. 


Edited by BozidaR1390, 16 March 2018 - 06:13 PM.

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#8 fwdslxshj

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:28 PM

Gfist change looks good. Thanks Camp!


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:44 PM

Leave acid bomb alone, it doesn't need extra cast times or fixed cast times.

The champ fix is a step in the right direction.

If you are going to buff the champs correctly, don't back pedal and needlessly nerf another class that doesn't need nerfing.

Edited by Spoon, 16 March 2018 - 07:15 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:51 PM

remove the fixed cast and delay on acid bomb please. just make the delay a bit longer.

please also remove the sp regen for champs

 

if you want to make it balanced, then you're going to need to add fixed delays to other skills as well. ie: bowling bash, FAS, arrow shower, etc.

if we wanna play renewal server with everything having fixed cast times/delays, then we would be playing that.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:58 PM

Might as well give us back the old Backstab where you didn't need to stand behind an enemy.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 07:25 PM

So with the monster drops/exp alignment, does that mean that the current tweaked version of Juperos is going to be going away? If that's the case, then it's even more reason I hope we go with the other REVO classic server's EXP tables. Our current version of 2,710,946,843 EXP from 1-99 is quite a bit higher than the Thai version of 1,957,764,850 1-99 trans. Almost 3x exp from normal class vs 4x. The 3x makes a lot more sense when the Classic exp table is also 3x exp from base->trans.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 07:58 PM

So you can sit there and absorb and decrease agi while you wait for fist cd? No thanks. I'd be fine with a total skill lockout for 3 seconds with the ability to use sp pots but nothing more.


Yeah just dont mind me being locked out of skills while i get bombed/sharp shot/SDs/whatever the fack to oblivion.
Its fine though i can pot blue pots!!
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 08:02 PM

would it also be possible to add a permanent job exp bonus like 15% or so?

 

and/or

 

make job manuals half the cost

 

and/or

 

add a job exp event?


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 09:01 PM

Thanks Campi, I like all of those changes, it's a step in the right direction 

 

If there should be a SP Recovery Debuff Duration at all, is something ppl can discuss about, but going from 10 seconds to 3 seconds is a big improvement.

Also very appreciated that we get those information here in the forum, keep it up  :no1:

 


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 09:42 PM

would it also be possible to add a permanent job exp bonus like 15% or so?

and/or

make job manuals half the cost

and/or

add a job exp event?


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 12:12 AM

Please consider there more clases than monks and creator. Many ppl want to enjoy the game before quitting bc if thirds.

Exp tables is ok... if ppl is busy (or lazy like me) we can always buy their way to lvl and as it was told before WP is a business company. I always thought that was the model of playing an oficial server.

Maybe here it could apply some zeny sink (for base lvl) idea too, prolly not a good one, if the server wasn't that broken bc of thr massive zeny out there.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 01:26 AM

BUFF WIZ AND ASSA CLS THANK YOU


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 02:00 AM

 

if you want to make it balanced, then you're going to need to add fixed delays to other skills as well. ie: bowling bash, FAS, arrow shower, etc.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 03:42 AM

 

Acid Bomb

Fixed Cast Delay

1000 (All Levels)

 

Single Post Delay

2000 (All Levels)

 

Global Post Delay

1000 (All Levels)

 

 

 

There is no point on leaving fixed cast time on  a skill when you don have support skills from other classes (ArchBishop) or gear to reduce this like on renewal.

 

Should be added if we get renewal mechanics or third jobs.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 05:48 AM

I also think the cooldown should be on GFist only, and eliminate the sp recovery blockage... but that's an improvement already, so thanks...

 

Regarding Acid Bomb I'm more concerned with the damage output, considering renewal formulas and the availability of Hurricane Fury/Elemental Sword, which shouldn't exist on this episode yet...

 

And what about the duping issues (for how long has unobtainable items/cards and a -_-load of zeny have been around already...?) and a bigger zeny sink, by the way?


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 05:59 AM

BUFF WIZ AND ASSA CLS THANK YOU

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:18 AM

BUFF WIZ AND ASSA CLS THANK YOU


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:40 AM

 

BUFF WIZ AND ASSA CLS THANK YOU

 

& Priests


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:04 AM

BUFF WIZ AND ASSA CLS THANK YOU

 

THIS ^


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