112 replies to this topic

[MythicalFox]

I can't patch sakray ;3;

I always get an error "Failed to connect to file server" ;3;

 

Does anyone have a link to download the sakray files manually?

[Gamblerwolf]

revive enforcer please, how else will ill be able to profit from the ten's i horded! 

[Kirito927]

Why not just limited fct -100% for sura skill only since this ocp gear is born to buff Sura

[Campitor]

Excelion shield is ocp item

Excellion Suit and Swings are not.

[kappakeepokupo]

Excellion Suit and Swings are not.

Do we get excellion slides and monkey bars in the future?

Edited by kappakeepokupo, 16 May 2018 - 04:32 PM.

[carbinemortiser]

Why not just limited fct -100% for sura skill only since this ocp gear is born to buff Sura

There is no way to make it 100% for a particular skill.

[angelopaol1011]

Limiting the headgear to sura only and leaving the fct reduction to 100% is the way to go.

It has no demi reduction and bonus stats which still makes celine a fair choice rather than this one.

[lorenz1375]

Just when i thought devils hand will somehow make sura feel special atleast in pvm

...and you guys shared it to everyone else wtf

[Olivieri]

I can't patch sakray ;3;

I always get an error "Failed to connect to file server" ;3;

 

Does anyone have a link to download the sakray files manually?

 

I can't patch it either... got the same error =/

 

Someone knows how to fix it?? =P

[WolfTri]

Can yall stop bitching about a headgear that already has 100% def penetration?

[Handersen]

Can yall stop bitching about a headgear that already has 100% def penetration?

Take that def penetration to 0% and let the FCT 100%

[Hissis]

Can yall stop bitching about a headgear that already has 100% def penetration?

 

Probably not, people want ez game.

 

@topic

 

Nice changes Camp, really nice changes

[ka10]

for devil's hand:

 

1.

the current description on sakray is partially wrong;

+10 refine is needed only for the 100% def bypass for all races - it is NOT needed for the extra effects from maxing LR, ES, and RB (these effects currently apply properly, as it is in jRO);

likely a translation oversight - even though descriptions in jRO are clear when it comes to distinct effects (e.g. numbered lists or dash breaks);

 

2.

the hat in jRO was designed with jRO mechanics, so the effect of maxing LR was simply written as "-50% cast time for summon spirit sphere (SSS), zen, MS, and lion's howl (LH)";

jRO monk/champ skills cast times are all variable - there are no fixed portions:

SSS: 1 sec var

zen: 2 sec var

MS: 5 sec var

(and for reference, spirit sphere absorb (SSA): 2 sec var, gfist lvl 5: 3 sec var)

so in jRO, maxing LR with the hat basically halves the cast times for SSS, zen, MS, and the var cast portion of LH (1 sec); which makes it easy to insta/near-insta them using var cast reducs from other gears/buffs, and contributes to the usability of LH (lvl 5 uses 5 spheres) - the hat's main focus, notably when there are not enough mobs to consistently proc spheres from GT-energy gain - i.e. fast casting zen as needed;

 

however, iRO 1st/2nd/trans class skills may also have fixed portions on their cast times, at varying proportions;

for iRO monk/champ skills:

SSS: 0.5 var + 0.5 fix

zen: 2 fix (yes, no variable portion)

MS: ~2 var + ~3 fix

(and for reference, both SSA and gfist lvl 5 in iRO have 1 var + 1 fix)

 

so with the hat giving -50% fixed cast, we are still left with LH's 0.25 sec fixed, so damage gears will have to be ditched in favor of var/fix cast reduc gears if fast spam is the intention;

sure one could go 120 dex temp boots in iRO to easily fully get rid of LH's fixed cast, but what is the point of the hat's -50% fixed cast effect then? and also jRO players could simply go 120 str temp, tengu's geta, etc with the hat instead;

iRO players have already been using -50% fixed cast from +9 kvm fist, sacrament, power scrolls, celine combo - so the hat's effect is essentially redundant since %fixed reducs don't stack, with only the highest value taken;

 

by the way, the maxed LR effect of -50% var cast for SSS/zen/MS/LH likely wont even stack with variable cast reducs in general for iRO - e.g. the skill-specific var cast reduction for GoH from keraunos, does not stack with spell enchants, strings, etc;

 

now, one alternative is to just change the %fixed cast reduction to flat fixed (like temp dex boots) - and ideally absolutely restrict the effect to sura classes only:

e.g. hat alone gives -0.5 fixed cast (gets rid of LH's fixed portion), and with LR maxed, gives -50% var cast reduc for SSS, zen (pointless in iRO since there's no var portion), MS, and LH - and additional -0.5 fixed cast (to halve zen cast time down to 1 sec - just as it does in jRO); - this way iRO players can still take advantage of -50% fixed cast from other gears/buffs, just as how jRO players could further reduce zen cast time with var cast reducs;

 

so the idea to adapt the hat's effect in iRO to closely mimic what it does in jRO, which allows spamming LH/zen approx. just over 0.5LH/sec, which sounds reasonable enough (GX get to spam RC faster but 5x5 aoe; gen can also spam faster with cast delay gears but targeted 7x7 aoe);

 

Spoiler

personally -100% fixed (sura only) sounds nice; but then people would complain about insta-zen and insta-fist - but with woe/pvp dead?

the only real effect of this is for mvping, and it's not like there are tons of doubled meg, tanee, ultra-geared, fast cast fenrir suras out there camping 24/7, as opposed to other mvp classes which can be geared just as ridiculously -  there's many other solo instances to farm zeny safely as opposed to just focusing on comping field mvps;

also, insta-fist in pvm would also require -100% var cast reduc since it is half fixed, half variable - so the the sura will still have to forgo damage gears (less chance for loot priority) in favor of var cast reducs to even go near-insta. 

Edited by ka10, 16 May 2018 - 05:57 PM.

[MythicalFox]

I can't patch it either... got the same error =/

 

Someone knows how to fix it?? =P

 

Campitor, can't you help us out here? :c

[Silvianna]

Stop this < B O O P >

Valkyrie's Drop should only BUFF AB class only.

 

and Devil's Hand should only BUFF Sura class only. 

Edited by VModMango, 16 May 2018 - 07:46 PM.
Do not bypass word filters. It's there for a reason.

[YongkySH]

Limiting the headgear to sura only and leaving the fct reduction to 100% is the way to go.

It has no demi reduction and bonus stats which still makes celine a fair choice rather than this one.

Box wont sell well if its sura only

[angelopaol1011]

Box wont sell well if its sura only

 

And it will not also sell if its -50% fct reduction only
 

[ChakriGuard]

Stop this <B O O P>

 

Valkyrie's Drop should only BUFF AB class only.

 

and Devil's Hand should only BUFF Sura class only. 

 

Bull-_- things are more interesting ... if you'd let me to jump on the train too ...

 

Imperial Feather should only BUFF Royal Guard class only.

Edited by VModMango, 16 May 2018 - 07:47 PM.
fixing quote's filter bypass

[YongkySH]

And it will not also sell if its -50% fct reduction only

But for every class
Gx
Gene
Rebel
Even for magic class

Edited by YongkySH, 16 May 2018 - 06:12 PM.

[LordYggdrasill]

So you plan to keep the 100% def bypass Opness for devil’s hand? I don’t think it’s a good decision at all, there shouldn’t be such an item that gives 100% penetration without significant setbacks.You can do it with PDM but you have to put 126 on LUK, similarly 126 STR for 100% mdef bypass. Oh yeah if you recall, we don’t have such an item that gives 100% mdef bypass all by itself like this one. I thought there is a reason why they made it right slot only for blacksmith and magician gloves, seems I was wrong.

Edited by LordYggdrasill, 16 May 2018 - 06:12 PM.

[Silvianna]

tldr, whatever float your boat WP

Edited by Silvianna, 16 May 2018 - 06:38 PM.

[CadburyChocolate]

So you plan to keep the 100% def bypass Opness for devil’s hand? I don’t think it’s a good decision at all, there shouldn’t be such an item that gives 100% penetration without significant setbacks.You can do it with PDM but you have to put 126 on LUK, similarly 126 STR for 100% mdef bypass. Oh yeah if you recall, we don’t have such an item that gives 100% mdef bypass all by itself like this one. I thought there is a reason why they made it right slot only for blacksmith and magician gloves, seems I was wrong.

We can have that next month for mdef!

[kappakeepokupo]

I'm bothered as well why they didn't just restrict the gears to certain classes :u

[ChakriGuard]

Restricting gears to certain unpopular classes means popular OP classes where the majority players play will not benefit any. The majority people speak first. The minority or players who actually play/main the unpopular classes just have to shut up. When a weak class might get good buffs, strong enough to be competitive in PvM, it gets shut down because it might be a threat in PvM. This is what I'm getting from iRO community 

[Sigma1]

We can have that next month for mdef!

Only one hat which has such effect that I remember is Garden of Eden.