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#1 MilkyThief

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:05 PM

The WoE scene is already dead enough as it is. With the emergence of one new WoE guild, a little steam is being blown back into the hamster turning the wheel. I say we need to nurture this, and not smother this flame like in the past. With the arrival of all the OCP items, in addition to various 3PP, Dorams in WoE PVP are beyond broken and need to be nerfed or disabled. Either make them demihuman, or disable them in WoE.

 

Currently, in jRO Dorams are not allowed in WoE as they disrupt the balance too much. 

 

For those of you who do not know how fast Dorams can hit, I will post this from a recent PVP session. I will add some WoE clips soon from tonights WoE so you can see what it is like.

 

Keep in mind, this is a masq'd cat, meaning not their full power.

 


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:07 PM

They hit harder with no delay, because you can only do so many PP per second naturally. With a legit client and enough delay reduction you can do 2 per second, 3~4 IF both proc'ed and even then it spills into the next second.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:10 PM

Even legit ones hurt a lot =\


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:11 PM

Even legit ones hurt a lot =\

 

To be fair, I am geared pretty much top end so :I


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:13 PM

To be fair, I am geared pretty much top end so :I

 

 

I have full reducts, and over 200k HP and still get melted within seconds. I am not saying we need to invalidate the class in WoE, but there needs to be some level of balance for them. If iRO cannot find said balance, then it just needs to be disabled until something is worked out.

 

 

OR just cancel WoE all together. I am okay with that too. All or nothing.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:13 PM

I have full reducts, and over 200k HP and still get melted within seconds. I am not saying we need to invalidate the class in WoE, but there needs to be some level of balance for them. If iRO cannot find said balance, then it just needs to be disabled until something is worked out.

 

 

OR just cancel WoE all together. I am okay with that too. All or nothing.

 

I am happy with the latter, getting sick of the cheaters.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:18 PM

I am happy with the latter, getting sick of the cheaters.

 

I could make another thread about Cheating in WoE, but much like the GMs I have given up on that. This thread isn't trying to start drama. I am trying to have a discussion about Dorams in WoE in the current meta. 

 

We all care about this game in one form or another, or else we wouldn't be playing. 

 


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:22 PM

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:39 PM

Yah make it even... This is the time to let the Dogs out... We need Dog characters now... and 1 hit them...


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 04:42 PM

KRO lol solution : Adds more brute/small %Atk/%Matk items.
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:05 PM

If you think cat is OP in woe then make a guild of all cats problem solved
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:06 PM

If you think cat is OP in woe then make a guild of all cats problem solved

 

No. 


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:14 PM

No.


Nobody tell you not to make cats in first place. If you think sura is OP then make sura at least that was what happened before cat arrived in ragnarok lol
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:15 PM

Nobody tell you not to make cats in first place. If you think sura is OP then make sura at least that was what happened before cat arrived in ragnarok lol

 

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:19 PM

No I disagree. Cats are fine in WoE. You can finally kill a chaser or anyone using autopots. Before cat, rangers / sura / EB RG / Mado already one shot people wearing full WoE set with maximum reduction except chasers who are practically unkillable. Also now we got these crazy defensive gears from Cash Shop. 

 

Also Mado Mechanic or AB with penuma practically shutdown a cat party. 

 

If anything they should disable a chaser in WoE or make FCP immune to masq because nodelay chaser is pretty stupid too. 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:33 PM

How to punish cat?
-stick with AB pneuma.
-stick with Mado Neutral Barrier.
-use defender if you RG
-in pneuma/NB. Kill them with melee character.
-using cat against cat.
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:48 PM

Do you honestly think they are going to change them? The class is a joke, dev team is a joke, and cheaters are a joke.

 

Is the dev team going to do anything to fix them?

are they going to do anything about the cheaters?

 

I gave them the program and the guide on how to use it. nothing has even been said.

 

It's more of the cheaters than anything else.

 

The only thing is to lock the class out of woe. Do you think they are going to even do that? It's been asked multiple times.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:48 PM

No I disagree. Cats are fine in WoE. You can finally kill a chaser or anyone using autopots. Before cat, rangers / sura / EB RG / Mado already one shot people wearing full WoE set with maximum reduction except chasers who are practically unkillable. Also now we got these crazy defensive gears from Cash Shop.

Also Mado Mechanic or AB with penuma practically shutdown a cat party.

If anything they should disable a chaser in WoE or make FCP immune to masq because nodelay chaser is pretty stupid too.


That’s why they make cats lol
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 06:04 PM

Can they lock super novice? Because this class is unfair able to use all skills
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 06:04 PM

Just give up about trying to find a balance in this game.

 

As i already said 23020320 times, the community doesn't want any changes, too selfish.

 

Also, Gravity already gave up on the pvp/woe in this game. At this point the best suggestion i can give is : Don't play x_x

 

P.S: They can't even fix the Kagerou dye npc or implement simple stuff like pet hunger bar or new rock ridge drop table or fix 16.2 seyren,etc. something like a class balance sounds impossible.

 

P.S²: Game is a PVM game now.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 06:38 PM

Can we copy strike dorams?   :heh:

 

sorry but its a little bit dumb, just ban woe :v anyways i think no one is playing WoE anymore so whats the point? just go 10 min before woe ends and get castles *ops*

 

chakri used to kill cats you should try royal guard (?) and if they ban dorams then ban sura's and chasers also dispell and DD 

better just nerf everything lol  :ok:

 


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 07:13 PM

P.S²: Game is a PVM game now.

 

Is it though?


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 10:45 PM

Just give up about trying to find a balance in this game.

 

As i already said 23020320 times, the community doesn't want any changes, too selfish.

 

Also, Gravity already gave up on the pvp/woe in this game. At this point the best suggestion i can give is : Don't play x_x

 

P.S: They can't even fix the Kagerou dye npc or implement simple stuff like pet hunger bar or new rock ridge drop table or fix 16.2 seyren,etc. something like a class balance sounds impossible.

 

P.S²: Game is a PVM game now.

 

the community wants change. if they didnt, they would still be playing woe and joining the one shot fest. thing is they dont bring any change so some of us have grown tired. some of you guys too right?

 

difference is some of us gave up, some didnt. not saying you should not give up but that varies per person

 

honestly for gravity though, giving up on woe is the stupidest move ever. i play T o S nowadays and i'll tell you guys i do like it, but the distinct features of woe are still what i want. RO can suck it if they would be pvm oriented and totally disable woe. i'd gladly waste my resources on another game if that's what they wanna focus on

 

edit: dafuq why is T o S terms of service


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 10:49 PM

DarkOrinus, that game title is filtered.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 11:45 PM

"I have full reducts, and over 200k HP and still get melted within seconds."

 

I got full mvp top high-end gears too, and I still got masked by SC for 15 seconds, capable to do nothing. We should ban SC first.

 

I got full mvp top high-end gears too, and I still got one-shot by GOH. We should ban Sura too.

 

Use your brain before you speak. With your logic, why not we ban everything. WoE is always a team game, not a single player game. Ask for pneuma if you got a mouth rofl.


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