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#26 AceBanner

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:12 PM

The issue with duping will not go away unless it's being taken off completely & no one is able to further dupe items in-game (I doubt that will be easy or possible atm). Thus, disabling some items sold to NPC to convert zeny (pure in-game farmer) is not the best solution you guys made. :ho: 

Do you guys honestly believe they will no longer dupe items from the list you guys just gave after this? :yawn: 

At this point of time, I honestly don't see the issue is solved & inflation will go up or down little by little. :hmm:


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#27 kamikazezero

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:12 PM

IRO already mentioned long time ago strictly NO Bossnia! 


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#28 KianS

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:13 PM

Yeah! We only read one of the four changes.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:15 PM

Major offender here is Four Leaf Clover. It amounts to about 30% of investment returns iirc, will need a re-calc. I'd suggest increasing rates of Poison Bottles and/or food materials as compensation.
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#30 EsKa90

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:16 PM

Make those item works like monster token :pif:


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#31 BlackMeow

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:20 PM

just ban the traced account ffs. @_@ 


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:24 PM

no, just no
4 leaf clover is precious


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:24 PM

I will not be happy unless you elaborate the point 3 and 4 method. We will try to evaluate the effectiveness.
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:24 PM

making those clovers not sellable will only yield to high inflation prices on those investment items such as consumables


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:25 PM

Really, do you have to do this? Why not just make raffler permanent??
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#36 GetBack

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:30 PM

At least give us time, not all of a sudden. We have worked to do and we can only play during weekends/ rest day.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:37 PM

I'm fine with 3/4 but these are just preventive measures. Need to evaluate on the return of these items for investment tickets. 

Being able to trade for Treasure Box which are pretty much autobuy doesn't really solve the problem. Yes, we get easier access to pot brewing times, but dupers can still get zeny by selling it to vend store players, and get legit zeny while they are at it. Especially at the rate slims are being drink right now and how often slims are out of stock.

 

I hope ren can share their view on this matter.

 

The main point is still the duping.

 

These are just smaller patches to deal with smaller holes while the biggest hole is still left leaking.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:49 PM

Time to sell those looted bullions ets. from OGH then.

 

Anyway, am I the only one wondering why the gold bullion sells less then Silver Bullion?  :hmm:  :questionmark:

 


Edited by condySpectrum, 08 August 2018 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:51 PM

What is OGH? Is it a place where people farm to get rich?  :p_smile:  :p_conf:

 

People don't need to be rich to have fun, or use mega OP equips, but you need some zeny for survive and obtain decent gears, and this place can help people who don't have much zeny. Not all people can run Solo OGH every day with 3 or more alts, and farm a lot of Coagulated Spells, Temporal Crystal, OCA, etc... so the gold bullion, silver, colorful brooch, etc. gives a good extra zeny for those people.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:03 PM

Why cant u trace acc selling dupe to npc like how u trace illegal zeny flows and banned acc here and there from involving in illegal zeny? Just asking
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:11 PM

Some players are starting to slowly accumulate zenny by selling loots from instances. OGH is one of them and the loots help them gain zenny legally as reward of their hardwork. Please don't take it away from them. Not being able to sell those listed loots would have a huge impact on their zenny flow. I have seen hardworking players do instances faithfully and reaping these loots is what keeps their drive. Make these loots banned from selling to npcs and some of them will lose their motivation.




I just started make my own zeny on OGH and now... Bah, never mind, I'm always be a poor latin in this game anyway, where I need to spend 4x more real money to have the same itens then others rsrs
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#42 kinkthecat

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:13 PM

i never did investment so i have no clue why everyone is freaking out lol


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#43 Cristalion

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:14 PM

"contributing to recent inflation"? A Chronicle of a Death Foretold

wow you guys made my day lol...I invite gms do for example ogh to get some of those items and see how many BILLIONS of zeny they will get per day.

If you really "want to reduce the zeny inflation" spend time and track all zeny deals, mainly during the EU ban and there is your "zeny inflation".

With this you only will make regular player cant farm the enough zeny just for supplies andthe "inflation" will continue because thanst not the main reason...actually that is far away to be a reason for zeny inflation.

There's many other usefull way to regulate inflation like OCP remix...add items people are overpricing, carefully track every deal, woe event (with rasonable discounts), etc.

Edited by Cristalion, 08 August 2018 - 07:18 PM.

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#44 MoonJoo

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:17 PM

Why cant u trace acc selling dupe to npc like how u trace illegal zeny flows and banned acc here and there from involving in illegal zeny? Just asking

 

it's because they just can't track it. those dupes probably have their unique id code just like this in ragial


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:20 PM

 

  • The following items will no longer be sell-able to npcs for zeny. This is to turn off several zeny flows that have been generating too much zeny at this time and contributing to recent inflation.
    • Ora Ora
      Four-Leaf Clover
      2-Carat Diamond
      3-Carat Diamond
      Wedding Bouquet
      Crystal Mirror
      Witherless Rose
      Frozen Rose
      Baphomet Doll
      Osiris Doll
      Gold
      Anvil
      Oridecon Anvil
      Golden Anvil
      Emperium Anvil
      Darkred Scale Piece
      GM Max Bond
      Colorful Key
      Gold Coin Basket
      Colorful Brooch
      Old Crown
      Dark Lord's Soul Piece
      Tooth of Jitterbug
      Shard of Gigantes
      Blade of Darkness
      Lucifer's Lament
      Seed of Life
      Morning Dew of Yggdrasil
      Tuxedo
      Gold Bullion
      Silver Bullion
      Platinum Bullion
      Embryo Creation Guide
      Elemental Potion Creation Guide
      Treasure Box
      Valhalla Flower
      Pirate Treasure

 

thx to this newbie make less money now unless they buy new OCP and sell them for zeny. good job warpportal. #pay2winFTW


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:32 PM

Honestly if the hackers are doing dupes and its easy for them to do, they can still easily dupe items worth 10k or so, in multiple stashes. It still results in an approx 370M zenny per stack of 30K items sold to NPC using overcharge. Now imagine they had a few number of items that they can dupe each time, there will still be a huge amount of zeny flowing in. 

 

Basically you just made their job more tedious but the root problem isn't solved. If they can dupe- and it depends on how easily they do it, this won't solve the zenny flowing in, but only slows it down depending on how much effort the hacker's willing to put in. At the same time, legit players get affected quite badly by this move though.

 

If it is a short term measure while your team attempts to get the root of the problem and break the duping process, i completely support your move. However, please don't take too long, because its also a fight against player satisfaction while this is going on. In the end only the hacker wins if zenny becomes expensive, because he is more incentivized to dupe the cheap 10k items as i mentioned above, given that zenny becomes more valuable to players who lost a means to acquire them legitly while hackers basically still have their unlimited source (albeit at a lower tap rate).


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:51 PM

hope you guys dont mind Goat Horns and Hair cause i got like 50k of those stored safetly in case of zenypocalypse  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:


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#48 abdulrauf

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:09 PM

i just sell mine Gold silver got from Ogh for 1 month get around 200m did i on the list ban too?  :hmm:


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:02 PM

Theyll just dupe other things like BB or BMX. In the end, legit players suffer. Stoopid wp
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:09 PM

The following items will no longer be sell-able to npcs for zeny. This is to turn off several zeny flows that have been generating too much zeny at this time and contributing to recent inflation.

 

this is the most stupid -_- I seen in my many years playing Ragnarok....

work on the freaking Bots dont screw the server more then it is I was gonna post this on alt account but -_- it...
 


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