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#1 zx56vb

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:09 PM

I am leveling my ranger recently, and it is 170 now. Appreciate all those players party with me.

Recently I am doing Bio4 Bounty quest, but almost everyday, ppl asking me to show equipment before invite, and even some question like do you have samurai/mot card?

I cant understand this, is BIO4 quest still hard to run so it requires everyone to have high end gears?

I understand that class like RK is more popular in BIO4 because it is good, and when I play my RK, there is always instant invite from other bio4 party.

I still remember in the past (max lv 150) people even invite my solo class like GX/SC/Sura to bio4 party, and I can pull for them with flame armor and shield. I had very good memory about BIO4 party in the past,

now with powerful OCP items, bio4 quest should be easy, but why there are more and more "class discrimination"?


Edited by zx56vb, 12 August 2018 - 01:11 PM.

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#2 zx56vb

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:10 PM

Or maybe I am just unlucky recently?


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:41 PM

That's how humans are. They feel empowered when they're being surrounded by strong people. Strong people together with strong people = stronger party. Get strongest classes together = strongest party. I remember when I was leveling my RG long time ago. Took me forever to get a party and I was a good killer. The problem was, my sprite was RG. Until I stopped and tried to solo and it was still hard for me. Until I started using Aco's services and got to level 175.

 

For now, I'd just recommend doing NCT until 170 then solo Bio4 to level 175. It might be hard to solo but it's much better than dealing with some people's demands. Cant really blame them though. Like it or not, not every class is equally strong no matter how hard we try to believe all classes are equally useful, because they're absolutely not. Being different =/= Being useful.


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#4 zx56vb

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:50 PM

That's how humans are. They feel empowered when they're being surrounded by strong people. Strong people together with strong people = stronger party. Get strongest classes together = strongest party. I remember when I was leveling my RG long time ago. Took me forever to get a party and I was a good killer. The problem was, my sprite was RG. Until I stopped and tried to solo and it was still hard for me. Until I started using Aco's services and got to level 175.

 

For now, I'd just recommend doing NCT until 170 then solo Bio4 to level 175. It might be hard to solo but it's much better than dealing with some people's demands. Cant really blame them though. Like it or not, not every class is equally strong no matter how hard we try to believe all classes are equally useful, because they're absolutely not. Being different =/= Being useful.

Yea I know I can solo but I still prefer play with other ppl, solo makes me feel lonely :p_sick:


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 12:58 PM

I am leveling my ranger recently, and it is 170 now. Appreciate all those players party with me.

Recently I am doing Bio4 Bounty quest, but almost everyday, ppl asking me to show equipment before invite, and even some question like do you have samurai/mot card?

I cant understand this, is BIO4 quest still hard to run so it requires everyone to have high end gears?

I understand that class like RK is more popular in BIO4 because it is good, and when I play my RK, there is always instant invite from other bio4 party.

I still remember in the part (max lv 150) people even invite my solo class like GX/SC/Sura to bio4 party, and I can pull for them with flame armor and shield. I had very good memory about BIO4 party in the past,

now with powerful OCP items, bio4 quest should be easy, but why there are more and more "class discrimination"?

Humans are greedy. That's how it is this world now & E-World. Cheer up buddy you will find friends whom you can always party with for BB/Gramps/Instances. Keep hoping till you are comfortable with that group. :no1:


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 01:15 PM

Humans are greedy. That's how it is this world now & E-World. Cheer up buddy you will find friends whom you can always party with for BB/Gramps/Instances. Keep hoping till you are comfortable with that group. :no1:

 

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 01:49 PM

See

I told u, this is an issues with player mentality today, we're already finish Bio4 run under 30 min without God/MvP long before OCP era without problem and today even with outrageously overpowered box, ppl still cherry pick their party member, like seriously

 

there is ppl who only accept 100k HP RK, only accept Faw RK, this and that while bring party full of nothing but alts, there basically lot of ******** that only accept High geared ppl in bio4

 

last time I do bio4 it was with my ranger, I use Elven + 9 to be exact, it's working, yet there is lot of party that really unhappy about it even bashing me

 

 

Now all we need is a dragon spear and red baby hat, and see lot of party cherry pick, non spear rk and non baby red RK do not accepted while bring party with 10 alt


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:08 PM

Usually ww set + elven(with converters) is the minimum for people like these, which shouldnt be too hard too get. But yeah, it annoys me everytime someone demands to see my gears just to get an invite.
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Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:25 PM

*Sits criss cross apple sauce* I've been waiting for someone like you to come to post here because I too suffer the discrimination of being a ranger looking for bio 4 parties, we are one in the same  :sob: . I kinda agree with some of the statements above saying some classes are more over looked than others but now there's also a level discrimination as well on some classes but all in all bio 4 is a dumpster dive.

 

P.S You are not unlucky the discrimination is REAL!


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:41 PM

It is real coz during the days when newbies leveling at low-mid ti, these rangers are being ignorant especially when ks-ing with newbies. Now they gettin discriminated in bio4 lmao.
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Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:57 PM

For me, gear and class don't really matter. Ppl who don't do their job is what's really bad in pts. PPl who leave pt midway without a word, afk for a long time, genes don't give FCP and such


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 03:46 PM

It is real coz during the days when newbies leveling at low-mid ti, these rangers are being ignorant especially when ks-ing with newbies. Now they gettin discriminated in bio4 lmao.

Well I don't ks.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 03:52 PM

well this cant helped...when   u changed self to recuit ppl...u will think to get better player to make it 30minute run...will u random recuit ppl?n make party fail or even slower to much?


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 04:10 PM

we've all been in that situation, newbie at bio4, with noob gears, want to level up and finish it as fast as we can. We still learning.
don't be childish when your equip gods and flawless already

So find your guildmates to make it easy :)

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 04:41 PM

Honestly, I am one of the people who ask to see gears before inviting anyone to my party I will even ask a Maestro to show their gear. But this is precaution I take because I have dealt with way too many under-geared people who have made my party experience worse. This is all down to the reason that people who are better geared are usually better players in general. 

Though I have seen enough people who have more MVPs than they have brain cells too. So nowadays all my party invites go primarily to friends or people who I know are good at their job, fancy gear or not. 

 

 

As for your problem, I suggest you this :

Try to sell yourself as being good at what you do. Most parties will give you the benefit of the doubt and will let you join espcially if you ask them early on in the recruiting stage. 

 

And once people know you

If you are good (with damage and pulling your weight), people will ask for you to join their party.

If you aren't good enough, try making more friends who will invite you to their party or can vouch for you
 
This has almost always worked for me. I have talked my way into to the party, Getting invited on classes which no one would invite, like sura's or shadow chasers or Warlocks before they got this OCP -_-. 
 
 

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 05:19 PM

I mean not everyone is rich from the start ? they have to start off somewhere else first ...

Yes people might have noob gear , but that still doesnt mean he/she do bad in game ? 

 

Even if they didnt do bad in game ? Pt leader still need a solid player to get the job done 

In the end , they will be cast out ... if there a better gear player who are looking for pt ... 

 

Is easy to note or list down the trolls .... (at least try give those newcomer a chance)

This is the main reason why i didnt even bother about bio pt... (too much drama to begin with)

Well i cant blame others who wanted to finish the job quickly , and do daily etc ......... 

Srsly Is a shame for those lone wolf out there , (is mostly thx to those trolls that we have a hard time)

 

 

 


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 05:31 PM

now i am convinced that history repeats itself. now we are coming back to:

 

Bio4 is not for everyone

Only the qualified ones are allowed

 

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 05:33 PM

There has always been people that count on gears specially on a ranger. Well pretty lame to be honest...


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:22 PM

knowing how well geared the party members are also influences the decision of recruiting or not more of a specific type of dps :T


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:25 PM

There is a thriving bio4 leveling community discord which you should check out to find like minded folks to party with
https://discord.gg/azqYYqr

 

We also have a library with resources and tips to better help you as well. Here's a general tip which we've created as a community: 

 
"General Tips Goal: 
 
<30 Minutes Bio4 Run
 
1. Get the Bounty Board
 
2. DO NOT POP BM until instructed by Party Leader 
 
3. DO NOT TI CELIA unless <30 mins run is impossible and it is better to TI before BM ends - Party Leader will decide this
 
4. DO NOT LEAVE the party until ALL counts are finished unless Party Leader decides to due to some circumstance
 
5. Save in Lighthalzen - easier to organize in case of massive D/C 
 
6. Token of Siegfried - saves on time 
 
7. Armor - Unfrozen Aebecee or Lucius (for 'squishy' classes); Glorious Suit (RKs); HP/SP armors; +9 Kardui Robe + Angeling Card (if you can afford it) 
 
8. Fly Wing (when snatched) + Butterfly Wing (tele to town) 
 
9. Use common sense in bringing supplies (i.e. hp/sp pots, thunder & fireproof, converters, cursed waters, etc.) 
 
10. STAY ALIVE 
 
DISCLAIMER: This particular guide is a basic run down of skills that a class can do for an efficient bio4 party and was created for the convenience of players who are new to the bio4 scene. It does not, in any way, dictate how a class should be played in it's entirety as personal/party preference and composition may alter the dynamics of the run."
 
 
Personally, I've led and been apart of successful <30 min parties in the past where no MVPs/Gods were used and only OCP's were around. Bio4 should NOT be gated by the exclusively geared people. When I did lead parties, the minimum gear requirement was an unfrozen wind armor for non-RK classes, and for your case an unfrozen white wing suit for rangers.
OCP has definitely opened up more possibilities and beefed up the community with awesome gear which is why I predict that people will soon be running the paid bio4 set-up. 
 
5 Important classes
1 RK
1 AB
1 Sorc
1 Gene+Gwinger (same role)
1 Stringer
+7 alts (or paid to afk)
= 12 member party
 
Although I've been on hiatus, you can still reach me on discord for more personal advice on leading or joining parties, or even use the resources we provide via the discord #library.

Cheers mate

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:27 PM

knowing how well geared the party members are also influences the decision of recruiting or not more of a specific type of dps :T

 

YEAH!

 

I once recruited 7 ABs since I only needed 1 gene and 1 RK to do bio4. Why bring 7 ABs? cause I wanted to :D


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 01:12 AM

For me, gear and class don't really matter. Ppl who don't do their job is what's really bad in pts. PPl who leave pt midway without a word, afk for a long time, genes don't give FCP and such

 

Genes who don't give FCP... sounds like me...... sometimes. But but.....  I say it beforehand!!  :heh:

 

YEAH!

 

I once recruited 7 ABs since I only needed 1 gene and 1 RK to do bio4. Why bring 7 ABs? cause I wanted to :D

 

I miss the days where we pay you to do bio4 for us... I just need to not die and afk.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 03:01 AM

Can we suggest to increase party size to 15 or even 20 people? This way we would give less concern to low-dps/survivability member. More people = more dps?

Well it may sound like a dream to ask this to kRO but at least somebody need to speak up :P
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:02 AM

knowing how well geared the party members are also influences the decision of recruiting or not more of a specific type of dps :T

 

Pretty true. Eden gears for the win. :D

 

YEAH!

 

I once recruited 7 ABs since I only needed 1 gene and 1 RK to do bio4. Why bring 7 ABs? cause I wanted to :D

 

You could pretty much invite 9 SN's to your party knowing how efficient your party was!


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:14 AM

Actually 1 AB 1 RK 1 Gene can finish easily if RK is god geared. If not then one more string. At the most RK not god tier then just 2 RK total. That’s just 5 member, the other 7 can be anything and it will all work out.

Those that are being picky are just dicks
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