New Poisons
#1
Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:05 AM
#2
Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:13 AM
Cross impact doesn't come close to what EDP linked SB was prerenewal, and is very survivavable. Poisons and antidote is the main point of the Gx... if you don't want to suffer from it, either get a bishop with clearance, a Gx with antidote, or die. Gx doesn't need debbufs...
Edited by Kadnya, 21 February 2011 - 09:15 AM.
#3
Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:15 AM
#4
Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:16 AM
#5
Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:18 AM
Edited by Ultimate, 21 February 2011 - 09:18 AM.
#6
Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:22 AM
But indeed, it would be nice to see the poisons dissapear after login. I don't see any problem with that change: Even if there are methods to recover from the poisons, if you are alone and don't want to pot; relogging would teleport you to your save point, so the Gx is happy from taking you out of the battle, and you are happy from keeping your kafrashop buffs; all without having to debuff the Gx class.
Edited by Kadnya, 21 February 2011 - 09:56 AM.
#7
Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:45 AM
#8
Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:02 AM
#9
Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:12 AM
If you are in Valk you can PM X-Zero to Antidote you for 100k z ea.
Edited by iCare, 21 February 2011 - 10:13 AM.
#10
Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:25 AM
One of the worst classes leveling wise, but definitely not one of the worst classes in WoE.
#11
Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:35 AM
#12
Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:50 AM
I'm talking exactly about the position lag! And what if you've got a bunch of foods running - the GX doesn't usually kill you, but the damn poisons could cost you a ton if you're running around in woe with kafra shop food items going and other stat foods.
Either way, someone is bound to kill at one on woe, so if you sue kafra food you now the price and risk... really nerfing poisons? stop crying people... ¬¬ we kill over time, worry about the ones who kill on one shot...
@X-Zero
you should charge higher... XD
#13
Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:15 AM
#14
Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:30 AM
#15
Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:31 AM
honestly? leech end? someone complaining about leech end? LMAOOOOOOOOO. very sad. ppl do realize leech end varies and reducable right? sorry but GMs won't be nerfing the poison no matter how hard noobs cry. make a thread about nerfing chasers, might have a better shot!
RO history proves that devs and Gms will do anything if enough people cry...sadly =s
#16
Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:31 AM
I'm not saying the damage should be nerfed. The main problem is the position lag as you try to move every tick of the LE. You seriously cannot move at all without having to take 3 min in order to get from one end of the room into the other...honestly? leech end? someone complaining about leech end? LMAOOOOOOOOO. very sad. ppl do realize leech end varies and reducable right? sorry but GMs won't be nerfing the poison no matter how hard noobs cry. make a thread about nerfing chasers, might have a better shot!
Also, Leech End should be made so it comes off if you relog.
Edited by GuardianTK, 21 February 2011 - 11:32 AM.
#17
Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:36 AM
#18
Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:54 AM
#19
Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:13 PM
#20
Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:17 PM
Its expensive to be a gX both leveling and PvP. We dont have OHKO skill/s. Our crits keep on being nerfed everytime. EDP is not that impressive like before. We dont have a ridiculous amount of HP. Too much hardship already so stop b!tchin about gXes.
COZ GXes ARE WORKING AS INTENDED..
Edited by iCare, 21 February 2011 - 12:18 PM.
#21
Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:31 PM
Our crits keep on being nerfed everytime. EDP is not that impressive like before.
wth are you talking about? crits are stronger than ever, even moreso with the hd + overupped kvm jur/jamads
these threads are pointless. rgs will say reflect isnt bad, gxs will defend their poisons, suras will say gate of hell can be reduced in a variety of ways, chasers will defend the use of manhole, etc
Edited by Andini, 21 February 2011 - 12:37 PM.
#22
Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:35 PM
As for the pos lag, its every 2 secs or so. Its not a big deal. If you want to talk about pos lag lets consider 190+ aspd rangers with Warg Bite/Warg Strike. You are not moving.
#23
Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:44 PM
Relogging to cancel a status effect is common practice. It's what people do when they get Divested in many cases. What makes GX poisons any different? Oh okay, I'll just carry a poison bottle to die and come back(Rather than relog, because it apparently doesn't cancel out when I do.) when I don't see a friendly GX who can Antidote me. Funny how every debuff cancels out, but GX poisons don't when I relog.Debuffing it by reloging is like killing GX at all. We need to farm Izidor like crazy for us to spam it all the time. Whats the point of wasting time on those ingredients if it will just work like MANHOLE on WoE?
Its expensive to be a gX both leveling and PvP. We dont have OHKO skill/s. Our crits keep on being nerfed everytime. EDP is not that impressive like before. We dont have a ridiculous amount of HP. Too much hardship already so stop b!tchin about gXes.
COZ GXes ARE WORKING AS INTENDED..
Why do people complain about Manhole when White Imprison is so much better? You can divest/debuff people in White Imprison as well as kill them while they're in it without relying on an elaborate setup. People in it also can't pot. At least in Manhole you can pot and can't be targetted by the majority of debuffs. The only reason you don't see Warlocks use them more often is because there aren't many higher leveled ones on Valk who abuse it enough for you to complain about it compared to Manhole.
Also, I'd have to disagree with the "don't have a ridiculous amount of HP" complaint. GX hp mod is on par with RG's if they would just get vit. It is very possible for GX's to get 100 of str/agi/vit with something else at 100. Even without hp mod equips you guys get 40k hp at level 150 with 100 total vit.
It's tough to level a GX, but in the end they are quite balanced as they are compared to other classes. I don't see why people say they suck when they haven't seen many higher leveled GX with proper stat builds yet.
*I'm not trying to defend my class, because I've advocated as well to have it so Manhole can't perpetually trap one person in place indefinitely by wanting to have them unstackable on each other*
Edited by GuardianTK, 21 February 2011 - 12:48 PM.
#24
Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:45 PM
#25
Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:05 PM
Why do people complain about Manhole when White Imprison is so much better? You can divest/debuff people in White Imprison as well as kill them while they're in it without relying on an elaborate setup. People in it also can't pot. At least in Manhole you can pot and can't be targetted by the majority of debuffs. The only reason you don't see Warlocks use them more often is because there aren't many higher leveled ones on Valk who abuse it enough for you to complain about it compared to Manhole.
White imprision can be stat recovered, I think. You can't keep 3. You have to be spamming white impri hotkey for it to be a parmanent lock, with manhole, you can much easily keep a permanent lock, even if the previous manhole hasn't haven't ended. As much as white impri is bad, manhole is still worse.
Also, white impri has a cooler white box effect, while manhole just hides haf your body >>
Edited by Kadnya, 21 February 2011 - 01:07 PM.
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