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[Nymmastal]

Okay I get it. Too soon.

[Oda]

What I'm saying is this should probably be basically frontierland with more monsters.

Frontierland

[GuardianTK]

White Black House for a capital please.

[Nymmastal]

The cowboy theme would be pretty cool. And I have to admit, if gunslingers looked less like Neo and more like Roland I might play one.

[Kiryu]

Well, first thing reading about it and thinking about cowboys and aliens since those two are the most know stereotypes follow by vegas, and open roads.


also for somereason I can see a quest similar to this XD, between a boy and am alien

Warning: swearing at the end




and can totally see a game room full of aliens and the ladies using bunny ears o.o and people acting like normal

Edited by Kiryu, 02 September 2011 - 01:49 PM.

[Exeter0]

I never got why Gunslingers weren't allowed to equip Knives.

But anyway... if you're giving them Gunblades, then Shield Pistols should be in the game as well:

Edited by Exeter0, 02 September 2011 - 03:09 PM.

[Oda]

Shpistols

knifeguns

gunhats


Make it happen, gravity.

[morphine]

gunhats

I felt the need to Google Image search...




........ It is not kawaii.

[Scuba]

ITT Einbroch 2.0

[Iseal]

On the topic of Gunslingers, what about the Rifles? Improved Bullseye would be interesting to mess around with. Why not minigames for Gunslingers only in the map? Different ones for different weapons?

[CheddarJack]

How about how other countries picture us (all the way at the bottom of the comic):

http://theoatmeal.co...or_differences4

*NOTE* This comic is not for those younger players on RO, read at own risk**

Edited by CheddarJack, 02 September 2011 - 04:53 PM.

[Myzery]

How about how other countries picture us (all the way at the bottom of the comic):

http://theoatmeal.co...or_differences4

*NOTE* This comic is not for those younger players on RO, read at own risk**

Pretty entertaining =)

[Charon]

http://en.wikipedia....bird_(mythology)

Zapdos for MVP.

Otherwise it may turn out to be a huge burger or a pile of garbage? x___x

[Oda]

Western style...definitive yes!!


I'll cry if there are no jackalopes.
A sasquatch MVP is also needed.

All of these need to be in the update (from a mythical creature wiki):

The Fearsome Critters were a group of bizarre and absurd animals thought up by lumberjack societies in America in the 19th-century. They served as explanations for weird noises or happenings and everyday annoyances.
Such would include, but not be limited to:-
Axehandle Hound - A dog with a head shaped like an axe head. It was said to eat axe handles that were left unattended.
Cactus Cat - A feline with hairlike thorns that consumed the juice of the cactus, allowing it to become intoxicated and make weird noises at night.
Jackalope - A hare with the antlers of a deer. It was said to mimic voices at night.
Sidehill Gouger - A creature with a similar concept to the Wild Haggis and the Dahu. Either its left legs or its right legs are longer than the other pair allowing it to run around the side of hills with ease, but not go up or down them.
Squonk - A creature covering in warts, blemishes and the like. It believes itself to be so unbearably ugly that it will not allow itself to be seen. If one is captured it will cry itself into tears and wash away.

[Kagrra]

The whole cowboy thing was really only out west, it never really applied to the east, so it doesn't seem as American to me as something that defines the whole country. I find the Statue of Liberty and the White House to be really American things.

I'd really like to see a town with a lot of the fun historical landmarks we have that helped mark our independence, like the White House, Statue of Liberty, the Liberty Bell. The Alamo would also be good to see, since it's important to how we gained Texas.
I could picture it more like an amusement park town, with different sectors, like a Western Sector, with all of the cowboy stuff, an Eastern sector with skyscrapers, colonial monuments, and government buildings, a Southern sector, with some swamp/forest looking areas and houses with big front porches with rocking chairs and fans, and a Northern sector, with a few large buildings, farms, and log houses. Or something like that. Our country's so diverse in areas, even between states, so we should reflect that in our town map. :> We could even have NPC with different regional accents!
And we have such a colorful past for being a relatively young country. We were once isolated from the European countries, after we gained our independence and only invested our affairs in the Western Hemisphere. Then we slowly ended up getting into the affairs of those countries and became the power house we are today.
But I do find our greatest era to be around the time of Theodore Roosevelt, when we were no country to be messed with, yet still out of the affairs of the European countries, for the most part.

[Kiryu]

Actually if we were to a properly U.S.A map, we will need to be a country as big as Schwaltz


since to start we have diferent time zones, diferent terrains... O_o and I don't think they wanna do that much work, but I'm pretty sure fans will even make maps just to do places, and each place can be work it... also the good news thanks to Ford and Harley-Davidson we have a big excuse to have a motorcicle B)for gunslingers

Edited by Kiryu, 02 September 2011 - 10:59 PM.

[GuardianTK]

The whole cowboy thing was really only out west, it never really applied to the east, so it doesn't seem as American to me as something that defines the whole country. I find the Statue of Liberty and the White House to be really American things.

I'd really like to see a town with a lot of the fun historical landmarks we have that helped mark our independence, like the White House, Statue of Liberty, the Liberty Bell. The Alamo would also be good to see, since it's important to how we gained Texas.
I could picture it more like an amusement park town, with different sectors, like a Western Sector, with all of the cowboy stuff, an Eastern sector with skyscrapers, colonial monuments, and government buildings, a Southern sector, with some swamp/forest looking areas and houses with big front porches with rocking chairs and fans, and a Northern sector, with a few large buildings, farms, and log houses. Or something like that. Our country's so diverse in areas, even between states, so we should reflect that in our town map. :> We could even have NPC with different regional accents!
And we have such a colorful past for being a relatively young country. We were once isolated from the European countries, after we gained our independence and only invested our affairs in the Western Hemisphere. Then we slowly ended up getting into the affairs of those countries and became the power house we are today.
But I do find our greatest era to be around the time of Theodore Roosevelt, when we were no country to be messed with, yet still out of the affairs of the European countries, for the most part.

I like this suggestion.

[Nymmastal]

The whole cowboy thing was really only out west, it never really applied to the east, so it doesn't seem as American to me as something that defines the whole country. I find the Statue of Liberty and the White House to be really American things.

The whole cowboy thing began in the east, in florida.

[Mwrip]

IMO, the best approach is to focus on making something that's fun to play and fits RO's world, and is only *very* loosely historically based. Amatsu is liked because of its anime-style ninjas. Sure, ninjas do have a real role in Japanese history, but well... not like that.

US history doesn't go very far back compared to an Asian or European nation. Our country had guns from day 1, and guns and machinery in RO are mostly a steampunk and/or technomancy sort of thing. Why not play to that? Imagine what someone like Ben Franklin - or even better, Nikola Tesla, would do in a world with steampunk tech and RPG magic? The Gunslinger 2nd job would easily fit into that, as would all sorts of gear and interesting quests.

The Native Americans can also definitely play a major role, particularly on the magical side of things. (Remember, this is an alternate world where they have RPG magic - they wouldn't have been pushed out.)

The monsters are harder, since most of our folklore is inherited from other cultures and not really uniquely American. There's 3 I can think of though:
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Devil
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
There's of course also plenty of "guys with guns" options, as well as plenty of regular wildlife - grizzlies, mountain lions, etc.
For the sillier ones, I'm thinking prairie dogs with land mines... with this for an idle pose (or maybe even a cast animation) of course:
Beavers making dams with turrets on them could also work. It wouldn't even be hard to code, just slap a FAW on there.

The Alamo would actually make a great instance. You're in the fort, it's being attacked by a mixture of soldiers and monsters, survive for X minutes without the inner section of the fort being breached to win. There could even be multiple side objectives - kill an enemy general to slow the spawns and get a bonus reward, make contact with a local tribe to get a Thunderbird strike called in (http://en.wikipedia....ird_(mythology)) etc.

The Old West town people keep mentioning could work as a town, a normal dungeon, or an instance depending on how it's designed.

I think the town is actually the hardest part of this, because I really can't think of anything that would represent our whole melting pot culture with a single town. Then again, that too could be played to - go out of the way to make the town NOT be uniform in design.

On a side note, there's an MMO called Atlantica that takes place in basically a fantasy version of Earth. When they added North America, they made Detroit a dungeon instead of a town. It's one of those things everyone O.o's at, thinks about for a second, then says "yeah, actually... that's pretty damn accurate." I don't suggest going for this though, as the joke's already been made. (Note: Don't bother looking that game up. It *was* good, and then they massively cash whored it to the point of making it unplayable if you aren't willing to drop hundreds on it.)

[NoxiousOrchid]

Here are more creatures that could be possibly used. I don't know how accurate the images are to some of them.

Baykok

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A night spirit of North America, from the folklore of the Chippewa nation (A group who lived by the Great Lakes).
A Baykok is basically a walking skeleton but with a thin translucent skin and fearsome red eyes glowing from the sockets in its skull.
It preys only on warriors and kills either with its club or invisible arrows.

Chenoo

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Chenoo are stone giants from Iroquois tribes folklore (North America).
The giants are said to fight amongst themselves with uprooted trees and large boulders, never knives, arrows, or spears. They are scared of humans and will camouflage themselves with such total immobility that they blend into the surrounding landscape.
There have been tales where shamans have forced such creatures to obey them.

N-dam-keno-wet

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A creature from the North American Abenaki tribe folklore. It is important to note that it is not a merbeing but rather a mixture of body parts both fish and man, though there is usually a tendency for the face to be that of a small human's. However little else is known about this creature except that of its favourite past time - molesting women in the baths.

Skinwalker

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A Skinwalker (also known as shape shifter) is a person who is able to transform themselves into any animals in some beliefs and only one particular animal in others.The term "Skinwalker" originate in native american legends though there are plenty of other cultures that have there own version of shape shifters. Skinwalkers differ from werewolves because shape shifters have the ability to control where and when they transform.It has been known that if you look a skinwalker in the eye you will die. Skinwalkers are evil creatures,usually taking revenge on a certain person or family.

In some Native American legends, a skin-walker is a person with the supernatural ability to turn into any animal he or she desires, though they first must be wearing a pelt of the animal, to be able to transform. Similar lore can be found in cultures throughout the world and is often referred to as shapeshifting by anthropologists.

Windigo

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The Wendigo is a mythical creature appearing in the mythology of the Algonquian people. It is a malevolent cannibalistic spirit which can transform into humans, or which could possess humans. Those who indulged in cannibalism were at particular risk, and the legend appears to have reinforced this practice as a taboo.

Yenrish

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A creature that has been described as a water-lion that lived in the depths of Lake Erie. This being comes from the accounts of the Huron-Wyandot Native Americans.

[Kagrra]

The whole cowboy thing began in the east, in florida.

True, but Florida isn't like the rest of the east, historically, so I don't really count it.

[CheddarJack]

I say we make it like the country its self. Each section of it is different. So NE would be more Tristate Area looking (big buildings and what not), SE would be more beachish/disneyworldish (maybe an amusment park next to a beach), Central would be western stuff (all the cowboy stuff everyone has stated), West would be more California/Vagas stuff (casinos, beaches, "movies"/actors (like the one person from crow of destiny quest))

[Tirasu]

Considering how badly heavily sterotypical and incredibly old-fashioned all the other Real-world theme updates are, A wild-west one would actually be what you HOPE for. It actually sounds cool and I hope they do something like that and tie in the gunslinger 2nd job change (as they did ninja with amatsu) because that would be epic. Rename second class gunslinger to Sheriff ontop of that and you have me sold on making one.

But then, just as likely (or more likely considering how terrible the other ones are) to end up disappointed with some umbala-like native american island instead. Anything too modern would look so out of place that you have a snowballs chance in hell of any skyscrapers.

Edited by Tirasu, 03 September 2011 - 06:27 PM.

[NoxiousOrchid]

I say we make it like the country its self. Each section of it is different. So NE would be more Tristate Area looking (big buildings and what not), SE would be more beachish/disneyworldish (maybe an amusment park next to a beach), Central would be western stuff (all the cowboy stuff everyone has stated), West would be more California/Vagas stuff (casinos, beaches, "movies"/actors (like the one person from crow of destiny quest))

This would be neat, but maybe split the West to north and south since they are very different as well.

[Beyond]

I wouldn't mind a cowboy style gunslinger expanded if they used a style similar to Yusuke Iseya's Yo-_-sune from Sukiyaki Western Django

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