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[Joaco]

You can wear elemental orleans' gowns if you're worried about cast / don't have sacrifice

Ceruleangamer posted her findings above about mjolnir. Unless she wanted to lend me Mjolnir I can't test.

Or maybe Orleans' Gowns of Wild Cat for more damage, right?
I searched for the findings but didn't find a thing, there are tests but not between Mjolnir and +12 Tripple Kingbird Red Twin Edge.

[Kadelia]

I use a +3 INT orleans of wildcat in some situations where I don't need elemental armor. Its good for cart cannon leveling too.

@baku: obviously I meant archbishops in response to kiefer.

Just tried MvPing with Mjolnir and was doing 30-40k more acid bomb damage than +11 Triple kingbird red sword (220k vs 180k) so I assume it's the best Acid bomb weapon out there. Pyroclastic from a Dieter really helps in the bomb damage too which increases it by about 10k more.

[Sirial]

HI people, i am a new in renewal but i have a question, in the acid bomb what is the most importan the atk or matk? I confuce, and i thing in use the hurricane fury for mvp with the zippe bear,but the archer skeleton is the better for mvping? tnk for the help

Edited by Sirial, 15 July 2012 - 08:51 AM.

[Kadelia]

facepalm... this has been answered several time sin this forum and even in this thread I am sure... did you even look?

ATK and MATK are equally relevant but since ATK is increased further by STR I'd say you're better off going for high ATK weapons than MATK ones. Archer skel increases your status and weapon attacks each by 10%, which easily amounts to over 80+ atk more. More than twice as good as zipper bear and works on all enemies. There is no point of using zipper bear, period.

[wooliemoolie]

is atk/matk % modifer usefull for AB? or stat plus like BDM more usefull?

[Kadelia]

Elaborate your question. With an example if possible.

Black Devil Mask is useful, if for nothing else, the 2 vit/int.

[rattlexnake]

Anyone tried Vellum Guillotine yet?? Especially +9 one.... I think Glorious Morning Star still no.1 for PvP/WoE....

[wooliemoolie]

Elaborate your question. With an example if possible.

Black Devil Mask is useful, if for nothing else, the 2 vit/int.

ehm, maybe like master hat (ranged atk +10%) with atk,matk +5% (new headgear in my server) and BDM with robo eye

[Kadelia]

I've never heard of master hat, but +10% ranged damage on a hat would add a noteable amount to acid bomb and cart cannon. The +5% atk/matk would add a minor amount to the acid bomb. Robo eye sucks, use BDM.

[Trevoir]

What's a low budget yet still relatively effective weapon to use? would a double kingbird carga be an okay weapon?

[Kadelia]

If I had to rate them for their use in PVP/WoE/Demi Human MVP:

Kingbird Giant Axe : 5/10
Hurriccane Fury: 6/10
Double Kingbird Carga: 7/10
Elemental Sword: 8/10
Triple Kingbird Twin Edge of Nacht Sieger:9/10
Glorious Morningstar: 11/10
Mjolnir: 11/10

Edited by Jaye, 18 August 2012 - 01:50 PM.

[Trevoir]

What about just general PVM and leveling?

[Kadelia]

Exact same list except you take out the glorious morningstar on non-demi humans. derp.

Its not a list of how much damage they do btw. Hurricane fury does more damage than most of those but sucks arse because you get no shield, so I rated it lower.

Edited by Jaye, 19 August 2012 - 05:53 AM.

[HayrohsLegacy]

Is Chibi Hat [1] good too for AB dmg since it gives MATK 12% @ +12?

That Moon Rabbit Hat [1] too ATK/MATK increase according to level good?

Edited by HayrohsLegacy, 19 August 2012 - 04:44 PM.

[Kadelia]

Evil Marching hat is going to be the best damage headgear atm period

[HayrohsLegacy]

I tested borrowing a friend's +9 Chibi [1] and almost dealt same dmg w/my +9 Maestro EMH, prolly it'll be more dmg if it was a +12 Maestro Chibi coz of additional 5% MATK and bonus from card.

Edited by HayrohsLegacy, 19 August 2012 - 07:30 PM.

[Kadelia]

Depends on your str, int, weapon.. etc

Evil marching pretty much the best. it works on both AB and CC

Edited by Jaye, 19 August 2012 - 08:44 PM.

[MiNyuu]

Pure MVP Genetic
STR: 120+ AGI: 1 VIT: 100 INT: 100+ DEX: 80+ LUK: 1+

120 str ?? 100-110 str is not enough ? (stat points are very precious...)

[kiefer]

120 base str for meg bonus lol. You can even lower your dex to 50 because dex does not help acid bomb dps that much.

[Kadelia]

If you're pure mvp gene and have a meg, the 120 str isn't a bad idea at all

[MiNyuu]

On fRO, there aren't many meg... I don't have a godly item.

[Raghu]

Does AK card on weapon affect Acid Bomb damage?
Does Race / AS card affect bomb damage?

Edited by Raghu, 17 September 2012 - 03:22 AM.

[Kadelia]

Does AK card on weapon affect Acid Bomb damage?
Does Race / AS card affect bomb damage?

Yes to all of your questions.

[celestience]

for woe, which skills should i add first? howling->thorn wall>hell plant>crazy vines?

i read earlier than CK is good for thorn wall, is it good for hell plant and crazy vines as well? but 3x kingbird naught for AB right? (besides kvm mace)

[Kadelia]

You'll do more damage per hit o0n thorn wall with a CK than with a +12 Glorious Morningstar. It's because thorn wall damage is low after WoE reduct so enemy VIT defense reduces it a lot (to like 50 damage), but CK makes sure you do a flat amount that is still in the 100-200 damage range.

On the other hand, Crazy vines does about half as much damage with a Combat Knife than with a +12 Glorious Morningstar. The main purpose of crazy vines is to clear ground enchantment AoE skills thoguh, not to do damage.

Hell Plant's damage is unaffected by weapon ATK and +% cards.

Acid bomb is fueled by any +% gear (racial or ranged) so the best for it is +12 Glorious Morningstar, next best being +12 Triple Kingbird Twin Edge of Nacht Sieger. Acid bomb, however, does really poor damage nowadays due to the higher collective DEF of the WoE sets and the 20-35% ranged reduction most people get with the WoE sets. The only way you will kill anyone anymore is hell plant.